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PongoDeMer -> British aircraft carriers delayed (12/12/2008 6:34:05 AM)

The following link, leading to an article in today's Daily Telegraph, should be of considerable interest to all Harpoon enthusiasts and scenario designers.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/defence/3708825/Two-aircraft-carriers-delayed-for-two-years-to-rescue-MoD-from-budget-shortfall.html

Currently the R.N. is down to (I believe) 22 frigates and destroyers, a couple of through deck (almost) aircraft carriers and 8 attack submarines. What those numbers will be when/if the two new carriers eventually come into commission is anybody's guess[:(]

Pongo




Shark7 -> RE: British aircraft carriers delayed (12/12/2008 2:55:37 PM)

A definate change from pre-WWII when the Royal Navy was one of the largest navies in the world.




Hertston -> RE: British aircraft carriers delayed (12/12/2008 8:52:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: PongoDeMer

Currently the R.N. is down to (I believe) 22 frigates and destroyers, a couple of through deck (almost) aircraft carriers and 8 attack submarines. What those numbers will be when/if the two new carriers eventually come into commission is anybody's guess[:(]



Indeed, although the numbers can't sink any lower while remaining a viable force. That's about enough to protect one carrier, allowing for refits and other essential tasks.

In all honesty, though, I do have to ask what a larger Navy would actually be used for. After Korea the RN's principle concern became anti-Soviet operations; particularly ASW in the GUIK gap. Even with a more aggressive 'Putinesque' Russia, that threat no longer exists and in all probability never will. The carriers were an essential buy (and there should have been three, not two) as in the short/medium term the obvious requirement is fast force projection with a punch globally that at present we just don't have. Delaying the carriers won't hurt much, partly because we already know the RN JSF won't be ready in time anyway, but mostly because a couple of years beforehand might provide time to think over and solve problems that would probably have resulted in several years delay and a huge overspend, as with the Astute class boats.




PongoDeMer -> RE: British aircraft carriers delayed (12/12/2008 9:04:46 PM)

Pre WW2 the Royal Navy WAS the largest navy in the world. This only changed during WW2 when it was overtaken in size by the United States Navy

Just for the record...

Pongo




fvianello -> RE: British aircraft carriers delayed (12/12/2008 10:08:18 PM)

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In all honesty, though, I do have to ask what a larger Navy would actually be used for.


That's probably what most of Britain was thinking until April 2, 1982.




CV32 -> RE: British aircraft carriers delayed (12/13/2008 3:22:46 AM)

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ORIGINAL: HanBarca
That's probably what most of Britain was thinking until April 2, 1982.


Zing! [:D]




PongoDeMer -> RE: British aircraft carriers delayed (12/13/2008 10:03:22 AM)

And now H.M.S. Northampton has been withdrawn from the Falklands, to be replaced by some non-warship.[:(]

Pongo




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