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Jh316 -> So, I'm trying the british long campaign. How to fight german armor? (4/1/2008 5:57:43 AM)

I know that historically they were at a disadvantage, but how do I fight their armor? I've found the 2-pounders are having difficulties even knocking out the half-tracks. They penetrate easily enough, but the tiny warhead does little damage.



FlashfyreSP -> RE: So, I'm trying the british long campaign. How to fight german armor? (4/1/2008 6:10:26 AM)

Flank or rear shots. Hold your 2pdr fire until you get under 20 hexes in range; the penetration at this point is fairly sufficient. Use masses of armour to defeat the smaller German panzer force. Once you get the 6pdr in 1942, you'll have better luck against the panzers.

Also, the no-kill penetrations on the halftracks is pretty realistic; most of the vehicle was "open space", and any round punching through the cargo area isn't going to hit anything vital (of the vehicle, that is). Only engine or suspension hits would "kill" the vehicle.



Jh316 -> RE: So, I'm trying the british long campaign. How to fight german armor? (4/1/2008 6:20:07 AM)

That was fast. Thanks.



Jh316 -> RE: So, I'm trying the british long campaign. How to fight german armor? (4/1/2008 9:45:09 AM)

Er...

This isn't related to the topic at hand exactly, but I don't want to make clutter with a new thread.

So I'm playing the british long campaign, and I notice that the northover projector of the home guard is equipped with the northover as can be expected, but also with an 8 inch howitzer which I imagine isn't right. I'm using 8.403 and the 2008 DVRN.



FlashfyreSP -> RE: So, I'm trying the british long campaign. How to fight german armor? (4/1/2008 3:26:05 PM)

No, it isn't right...seems we missed changiung that secondary weapon from the old pistol (#114) to the new one, and the game "fills in" the missing weapon with a random one.



PimpYourAFV -> RE: So, I'm trying the british long campaign. How to fight german armor? (4/2/2008 11:53:40 AM)

Historically, when they had the light Honey tanks, they drove up and past the German tanks using speed to avoid getting hit and to close in for a better chance of their little guns working.  Once the Lees, Crusaders and the rest of the medium tanks were online, they began by waiting for the Germans to wander into their nasty 6-pounder AT guns, and then overwhelmed the poor Germans with masses of tanks.



Five_of_Swords -> RE: So, I'm trying the british long campaign. How to fight german armor? (11/25/2008 12:57:17 PM)

when im fighting the brits as germans, my tanks get torn to shreds by the bofors AA gun. Infantry also. And its hard to spot. Those guns are a serious headache.
Its actually at the point that ive considered using aircraft to counter anti aircraft guns.



Kuokkanen -> RE: So, I'm trying the british long campaign. How to fight german armor? (11/25/2008 7:55:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Five_of_Swords

when im fighting the brits as germans, my tanks get torn to shreds by the bofors AA gun. Infantry also. And its hard to spot. Those guns are a serious headache.

40 mm Bofors? Even 37 mm "doorknocker" was serious ATG in '39-'40, and 40+ mm will get the job done. Later 75 mm ATGs get the job done (german 75 mm is better than german 3")

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Its actually at the point that ive considered using aircraft to counter anti aircraft guns.

LOL!



String -> RE: So, I'm trying the british long campaign. How to fight german armor? (12/9/2008 12:43:38 PM)

Try using the 25pdr's in direct fire mode?



Maciste -> RE: So, I'm trying the british long campaign. How to fight german armor? (12/15/2008 5:55:52 PM)

Being historically inacurate, I use the 3inch AA-gun and the 40mm Bofors as at-guns, backed with some Vickers or Lewis (in case I'm defending). If I'm attacking, I prefer to use scouting units, then barrage the area where the enemy armor is, and then I advance with my Matildas (along with some sappers), to clear what's left of it. 



Aditya -> RE: So, I'm trying the british long campaign. How to fight german armor? (12/16/2008 1:41:55 PM)

If armor is used mainly against enemy infantry, then infantry is also a great strength, against armor. The best method to use infantry against armor, would be to keep anti tank guns, and other anti tank weapon equipped army personnel, in the front, along with regular infantry. Keep your tanks in the rear. Rommel was known to drive through the infantry, to the rear of the infantry. This will be quite difficult for the German armor to achieve, if there are enough anti tank weapons, grouped with regular infantry. Then, when the armor and artillery of the enemy are not in operation, the British armor can operate on the German infantry, whether they are motorized, or mechanized, provided their anti armor capability is not available. If the infantry is the target of Armored Divisions, then the infantry must nullify the threat to themselves.



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