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Dive Bomber1 -> RE: Why won't they fly (4/6/2008 8:29:48 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Mogami
Hi, Set another group to fly recon into the hex. Recon and search missions fly before bombing missions. The darker the LCU appears the better your detection level.
Keep some fighters for escort because if the enemy is flying LRCAP that could cause unescorted bombers to abort.
Have you tried low level fighter-bombers?
I've had as many as 5 dedicated Recon units set to fly in to that hex. They won't fly there either. I regularly and successfully bomb Chinese LCUs in the "field" elsewhere without using Recon flights
In the mid-March 1942 pbem I've had 6 LCUs in that hex from mid-December 1942 until the present. Every day they do an artillery attack on the 8 Chinese LCUs. The 8 Chinese LCUs then do artillery bombardments back. BTW - those 8 Chinese LCUs total about 125, 000 troops.
I've had several Daitais of Zeros on LR CAP, Escort and Sweep over that hex. I haven't done that recently because my opponent hasn't had any planes at all, let alone fighters, within LR CAP range of that hex since January 1942.
I have tried low-altitude fighters on "Ground attack" missions, but they haven't flown either. I don't have any fighter bombers as the Japanese player at this point in my pbems.
BTW - I have an Air HQ in Canton, with a very good Air HQ General in charge. The Air HQ has a range of 4 hexes. I also have plenty of supplies, the air fields are at level 6, and I have an Air Support Engineering Regiment in place so that I have over 250 Air support points. I typically have less than 100 planes at the air field at Canton, and often much less. Even a single Sonia Chutai, along with a single Babs Recon unit, won't fly to 43,40. The same thing goes for Hong Kong, for Amoy, etc, etc.
Along the road between Sian and Chungking, three hexes west of Sian, I have a half dozen LCUs, as does my opponent. We are both able to bomb each other's troops regularly. Last turn my opponent sent in his Chinese 2E bombers unescorted, my Zeros on LR CAP slaughtered them. I regularly have dive bombers hit my opponents troops in that hex, with or without escorts. A while back I sent in some Nates on Ground Attack and they were ambushed by some P-40Bs on LR CAP over that hex - but my surviving Nates still dropped their bombs.
Along the road from Rangoon to Mandalay I also have a half dozen LCUs, as does my opponent. We are both able to bomb each other's troops regularly. We routinely "out guess" each other when it comes to sending out LR CAP.
So I am only seeing the effect at 43, 40.
I've seen the same effect in my pbem against AuTiger. He hasn't been putting any LR CAP over his troops because my planes never fly against that hex. When he was moving his troops into that hex I was able to bomb his LCUs while they were on the road and moving towards 43,40. Once they reached 43,40 my planes never fly against those troops again.
When AuTiger attacked Nanning my planes flew against his troops at Nanning and everywhere along the road from Nanning to Canton, with the exception of 43,40.
In the other earlier times in the Game when AuTiger sent his troops to Canton, my planes attacked his troops everyone in the area, including Canton, but not at 43,40.
In my third pbem that is in August 1942, the problem has become "moot" because my troops captured all of the Southern Chinese bases. But early in that pbem when my opponent put his troops at 43,40, my planes would not attack that hex either.
Usually duing the Combat Replay if I remember to look for them I notice clouds over 43,40. That's in all of my pbems. My guess is that there is a glich in the Data Base that is similar to what happens to LCUs when they refuse to move to a location because the Database "thinks" that they are in an enemy zone of control, yet they are no where near any enemy troops.
Thanks for your suggestions.
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