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Historiker -> RE: THE THREAD!!! (7/23/2009 7:47:21 PM)

Anyway, I'd be happy to read what I'm doing wrong! It has already helped me a lot to write here. I read many words I don't know and use a dictionary to find out their meaning. Together with the words I learn from trying (is that right?) to write not like a five year old kid, I'm pretty sure it already improved my english significantly. It wasn't trained in any way all the years before!

won't is from "will", right?



Mynok -> RE: THE THREAD!!! (7/23/2009 7:49:31 PM)

Yes, and it's "from trying to not write like a five year old". See, these are just differences in idiom between German and English, not bad grammar.

Also, we say "it wasn't taught". The meaning is perfectly clear, it's just differences in idiom.



Terminus -> RE: THE THREAD!!! (7/23/2009 7:52:30 PM)

Lots of people have tried to get me to become a school teacher over the years, to teach kids some of my allegedly "good" English. Can't do it. I practice a sort of Zen English, just going with the flow. I'm actually no good at grammar.



anarchyintheuk -> RE: THE THREAD!!! (7/23/2009 7:57:08 PM)

German sentence structure usually makes more sense than ours . . . for a german-speaking-english-as-a-second-language-type it must be like being taught that 2+2=3 when you know it's 2+2=4. At least english doesn't have those compound 10+ syllable words.



Historiker -> RE: THE THREAD!!! (7/23/2009 7:58:50 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Mynok

Yes, and it's "from trying to not write like a five year old". See, these are just differences in idiom between German and English, not bad grammar.

Also, we say "it wasn't taught". The meaning is perfectly clear, it's just differences in idiom.

So the not always in front of the verb?
When does a "y" at the end turn into an "ie"?
Doesn't "taught" mean teach? I intended to say "I didn't have any practice", so I've written train like training.



Historiker -> RE: THE THREAD!!! (7/23/2009 8:00:44 PM)

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At least english doesn't have those compound 10+ syllable words.

But that's what makes the german language so potent [:D]



Wirraway_Ace -> RE: THE THREAD!!! (7/23/2009 8:03:00 PM)


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ORIGINAL: anarchyintheuk

German sentence structure usually makes more sense than ours . . . for a german-speaking-english-as-a-second-language-type it must be like being taught that 2+2=3 when you know it's 2+2=4. At least english doesn't have those compound 10+ syllable words.


the sheer number of words in English also makes it very difficult to master. If I recall correctly, about 4-times the number of other major languages--and if you include the Oxford vs Webster spelling differences, it has 8 times as many.



USSAmerica -> RE: THE THREAD!!! (7/23/2009 8:04:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Terminus

Lots of people have tried to get me to become a school teacher over the years, to teach kids some of my allegedly "good" English. Can't do it. I practice a sort of Zen English, just going with the flow. I'm actually no good at grammar.


T, I often completely forget that English is not your native language. [:)]



USSAmerica -> RE: THE THREAD!!! (7/23/2009 8:07:09 PM)

I studied French in High School for 2 years, but never had the chance to use it.  Some place like this on the internet would have been fantastic practice.  Now, 25+ years later, I'm lucky if I remember a few words of French vocabulary.  [8|]



Wirraway_Ace -> RE: THE THREAD!!! (7/23/2009 8:07:20 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Historiker

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At least english doesn't have those compound 10+ syllable words.

But that's what makes the german language so potent [:D]

did you mean painful instead of potent?[;)]



Terminus -> RE: THE THREAD!!! (7/23/2009 8:09:03 PM)

To Germans, that's the same thing...[:D]



Historiker -> RE: THE THREAD!!! (7/23/2009 8:09:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Wirraway_Ace


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ORIGINAL: anarchyintheuk

German sentence structure usually makes more sense than ours . . . for a german-speaking-english-as-a-second-language-type it must be like being taught that 2+2=3 when you know it's 2+2=4. At least english doesn't have those compound 10+ syllable words.


the sheer number of words in English also makes it very difficult to master. If I recall correctly, about 4-times the number of other major languages--and if you include the Oxford vs Webster spelling differences, it has 8 times as many.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language#Vocabulary
475.000 to 1.000.000

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_language#Vocabulary
9.000.000 [:'(][:D]



Historiker -> RE: THE THREAD!!! (7/23/2009 8:11:38 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Terminus

To Germans, that's the same thing...[:D]

Hmm...

Do you know the movie "Der Eisbär" with Till Schwaiger? There are three drunken guys sitting at a table and talking about the superiority of Germany and the german language [:D]
Relly funny scene!



anarchyintheuk -> RE: THE THREAD!!! (7/23/2009 8:14:55 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Historiker

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At least english doesn't have those compound 10+ syllable words.

But that's what makes the german language so potent [:D]


So . . . instead of saying business meeting all I have to do is say: gesellschafterversammlung. [;)]



Wirraway_Ace -> RE: THE THREAD!!! (7/23/2009 8:15:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Historiker


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ORIGINAL: Wirraway_Ace


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ORIGINAL: anarchyintheuk

German sentence structure usually makes more sense than ours . . . for a german-speaking-english-as-a-second-language-type it must be like being taught that 2+2=3 when you know it's 2+2=4. At least english doesn't have those compound 10+ syllable words.


the sheer number of words in English also makes it very difficult to master. If I recall correctly, about 4-times the number of other major languages--and if you include the Oxford vs Webster spelling differences, it has 8 times as many.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language#Vocabulary
475.000 to 1.000.000

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_language#Vocabulary
9.000.000 [:'(][:D]


I think you are playing fast a loose with wiki statistics sir...



Historiker -> RE: THE THREAD!!! (7/23/2009 8:18:57 PM)


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ORIGINAL: USS America

I studied French in High School for 2 years, but never had the chance to use it.  Some place like this on the internet would have been fantastic practice.  Now, 25+ years later, I'm lucky if I remember a few words of French vocabulary.  [8|]

I learned it for 5 years, but also have forgotten most. When my sister married 4 or 5 years ago, I talked to a (female) french guest and she stated that my french is nearly without accent. Unfortunately, the words I can spell without accent aren't much more than I have fingers... [;)]

At least, I can still read and understand most.



Historiker -> RE: THE THREAD!!! (7/23/2009 8:21:28 PM)


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ORIGINAL: anarchyintheuk


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ORIGINAL: Historiker

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At least english doesn't have those compound 10+ syllable words.

But that's what makes the german language so potent [:D]


So . . . instead of saying business meeting all I have to do is say: gesellschafterversammlung. [;)]

Or maybe: Hauptgesellschafterdiskussionsjahresversammlung [;)]
But I think one may also write Hauptgesellschafter-Diskussionsjahresversammlung here...



Historiker -> RE: THE THREAD!!! (7/23/2009 8:29:44 PM)

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I think you are playing fast a loose with wiki statistics sir...

what does "to play fast a loose" mean?



Mynok -> RE: THE THREAD!!! (7/23/2009 8:35:12 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Historiker

So the not always in front of the verb?
When does a "y" at the end turn into an "ie"?
Doesn't "taught" mean teach? I intended to say "I didn't have any practice", so I've written train like training.


"Always" is a rare thing in English grammar rules. [:D]

Taught does mean teach, and "didn't have any practice" is the correct way to say that.

Do you have an example of 'y' turning into 'ie'?



Mynok -> RE: THE THREAD!!! (7/23/2009 8:35:42 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Historiker

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I think you are playing fast a loose with wiki statistics sir...

what does "to play fast a loose" mean?


It means to twist them to say what you want them to say.....[:D]



Terminus -> RE: THE THREAD!!! (7/23/2009 8:41:39 PM)

In an American colloquialism...

Good Thread, I got that right on the first pass... Either that, or the Firefox spell-checker has no idea what I'm talking about...[:D]



Terminus -> RE: THE THREAD!!! (7/23/2009 8:45:10 PM)

Anyway, seems like the initial rush into the AE subforum is just about over. I think I'll sign off for the evening. Got to get up early tomorrow...



Historiker -> RE: THE THREAD!!! (7/23/2009 8:46:34 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Mynok


quote:

ORIGINAL: Historiker

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I think you are playing fast a loose with wiki statistics sir...

what does "to play fast a loose" mean?


It means to twist them to say what you want them to say.....[:D]

Well, the world has proven twice that our military isn't the strongest. The chinese are about to show that our export isn't the strongest - so at least leave us our language superiority [;)]



Historiker -> RE: THE THREAD!!! (7/23/2009 8:47:32 PM)

Gute Nacht, Kristan!



bobogoboom -> RE: THE THREAD!!! (7/23/2009 9:38:04 PM)

Hey historiker in germany when yall hunt is it rifle hunting or shotgun hunting. ie are you hunting deer or birds or what? i've only gotten to hunt with a dog once and it was lots of fun.



bobogoboom -> RE: THE THREAD!!! (7/23/2009 9:38:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Terminus

Amazing... After THREE YEARS, the day has come. You guys will LOVE this game.

hell yeah bitches!



bobogoboom -> RE: THE THREAD!!! (7/23/2009 9:40:30 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Mynok


Ooops...see? I forgot sprechen was an irregular verb. [8|]

Certainly I will help. Your grammar is fine. Most of your "mistakes" are idiomatic, not grammatical.

unlike mine[:'(]



AW1Steve -> RE: THE THREAD!!! (7/23/2009 9:43:26 PM)


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ORIGINAL: bobogoboom


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ORIGINAL: Mynok


Ooops...see? I forgot sprechen was an irregular verb. [8|]

Certainly I will help. Your grammar is fine. Most of your "mistakes" are idiomatic, not grammatical.

unlike mine[:'(]



No Bobo, your mistakes are not idiomatic. They are idiotic. There isa a difference! [:D][:D][:D]



AW1Steve -> RE: THE THREAD!!! (7/23/2009 9:44:25 PM)


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ORIGINAL: bobogoboom

Hey historiker in germany when yall hunt is it rifle hunting or shotgun hunting. ie are you hunting deer or birds or what? i've only gotten to hunt with a dog once and it was lots of fun.


They hunt Texicans! [8|][:D][:D][:D]



Historiker -> RE: THE THREAD!!! (7/23/2009 9:44:55 PM)

Both, but that also depends on where you live. My parents live in the Bavarian Forest, where's a lot of deer, roe deer and wild boar in deep forests. If you live in the northern flatlands, you probably prefer hunting birds as there are only roe deer and wild boar. In the bavarian forest, you only occasionally hunt with shotguns. Usually, you sit in raised blinds using a rifle.



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