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JanSorensen -> RE: new possible bug (6/16/2008 11:43:28 AM)
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I just took a look at the pp for minor ally issue.
I made a quick test which shows that
- no pp is gained when a minor becomes an ally, nor is pp lost if a minor reverts from ally to influenced.
- no pp is gained when a minor ally is called to war.
- the log shows a pp gain when a minor ally is called to war even so
Log:
1805, Jan Austria +1pp
1805, Jan Munster Is Now Austria Freestate
1805, Jan Austria calls minor ally Munster to war against Prussia
1805, Jan Austria +1pp
1805, Jan Liege Is Now Austria Freestate
1805, Jan Austria calls minor ally Liege to war against Prussia
but on the pp chart Austria does not gain 2 pp for these minors.
However, I do not believe Austria should get any pp from aligning minors! Allow me to explain why.
Minors are essentially a null sum game pp wise.
If you attack a minor it costs you 1pp but the MP chosen to run the minor gains 1pp. Net sum is zero.
If you conquer a minor you gain 1pp but the prior owner loses 1pp. Net sum is zero.
If you declare war on a MP who owns a FS you do not pay extra to DoW the MP nor does the owner gain any PP.
If you declare war on a MP who has a minor ally to align you do not pay extra to DoW the MP - so neither should the MP aligning the minor gain any pp.
If aligning a minor ally gained 1pp there would be a gain with no corresponding loss - which is clearly against the intentions of having minors be null sum pp wise!
Thus I believe there should be no pp gain from aligning a minor. If that means you dont want the minor - then dont ally with it. Mind, dont try to argue that ".. but I will lose 1pp if the enemy takes the minor away from me so I should gain 1pp from aligning it." That does not work as you would be looking only on your side of the pp balance - you would be ignoring that the enemy would also gain 1pp from conquering the minor.
I hence believe that the fix should be to not add the errorneous line to the log that claims to add 1pp.
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