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bigbaba -> NOMAD VS BIGBABA..or "who gets the best place at the beach of rabaul?" (9/25/2008 1:19:18 AM)

nomad and me started a UV game (i play the japanese and we play the official scenario 16).

we are at the beginning of december 1942 now and i want to explain the strategic situation from the point of view of the empire.

-new guinea area is under japanese control. PM and GG are well manned and fortified (i did not repeat my mistake from the earlier game and this time, i started the fortification of PM+GG very soon).

lae is a strong air base with a level 7 AF capable of letting 300 AC operateing from there and beyond the range of american medium bombers. if his heavies attack lae, i am sure that the loses for him will be higher then the gain. lae has a level 9 fortification and several fighter units at the airbase ready to intercept any incomming attack.

-solomon area is also under the control of the empire. irau and lunga are very well manned and fortified. i followed a idea of ike and did not develped the port at irau to reduce the effect of allied air attacks on the supply situation there. irau has a level 9 fortification and so does lunga. in addition to that, lunga and russel island have very well developed airbases ready to let over 400 aircrafts operate from there against any allied invasion attempts.

-mine war was a main focus of my defence since i saw in games of other players (ike for example) how effective this can be to slow down an invasion. irau, lunga, GG are protected by together more then 17.000 mines and the ML-fleet is still in non stop "mine runs" between truk and the first defence line of the empire.

-fleet situation: i lost 2 CV, 1 CVL, 4 CA/CL, 10 DD, 6 APD and several AP. the allied lost 3 CV, 1 BB, 5 CA/CL, 29 DD and several AK/AP. so the main battlefleet is intact and is waiting for the allied attack to respond.

-air situation: the allied lost nearly 1300 AC (some of them on the ground as i took PM) and the empire lost nearly 700 AC so far. alot of them are float planes on ASW patrol. the loses of the nell/betty groups are low and they are still intact.

-the land force situation: the allied lost several combat brigades at GG and PM so their army lose points are at nearly 1000. i hope this assault troops will be missed and that allows me to hold any attacked base for a long time.

-the VP situation: the japanese have 8900 VP and the allied are at 3600. but we still have one year ahead us and 1943 will be a different story for the empire then 1942.

so thats the situation and ken, feel free to post your comments and thoughts in this AAR.

and..BANZAI BANZAI BANZAI!



bigbaba -> RE: NOMAD VS BIGBABA..or "who gets the best place at the beach of rabaul?" (9/27/2008 7:51:57 AM)

+++UPDATE+++

we have mid december 1942 and it seems that something is going on. an allied MSW TF is spotted at GG. all units are on alert and all holidays are deleted.

the next turns will bring more clarity into the situation.



bigbaba -> RE: NOMAD VS BIGBABA..or "who gets the best place at the beach of rabaul?" (10/2/2008 8:25:04 AM)

its 12/22/1942 now and the fortification of the bases in the solomon island and NG area is going on while nomad is developing the bases right N of luganville.

the only activities were few raids on GG and PM with nearly 70-80 heavy bombers which caused light damage (thanks to the fortification level) and 2 allied MSW operations at GG with no impact on the mine fields there..the number of mines at GG is still going up.

4 CV/CVL, 8 BB, 22 CA/CL, 83 DD, over 300 nells/bettys and 500 zeros/oscars along with 250 toepedo-and-divebombers are ready to crush any enemy invasion attempt of the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere. we will see if they can be succesfull or not.



bigbaba -> RE: NOMAD VS BIGBABA..or "who gets the best place at the beach of rabaul?" (10/6/2008 1:25:21 PM)

its now the beginning of 1943 and my recon planes spotted huge allied ship movements N of luganville. so i started a 2 days air offensive against this allied ships.

for sinking 3 AP/AK, 2 escort crafts and 2 MSW, i lost not less then 26 nells/bettys and 10 zeros!

the only good thing is, that 2/3 of the loses were OP loses and so the pilots of most of the lost AC are back and not lost. also, i had nearly 30 bettys in pool which i hoped to use to replace some nell units. but after this heavy loses, i can forget that for a long time.

my fighters shot down more then 20 enemy fighters in this 2 days and i lost 10 of them (some ara OP loses with rescued pilots).

so it was a expensive offensive and i will need 2-3 weeks to recover from the loses.



tocaff -> RE: NOMAD VS BIGBABA..or "who gets the best place at the beach of rabaul?" (10/6/2008 3:08:55 PM)

Welcome to 1943 where the Allied steamroller grinds you down with loses that can't be replaced and doesn't even have Corairs yet.



bigbaba -> RE: NOMAD VS BIGBABA..or "who gets the best place at the beach of rabaul?" (10/7/2008 12:06:36 AM)

although the loses were heavy, i am not that pessimistic about the future.

my battlefleet has 11 BB, 25 CA/CL, 88 DD and thats a huge and powerfull force for a long fight.

and from now on, i dont need to sink all allied ships. its enough to damage them so they are "out of game" for the most of the remaining time.

it will be a huge problem when he brings corsairs into the range of lunga or PM, but that will be a damnd hard thing to do for the allied with all the japanese fortificated bases and the mights battlefleet ready to strike.



Nomad -> RE: NOMAD VS BIGBABA..or "who gets the best place at the beach of rabaul?" (10/7/2008 1:28:49 AM)

Well corsairs will be arriving soon. I am waiting for something to happen, it should occur soon. I am not sure if I will attack early in the year or just wait until August some time. F6Fs on CVs are deadly to your aircraft also. The biggest problem I will face will be the experience difference in our surface fleets. I will get surprised a few times and that will hurt. I just remains to be seen if I can establish some strongholds close enough to get my bombers into action.
If I do, I can pound most all of your bases into dust. If not, you win. I have lost before.



tocaff -> RE: NOMAD VS BIGBABA..or "who gets the best place at the beach of rabaul?" (10/7/2008 1:22:06 PM)

I've never launched the Allied offensive later than early May '43.  To much to do in a short time.  I've had opponents throw in the towel 3-4 months into the assault as it is unstoppable as the Japanese forces get ground down.



bigbaba -> RE: NOMAD VS BIGBABA..or "who gets the best place at the beach of rabaul?" (10/10/2008 1:46:12 AM)

the new air, land and naval commander of south pacific, vice admiral tanaka made a statement in the popular radio program "voice of sushi" boradcasted from truk to the citizens of the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere:

its mid january 1943 now and we have the "quiet before the storm" phase in our fight against the ango-american barbarians and colonialists.

although we know how well the american and australian soldiers understand to fight and accept them as brave warriors, we have great confidence to our weapons and our men useing this weapons to protect your freedom.

today, a huge imperial air and naval armada of the empire and hunderts of thousends elite soldiers who know how to fight in the jungle stand under arms to beat the great behemoth waiting to be unleashed against the indipendent people of asia.

our fight is your fight. so people from the aleutian islands to imphal join us in our struggle and you your best to help us defending your rights, your freedom, your familiy and your home!

and to the brave australian soldiers and people:

do not fight against us. we dont want to invade your homeland or to enslave you! we are your friends and want to bring you healthy sushi while the americans bring you burger king poison!

guys, i am just at work and have time. dont take this serioulsly.=)


edit:

nothing new. one AP sunk and 3 were damaged while i supplied GG in the middle of a thunderstorm. unfortunary, his medium bombers had no problems with the weather, but the loses are acceptable for 25.000 more supply to GG.




bigbaba -> RE: NOMAD VS BIGBABA..or "who gets the best place at the beach of rabaul?" (10/11/2008 2:16:44 PM)

end of january 1943 now. for sinking 3 more AP/AK, i lost 3 bombers. thats a fair trade.

nomad still move a lot of transport and torpedo boat TFs north of luganville. his only air activities are raids to GG from time to time with some 4E but they cause minor damage. otherwise, it is quiet in the air...for now.





bigbaba -> battle over irau... (10/15/2008 6:36:53 AM)

its 02/08/1943 now. the last turn saw good flight weather...and a massive allied raid (including 16 corsairs) from his airfields N of luganville against irau consisting corsairs, wildcats, lightnings and some B-17. the raid seemed like another milk run...until they arrived at irau and run to over 100 zeros from lunga flying CAP over irau.

over 200 planes collided over irau and a intense air battle begun. the results could be better and also worser.

for the confirmed destroying of 16 lightnings, 6 wildcats, 1 corsair and 3 B-17, i lost 25 zeros in air combat. all in all, a good preformance of the IJN aviation in this state of the game. we can be sure, that the allied loses are much higher (because of the long way back home) then the confirmed loses.

and: does someone know where the combat reports are saved at a vista PC? so i can post them here.



HansBolter -> RE: battle over irau... (10/15/2008 2:45:28 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: bigbaba

its 02/08/1943 now. the last turn saw good flight weather...and a massive allied raid (including 16 corsairs) from his airfields N of luganville against irau consisting corsairs, wildcats, lightnings and some B-17. the raid seemed like another milk run...until they arrived at irau and run to over 100 zeros from lunga flying CAP over irau.

over 200 planes collided over irau and a intense air battle begun. the results could be better and also worser.

for the confirmed destroying of 16 lightnings, 6 wildcats, 1 corsair and 3 B-17, i lost 25 zeros in air combat. all in all, a good preformance of the IJN aviation in this state of the game. we can be sure, that the allied loses are much higher (because of the long way back home) then the confirmed loses.

and: does someone know where the combat reports are saved at a vista PC? so i can post them here.



are they NOT saved in the same place as on an XP system.....in the saved game folder?



bigbaba -> RE: battle over irau... (10/17/2008 12:04:04 PM)

no they are not, hans...or at least i can not see them there although i run the saved game folder as system administrator.



HansBolter -> RE: battle over irau... (10/17/2008 3:32:18 PM)

Not to be insulting but when things go wrong the most obvious questins have to be asked such as when some one complains their computer won't boot the question of whether or not it is plugged in HAS to be asked.

I know that a fresh install of XP will set up explorer (file manager not internet explorer) to hide system files and hide extensions for known file types, etc....could something like that be going on where the system is hiding the file from you? Take a look at the file and folder settings in explorer, or whatever they call it in Vista.



fuelli -> RE: battle over irau... (10/17/2008 5:22:48 PM)

They are in the save folder on my PC (Vista)...
But I have never been the Japanese Player so for with my new system, therefore forget about my comment.....



bigbaba -> RE: battle over irau... (10/18/2008 12:46:57 PM)

the last turns saw a japanese U-boot offensive against the allied naval activities N of luganville what resulted into a stunning victory....for the yanks.

i lost 2 SS and they even did not launched one torpedo attack. the imperial HQ orderd all submarines to head for their homebase since they are now more or less worthless against the improved allied ASW-capabilities. they will now only be used in ML operations.

in the air, the first tony squadran arrived and we hope, it will be more effective against allied bombing runs in the future with its better armament and armor then the oscar and zeros.



bigbaba -> RE: battle over irau... (10/19/2008 3:13:38 PM)

its 02/26/1943 now and nomad is moveing. he has a small base at rossel island between GG and lunga and his fleet is 6-7 hexes south of his new base. the fleet contains carriers, escort carriers, cruisers, destroyers, fleet tankers...everything you need for a huge fleet action or a invasion.

all units are set on alert and the air recon acticities are reinfirced.



Nomad -> RE: battle over irau... (10/19/2008 5:40:55 PM)

I now have a good foothold on Rossl Isand. Size 1 airbase and port. I have plenty of SeaBees, baseforces, infantry, CDs, AAs, and most important:

Corsairs

It will be up to a level 2 next turn or two and I will be basing SBDs and TBFs.

I am surprised that I have seen no response yet.



Nomad -> RE: battle over irau... (10/19/2008 7:02:48 PM)

Well, 2/28/43 turn is done. Rossel Island is up to a level 2 airbase. I now have some SBDs, TBFs and P-38s with the Corsairs. It looks like there are
some IJN surface fleets about to make an appearance. I have some SCTFs of my own there so we will see what happens.



bigbaba -> RE: battle over irau... (10/19/2008 8:38:47 PM)

admiral tanaka stands up and goes to the window of his HQ in rabaul. the night sky is clear and you can see every single star. a fresh wind comes in through the window and inside the heavily cigar smoked room. in the lagune, tanaka can see several IJN ships loading and unloading cargo while in the near airbase, some fighters and float planes are repaired by technicans. in the distance, you can hear traditional japanese music played through a radio.

tanaka takes a long and deep breath and turns around to face his staff surrounding a table with several maps and intel reports on it. the room is suddenly still as tanaka comes back to the table and all the discussions end.

tanaka looks into the eyes of his officers and says to them clear and slowly:

"you have your orders, gentlemen. the great plan sho-ho will be preformed."





bigbaba -> operation sho-ho: (10/19/2008 9:41:29 PM)

ok, where should i begin? i will not post the entire AAR here, because that would be too much stuff to read. i never had such a intense fight in just one turn in any of my games up to now.

first, the might of the IJN reached rossel island at night. the several fleets had all in all 9 BB, 28 CA/CL and over 60 DD.

few ships were hit in the night at rossel islands by allied mines and at day, we had some air attacks from the island by TBF/SBD damageing one DD. then the big guns waked up and dozends of ships were involved in a massive battle at the island at day....unfotunary at day, although i had hoped to get a night action against the allied fleet.

to say it the short way, here are the confirmed causalties (by japanese intel) of both sides:

the IJN lost 2 DD. several other DD and some CA are damaged badly and on the was out of the battle zone.

the USN lost 8 DD, 2 TK/AO, 5 AP, 1 CA and 1 CL. several other ships are damaged and since the next allied port is far away and my bombers are still not involved into the fight, they will have a hard time escapeing the combat zone.

the air loses were nearly 50 planes on my side and 30 planes on the allied side.

all in all, it was a good day for the empire. it was just bad luck and the time lose because of the allied mines that i was not able to get my night surface combat. i think at night, the results would have be even better.




bigbaba -> RE: operation sho-ho: (10/19/2008 10:39:12 PM)

its 03/03/43.

the last turn saw huge japanese AC loses..but most of them vals and kates from the "baby-KB" attacking the allied CV instead of easier targets. 70 vals and kates were lost.

the battleship washington took 3 torpedo hits from bettys operating from rabaul an several hits by japanese surface units and must sunk in the near future. also, a allied CA, a CL and 2 DD were damaged badly and should sink soon. i lost no ships in the last turn, although a CVE is damaged but it should make it to the port.

the US surface fleet is retreating from rossel island and only a handfull CL/DD are still there and also the allied CV TF, which lost alot of offensive power in the last turn attacking the baby KB.



Nomad -> RE: operation sho-ho: (10/19/2008 11:48:05 PM)

As I had expected, the IJN surface units are much stronger than the USN at this time. I can only hope to wear him down in the next few months.



Nomad -> RE: operation sho-ho: (10/20/2008 1:42:17 AM)

I was able to catch some of his BBs over the last two turns. Last turn I sank two BBs. One thing I like about UV over WitP, 1000lb GP bombs will penetrate BB deck armor. A few more are damaged so things are shaping up for me. My New Orleans CAs and Brooklyn CLs are a good match up for his CAs. And with Corsairs to escort, my bombers can hit anything that doesn't get out of range.

Mehrdad is having some problems getting his bombers from Lunga to attack my CVs, but it could just be heavy CAP.



bigbaba -> RE: operation sho-ho: (10/20/2008 2:13:24 AM)

actualy, your CV are even a easier target for the lunga airforce then rossel island. so i dont understand why they go for rossel islands corsairs instead of for the CV wildcats.

aye, last turn i lost 2 BB. i still lead by 4950 points but have to be very carefull now with nomad sitting at rossel island.



Nomad -> RE: operation sho-ho: (10/20/2008 2:51:45 AM)

Here is what I am pretty sure of after many years of playing this game.

The program does not look at what kind of fighters there are, just the numbers.

I have 5 x 24 = 120 fighters based at Rossel Island.

I have 36 + ( 2 x 24 ) + ( 3 x 21 ) = 147 max on my CV/CVL/CVEs.

So, your fighters with highly skilled pilots impale themselves on my Corsairs at Rossel Island.

Note that sometimes ( but rarely ) it disregards the numbers and attacks in funny directions.



bigbaba -> the battle continues... (10/20/2008 2:55:45 PM)

last turn saw (again) some action around rossel island. all other locations are unimportant for both sides at the moment and everything is concentrated on this little island east of GG.

the IJN battlefleet made a 2nd run for rossel island and this time with great succes.

after several air attacks from the island were repulsed by the CAP over the battlefleet, 3 task forces arrived at the island and begun destroying allied naval vessels around the island.

in several small and big engagements, the following allied ships were sunk:

the BB maryland sunk west of nouma after 2 torpedo hits from I-26.

at rossel island:

1 CL, 7 DD, 4 AP/AK, 4 TK/AO, 3 MSW.

the IJN lost no ships although some ships are damaged but will make it to the port.

then the IJN made 3 bombard runs on the island and i expect that no plane will take of from there in the next turn because of the high AF damage (63) there. in the next turn, bombers will continue and keep the AF closed.



Shadow of the Condor -> RE: NOMAD VS BIGBABA..or "who gets the best place at the beach of rabaul?" (10/20/2008 9:40:46 PM)

Gentlemen,

Entertaining AAR - and a good read. I do get back here now and again, and am happy to find UV is still going strong. Best of luck to both!



bigbaba -> RE: NOMAD VS BIGBABA..or "who gets the best place at the beach of rabaul?" (10/21/2008 2:58:31 AM)

thanks shadow. overall, i find that UV is a great PBEM game with some bugs and errors in the game engine which hopefully will be removed in CF.

back to the front:

more night surface action at rossel island. the IJN lost 1 DD while the US fleet lost 1 CA, 1 CL and 4 DD.

the island is under heavy naval and aerial bombardements. nomad seems to havealot of ENG units there but very few INF so thats my chance to get some allied POW cheap.

although i lost very few ships in the last turns (except the 3 BB), a huge part of my fleet is under repair and hopefully ready for action before the next allied reinforcements from PH arrive.

VP difference is again over 5000.



bigbaba -> the battle goes on... (10/22/2008 1:32:50 PM)

03/21/43

in the last turn, elements of the IJN fleet attacked allied shipping at rossel island, sinking 8 AP/AK and 1 MSW. nomad tries to close lunga airfield with his heavies from the luganville area, but with a level 9 AF and over 200 ENG on the bas, it should still open.

in the last turn, CAP over lunga managed to destroy few heavies and damage more then 50 of them, so we can expect some high OP loses here.

the whole battle depends realy on rossel island. if i can capture it, i may win this game. if he can keep it, he may win. he must run out of warships very soon while i had luck to save most of my ships because of the short distance to the harbors for the damaged ships.

2 turns earlier, a allied surface TF fought with the mighty yamato and musashi at rossel island. result was 3 sunken japanese DD while the allied lost at least 3 CA and some DD.



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