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Greg Wilcox -> 1.04.04 Public Beta Avalible!! (9/26/2008 2:33:24 PM)
We've uploaded the Beta version of the 1.04.04 Comprehensive Update available to our Members Club. While we do final testing we figured we'd offer you a change to get it early as well. This is still a beta, but it's stable and solid as far as we can tell. See the change list list below for details. You can download this as a Registered Download as long as you have registered your Empire in Arms serial number in our Members Club (click on the MEMBERS link in the top nav bar). Change List: o Standard Fixes Fixed: Relieving a siege leaves the corps stuck Fixed: Can not attack port Fixed: Turkish Manpower does not include Conquered Fixed: Seazone border not visible Fixed: Free State cannot build Fixed: Supply bug: allowing supply from depot when enemy corps in intervening province. Fixed: Freikorps units being placed on map with 0 factors Fixed: Nelson tries to reinforce land battle Fixed: France not receiving American Trade $ Fixed: Polis Manpower not provided Fixed: In a battle in Khotin, there's supposed to be a river combat; which doesn’t happen Fixed: Swedish fleet leaves blockaded Stockholm unmolested Fixed: France combat vs Russia, calls reinforcements and can select Austrian Corp Fixed: DOW Bug Fixed: Minor drops War when politically recombined Fixed: Leader captured when the corps he is attached to is eliminated Fixed: Depot in besieged port is in the rural zone, thus out of supply Fixed: Area info box is not showing all counters/leaders Fixed: MP being forced to break an alliance for an informal peace attempt that did not succeed Fixed: PBEM games are simply enabling ALL alliances where boxes are checked Fixed: Game doesn't correctly transfer minors lost to instability to occupying nation Fixed: PP tally is visible in the middle of the Diplomacy phase Fixed: Backups in land combat phase loses battles Fixed: Movement tracking jumpy Fixed: Manual Forage Random Number Generator Fixed: Can't pick up corps counter with blockaded fleet Fixed: Building depots in neutral minors is possible, but against the rules. Fixed: Enemy free state corps not attackable Fixed: Problem with blockading neutral ports containing enemy fleets Fixed: Siege bug with ottoman corps Fixed: Loaned corps not allowed to move into an original MPs freestate Fixed: Sweden income not being calculated correctly Fixed: The log incorrectly shows a +1pp gain when a minor ally is called Fixed: You can disembark to an adjacent area from fleet with corps sailed into a friendly port. Fixed: Econ & dip phase weirdness with bankrupt major power and negative money Fixed: Minor conquest of Minor Fixed: Double click to get the Ally Request screen is not working properly. Fixed: Strange repatriations Fixed: Getting kicked out of ceded home provinces Fixed: Depot is removed automatically at the end of temporary access Fixed: Confederation of Rhine troops vaporize besieged garrisons Fixed: Sieges are being relieved even when relieving force does not win the field combat Fixed: Fleet attempts intercept despite being told to intercept only weaker force Fixed: France in danger of Eminent Collapse Fixed: No enemy besieging corps is attackable Fixed: Forces returned to an unowned area o AI Fixes and Enhancements Fixed: Prussia not supporting Austria against France Fixed: Austria attacking Venice (its own navy) Fixed: AI fails to use manpower in Spanish PBEM economic phase Fixed: AI cheating. Moving Naval units After Combat Phase before Diplomacy Phase Fixed: General naval fecklessness Fixed: Still leaving some forces unblockaded even when they outnumber the opposing navy! Fixed: AI Aus makes a very unintelligent attack Fixed: AI MPs underestimating army strength Fixed: Russia will not attack empty Finland Fixed: AI Britain forgets to retain London depot on second amphibious strike Fixed: Britain gets paralyzed when its fleets and corps are not stacked together Fixed: AI sometimes is allowed to place a depot in a port that was just taken. Fixed: France AI marches Napoleon into battle with 1 guards corps o Enhancements Refined the alliance selection process Now allowed to remove depot with garrison Change save game name convention to game_name + player .sav

Jimmer -> RE: 1.04.04 Public Beta Avalible!! (9/26/2008 9:29:56 PM)
Marshall, I have a question: I'm in two games currently. One is the long-running CleverDevils game. That one is going to require that I upgrade to 1.04 in order to continue. However, the other one is a tutorial game, and one player there is obligated (by his other games) to not run anything except released updates. So, what happens with two people playing the same game, but using different versions? Before I upgrade, I want to make sure I'm not going to clobber one of his other games. NOTE: I'm the host in the tutorial game, which could make a difference in your answer. Thanks.

DCWhitworth -> RE: 1.04.04 Public Beta Avalible!! (9/27/2008 12:13:10 AM)
Matrix have strongly advised that all players in a PBEM game should be running the same version of the game.

fvianello -> RE: 1.04.04 Public Beta Avalible!! (9/27/2008 9:28:42 AM)
Yes, never ever play 2 PBEM games using different versions.

Marshall Ellis -> RE: 1.04.04 Public Beta Avalible!! (9/27/2008 11:49:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Jimmer Marshall, I have a question: I'm in two games currently. One is the long-running CleverDevils game. That one is going to require that I upgrade to 1.04 in order to continue. However, the other one is a tutorial game, and one player there is obligated (by his other games) to not run anything except released updates. So, what happens with two people playing the same game, but using different versions? Before I upgrade, I want to make sure I'm not going to clobber one of his other games. NOTE: I'm the host in the tutorial game, which could make a difference in your answer. Thanks. I don't think you will clober the game BUT the 1.04 players will have a little advantage over the players that are running an older version simply because they have a newer better version.

Jimmer -> RE: 1.04.04 Public Beta Avalible!! (9/28/2008 12:31:43 AM)
Well, I'm not particularly worried about Prussia having an advantage: This is the tutorial game, so not that much can happen. DCWhitworth said that Matrix has strongly advised that everybody have the same version. Can someone point that out to me (in a relatively recent context, that is). I'm in a Catch-22 situation. I've got one game where I MUST upgrade to continue, and I've got one game where I CAN'T upgrade without upsetting other players (and possibly doing "something" to the game). Can you give me some specifics, Marshall (and DC)? I need a bit more to go on.

NeverMan -> RE: 1.04.04 Public Beta Avalible!! (9/28/2008 2:13:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Jimmer I'm in a Catch-22 situation. I've got one game where I MUST upgrade to continue, and I've got one game where I CAN'T upgrade without upsetting other players (and possibly doing "something" to the game). Can you give me some specifics, Marshall (and DC)? I need a bit more to go on. I am also in this exact situation.

wworld7 -> RE: 1.04.04 Public Beta Avalible!! (9/28/2008 3:22:25 AM)
With ANY software, it is always better for everyone to be using the same version. It would be difficult if not impossble to list what problems can come up if people use different versions. Nor would it be worth the resources to track down. This is why it is better for either everybody to upgrade or nobody upgrades. At least this has been my experiance with software over the last 25+ years. Good luck!

Jimmer -> RE: 1.04.04 Public Beta Avalible!! (9/28/2008 4:08:23 AM)
So, in other words, only play one game at a time?

NeverMan -> RE: 1.04.04 Public Beta Avalible!! (9/28/2008 6:38:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Jimmer So, in other words, only play one game at a time? Right. I would totally lose interest and would stop playing EiANW altogether. Even playing 4 games, I probably only spend 10-20 minutes a week on this game.

eske -> RE: 1.04.04 Public Beta Avalible!! (9/28/2008 7:53:57 AM)
I have seen mentioned somewhere, that someone had two different versions installed on the same computer. That would of course be in conflict with the license agreement of this program, but would only take place, untill all games were upgraded and using the same version again. Naturally not something Matrix could or would suggest... /eske

wworld7 -> RE: 1.04.04 Public Beta Avalible!! (9/28/2008 8:05:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Jimmer So, in other words, only play one game at a time? That is one choice you could make. It is only only if people start running different versions of a program is it possible for unexpected and/or unexplainable things to start happening. This does not mean things will happen if they do so, it just opens the door so to speak. This is a non-issue if everybody is on the same version. Perhaps seperate installs would be a solution?

wworld7 -> RE: 1.04.04 Public Beta Avalible!! (9/28/2008 8:08:38 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: eske I have seen mentioned somewhere, that someone had two different versions installed on the same computer. That would of course be in conflict with the license agreement of this program, but would only take place, untill all games were upgraded and using the same version again. Naturally not something Matrix could or would suggest... /eske I was not aware that was in conflict with license agreement. If you are right about that then another solution must be found.

Jimmer -> RE: 1.04.04 Public Beta Avalible!! (9/28/2008 7:24:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: flipperwasirish It is only only if people start running different versions of a program is it possible for unexpected and/or unexplainable things to start happening. This does not mean things will happen if they do so, it just opens the door so to speak. This is a non-issue if everybody is on the same version. Perhaps seperate installs would be a solution? Better leave off the word "only", since the current situation is both unexpected and unexplainable. Plus, the "fix" (for the current turn) was to have Marshall save the game on his 1.04 (beta) copy of the game, and then send it back to us. So, this kind of argues against what you are saying. Separate installs are not an option: The license agreement specifies that we can "use one copy of the software".

wworld7 -> RE: 1.04.04 Public Beta Avalible!! (9/28/2008 8:58:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Jimmer quote: ORIGINAL: flipperwasirish It is only only if people start running different versions of a program is it possible for unexpected and/or unexplainable things to start happening. This does not mean things will happen if they do so, it just opens the door so to speak. This is a non-issue if everybody is on the same version. Perhaps seperate installs would be a solution? Better leave off the word "only", since the current situation is both unexpected and unexplainable. Plus, the "fix" (for the current turn) was to have Marshall save the game on his 1.04 (beta) copy of the game, and then send it back to us. So, this kind of argues against what you are saying. Separate installs are not an option: The license agreement specifies that we can "use one copy of the software". "Only" can't be left out. Because I have seen unexpected/unexplainable problems crop up in games, network applications and networks themselves ONLY because all software versions were not the exact same. And yes, even then unexpected/unexplained problems can come up. But then, at least you know it isn't a software compatibility causing the issue, and that assists in trouble-shooting and correcting the issue.

RayKinStL -> RE: 1.04.04 Public Beta Avalible!! (10/2/2008 4:16:47 AM)
Just another reason to have my copy loaded on multiple machines that I own. That way I can play my PBEM games, but can still have fun with the AI by taking advantage of the newest releases with AI upgrades.

DCWhitworth -> RE: 1.04.04 Public Beta Avalible!! (10/2/2008 10:29:10 AM)
One problem with installing two versions is that they are not completely seperate, they will be sharing the registry entries I believe. These include entries for 'install path' and 'version' which will be correct for only one game. What effect this may have I don't know. One method I have heard that has been used is to deinstall the program and reinstall it with the patch version you need. then when you want to play a game with a different version, deinstall and reinstall with the new version of the patch. It's a drag but should work correctly and be safe and legal.

iamspamus -> RE: 1.04.04 Public Beta Avalible!! (10/2/2008 12:46:50 PM)
Put on flame retardant suit. Adjust googles. Check gloves. Go. And then we wouldn't have to hear your complaining. What's the downside...? [:D] Really just kidding. Jason quote: ORIGINAL: NeverMan quote: ORIGINAL: Jimmer So, in other words, only play one game at a time? Right. I would totally lose interest and would stop playing EiANW altogether. Even playing 4 games, I probably only spend 10-20 minutes a week on this game.

Marshall Ellis -> RE: 1.04.04 Public Beta Avalible!! (10/2/2008 2:14:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DCWhitworth One problem with installing two versions is that they are not completely seperate, they will be sharing the registry entries I believe. These include entries for 'install path' and 'version' which will be correct for only one game. What effect this may have I don't know. One method I have heard that has been used is to deinstall the program and reinstall it with the patch version you need. then when you want to play a game with a different version, deinstall and reinstall with the new version of the patch. It's a drag but should work correctly and be safe and legal. I'm not sure either??? I have not tried this. You should not have to uninstall then install the patch though, at least there was never an intent that this be done.

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