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StLee -> Questions and bug report (3/25/2008 6:50:42 PM)

I know I have been away, and believe me when I say that I missed having Maximum-Football. With that said, I took my first glimpse of Version 2 just today (getting the 2.2 version before I even started up the game since I last played last August). Here is my question, a perplexing one. Since I bought a laptop with 1 GB of memory, running Vista, I never attempted to play the game, listening closely to the warnings that version 2 REQUIRED at least 2 GB of memory. My question is: why is the game working for me? I was planning to upgrade my memory this coming weekend, but I fired up the game, created a small experimental league, and setup a computer played game. Everything worked smoothly, perhaps even more smoothly than my 3 GB XP desktop back home worked. Should I expect to have troubles playing the game? As another aside, I left programs running when I started the game. Still no problems.

Also, since I took a little time to run a computer-played game (for a quarter), I caught perhaps one of the first bugs of the game. Using American rules with every rule set to standard (no customization of the American rules set except I upped the play clock to 40 seconds), one team kicked a FG, an obvious made field goal. Instead of giving that team credit for the field goal and then kicking off, the other team got the ball at their own 30 with the clock running. Just wanted to report it.

BTW, I'm glad to be back on board! See you more!



David Winter -> RE: Questions and bug report (3/25/2008 7:22:08 PM)

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Instead of giving that team credit for the field goal and then kicking off, the other team got the ball at their own 30 with the clock running.


Did the team get the points?



StLee -> RE: Questions and bug report (3/25/2008 7:26:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: David Winter

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Instead of giving that team credit for the field goal and then kicking off, the other team got the ball at their own 30 with the clock running.


Did the team get the points?

No, no points were rewarded. The other team got the ball at the 30 and the game clock was running.



David Winter -> RE: Questions and bug report (3/25/2008 7:30:27 PM)

If no points were awarded I'd have to think that the field goal was either wide or short and the ball was kicked from the 30.

If you can send me both the debug log and the game log for the game that occured in, I'll be able to see what happened in the game.

thanks
David



StLee -> RE: Questions and bug report (3/25/2008 7:44:10 PM)

I quit the game shortly after that play, so I don't see a gamelog saved. Or am I looking in the wrong place? I do see the debug log. I'll e-mail it to you.



David Winter -> RE: Questions and bug report (3/25/2008 7:45:16 PM)

Thanks..

I noticed you're in Korea. What regional settings are you using? Do you get a regional settings dialog warning?



StLee -> RE: Questions and bug report (3/25/2008 7:52:13 PM)

I hope I sent to the right e-mail address: mfbinfo@wintervalley.com. It's the only I saw on the website.

I bought the laptop in America, so I don't think the regional settings matter. But, no, I didn't get a dialog warning. I am still curious to know why the game is running on Vista with only 1 MB of memory. Now I am mad at myself for not even trying to download the game onto my laptop before now.



StLee -> RE: Questions and bug report (3/25/2008 7:56:08 PM)

As I saw it, the game clock was running, which made me think there was a bug. The FG could have been short, but the curious thing was that the game clock was still running when the possession changed. I didn't see a dialog at the top stating FG made or missed either, though I wasn't necessarily looking for it. I'm not sure. I was just planning to watch a quarter and quit to see that the program would work or if it would lock up my computer. 



Marauders -> RE: Questions and bug report (3/25/2008 7:56:10 PM)

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Here is my question, a perplexing one. Since I bought a laptop with 1 GB of memory, running Vista, I never attempted to play the game, listening closely to the warnings that version 2 REQUIRED at least 2 GB of memory. My question is: why is the game working for me?


Vista is a memory hog. The 2GB system recommendation on the box assumes that other items are lacking and that one wants to kick up some of the graphics.

While some beta members test the game with a killer rig, I try to test the game on a machine that is closer to the minimum system requirements. In XP, that is 512MB RAM. In Vista, the recommendation is at 2GB to be safe, but it likely can be run on a less endowed machine.

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Using American rules with every rule set to standard (no customization of the American rules set except I upped the play clock to 40 seconds), one team kicked a FG, an obvious made field goal. Instead of giving that team credit for the field goal and then kicking off, the other team got the ball at their own 30 with the clock running. Just wanted to report it.


Because of the angle of view, sometimes a short field goal looks like to be good when it is not. Was the game clock running or just the 40 second clock? Was this using a US Pro field or US amateur field?



Marauders -> RE: Questions and bug report (3/25/2008 7:58:39 PM)

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As I saw it, the game clock was running, which made me think there was a bug. The FG could have been short, but the curious thing was that the game clock was still running when the possession changed. I didn't see a dialog at the top stating FG made or missed either, though I wasn't necessarily looking for it. I'm not sure. I was just planning to watch a quarter and quit to see that the program would work or if it would lock up my computer.


We'll take a look at this area.  Thank you for your report.



StLee -> RE: Questions and bug report (3/25/2008 7:58:40 PM)

About the field, as far as I know, it was a pro field. Hmmm. I would have to go back to check, but the hash marks were approximately even with the uprights, telling me it was probably a pro field. 



David Winter -> RE: Questions and bug report (3/25/2008 8:06:21 PM)

Lee.

I have the log you sent and it confirms you're running with the correct regional settings. This problem hasn't been reported before so it's something I'll keep an eye on.

As for your Vista question. I purposefully put the requirements for vista on the highside because at the moment the majority of PC's out there are running vista on mid/low-end computers. And as vista requires a lot more system resources than XP then I have to err on the side of caution and call for higher system specs. If someone has a really high power processor and a kick-@&& video card, then you may get away with less memory. I have a vista laptop here I do most of my vista testing on and it's not a very powerful computer. It works wonderfully on XP, but with vista it bogs down.

thanks
David



garysorrell -> RE: Questions and bug report (3/26/2008 1:52:08 AM)

Gamelogs are only printed out once a game is finished.



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