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hack153 -> Hack's Plays v3.4.4 Released (12/22/2008 4:39:15 PM)
The latest release is out on FBMax.com under "unsorted." There is also a link underneath my name. v3.4.4 includes the completed Coach Davis Jr. playbook. although, i forgot to add Special Teams plays. those will be added in v3.4.5 along with the new Coach Wilson playbook. Davis Jr. is a balanced / pass balanced offensive, with a balanced / pass coverage defense. It has a variety of formations, and spreads the rock to different receivers. The team that uses this playbook should have a RB that has above average speed and agility because there is not always a FB to lead the way. Davis Jr. contains a more detailed 2 minute drills (actually 3 minute because the game does not have a slot for 0-2 min.) for the 2nd Half. It also contains one for the 1st half. (I hope it is a happy medium to what people wanted.) v3.4.5 should be out in the next several weeks. Also, there is a new template, but it is not empty. You will need to remove the plays from each group in order to use it. I will empty it on the next release.

Mykal -> RE: Hack's Plays v3.4.4 Released (12/22/2008 5:29:20 PM)
jeepers Hack your next version came really fast......... you been drinking red bull [sm=party-smiley-012.gif]

regenerator -> RE: Hack's Plays v3.4.4 Released (12/22/2008 9:08:58 PM)
Thanks for the update, Hack. The profile mods look great. Out of curiosity, when yr testing these things, would you mind posting what settings you personally use? For instance, Constants.dat, what yard-line you kick from, length of quarter, those types of things; I want to make sure I'm making optimal use of these playbooks. Very much appreciated. :)

simmer -> RE: Hack's Plays v3.4.4 Released (12/22/2008 9:26:26 PM)
how do I use Davis w/o special team plays

DreamTeams -> RE: Hack's Plays v3.4.4 Released (12/22/2008 10:03:05 PM)
A workaround would be to open the playbook with the MaxF utility set and import them from one of the other playbooks.

garysorrell -> RE: Hack's Plays v3.4.4 Released (12/22/2008 11:30:45 PM)
Yep...just add the plays yourself in the MaxFB utility, as DT said. Great to see a new playbook.....thanks Hack

hack153 -> RE: Hack's Plays v3.4.4 Released (12/23/2008 12:36:10 AM)
quote: your next version came really fast......... you been drinking red bull yes, yes i have. it also helps that i work graveyards and never see the light of day! quote: Out of curiosity, when yr testing these things, would you mind posting what settings you personally use? For instance, Constants.dat, what yard-line you kick from, length of quarter, those types of things; I want to make sure I'm making optimal use of these playbooks. i am using gary's constants...he would have the answer on what he has changed. i kick from the 30 yard line, and usually use 12 minute quarters. skill ranges are also important. i will add my skill range guide sometime in the near future. quote: how do I use Davis w/o special team plays there are Special Teams plays in the playbook. however, they are generic and not coach specific.

DreamTeams -> RE: Hack's Plays v3.4.4 Released (12/23/2008 3:44:09 AM)
Davis Jr. is a sweet playbook, Hack. Really enjoy the way the QB moves out of the pocket for a better look sometimes. Thanks for the latest update.

garysorrell -> RE: Hack's Plays v3.4.4 Released (12/23/2008 11:16:34 AM)

I assigned Coach Davis to Lakeside of the Pacifica League, to replace Coach Wilson, and Lakeside defeated Seaview(Coach Miller)17-10.
Really fun playbook to see in action. Next week, 5-1 Mountain Home is at Lakeside. I look forward to seeing how Davis handles Coach Williams.

SEAVIEW		00   10   00   00   00   10   
LAKESIDE	07   07   00   03   00   17   

                    SEA            LAK
1st Downs           10             15
Rushing             42             59
Passing             219            206
Net Yards           261            265
Penalties           3/35           7/56
Total Plays         51             49

Rushing
  Att/Yds           16/42          16/59
  Avg Gain          2.6            3.7
  Fumbles/Lost      00/00          00/00

Passing
  Comp/Att/INT      13/35/1        16/32/0
  Yards             219            206
  Avg Gain          16.8           12.9
  Avg Per Att       6.3            6.4
  Sacks Against     0              1

Kicking
  Punts             7/291          8/347
  Field Goals       1 of 2         1 of 1

POSSESSION          19:31          20:29


Individual Offense

Passing: 
 SEA -- BABER 13-34, 219 YDS, 1 TD, 1 INT, 6.4YPA, 58.3R
GIFFIN 0-1, 0 YDS, 0 TD, 0 INT, 0.0YPA, 39.6R 
 LAK -- HAIRSTER 16-32, 206 YDS, 2 TD, 0 INT, 6.4YPA, 91.4R

Receiving:
 SEA -- PETRILLA 3-34 0 TD, REGLER 3-58 0 TD, 
IMESON 3-35 0 TD, KAMLER 1-70 1 TD, 
JUNE 1-10 0 TD, STEVES 2-12 0 TD, 
 LAK -- BONGIO 3-81 1 TD, LASWELL 3-30 0 TD, 
LEDO 3-41 1 TD, TROWERY 2-17 0 TD, 
PHIBBS 2-6 0 TD, HERZBRUN 3-31 0 TD,  

Rushing: 
 SEA -- BABER 1-2 0 TD, GAUSE 1--3 0 TD, 
STEVES 13-43 0 TD, LAUTERS 1-0 0 TD,  
 LAK -- PHIBBS 15-48 0 TD, HAPEMAN 1-11 0 TD,  

Kicking:
 SEA -- (1-29) KNIE 1 of 2, 
 LAK -- (40+) HORNIG 1 of 1, 

Individual Defense

Tackles:
 SEA -- HILGERS 4, KORUS 1, BRACE 3, 
NIGGEMANN 1, NEHLSEN 8, BRISCOE 3, 
APLEY 3, ADKIN 3, COCKROFT 1, 
IMESON 2, TAKAGI 1, DOEDEN 3, 
CEGIELSKI 3, GAUSE 1, STEVES 1, 
SHAMMAH 2, ARGUMEDO 1, 
 LAK -- BONGIO 1, LASWELL 1, TROWERY 1, 
LOSEE 4, GLAUNER 1, BRIDDELL 5, 
KOSCHO 1, RERUCHA 2, BATZ 3, 
DIPIETRANTO 2, DIFEDE 1, NANNINI 9, 
SCHMAUS 1, WIERSEMA 2, LEIDICH 1, 
HAPEMAN 1, HERZBRUN 2,  

Sacks:
 SEA -- SHAMMAH 1, 
 LAK -- 

Int:
 SEA -- 
 LAK -- BRIDDELL 1-0, 


---- SCORING SUMMARY ----
03:56 1ST DWN: 1 TOGO: 10	LAK	 TD	60 YARD PASS FROM HAIRSTER TO BONGIO
03:48 1ST DWN: 1 TOGO: 10	LAK	 PAT	HORNIG 
09:54 2ND DWN: 3 TOGO: 10	SEA	 TD	70 YARD PASS FROM BABER TO KAMLER
09:44 2ND DWN: 1 TOGO: 10	SEA	 PAT	KNIE 
02:41 2ND DWN: 4 TOGO: 5	SEA	 FG	KNIE 12 YARDS
01:12 2ND DWN: 2 TOGO: 6	LAK	 TD	21 YARD PASS FROM HAIRSTER TO LEDO
01:08 2ND DWN: 1 TOGO: 10	LAK	 PAT	HORNIG 
05:45 4TH DWN: 4 TOGO: 10	LAK	 FG	HORNIG 51 YARDS

hack153 -> RE: Hack's Plays v3.4.4 Released (12/23/2008 11:23:12 AM)
how are the passing plays looking? too long, too short, or do they seem about right? i added a variable to the passing plays based on the formations. at most, you should only see 1-2 players going deep (near corner, endzone, post, far corner) at a time. there are also "wait" commands for various routes. i can provide the variable in the next release if anyone is interested. how is the run:ratio for Davis Jr.? how is the 2 minute drill working? thanks for the feedback.

DreamTeams -> RE: Hack's Plays v3.4.4 Released (12/23/2008 4:14:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: hack153 how are the passing plays looking? too long, too short, or do they seem about right? i added a variable to the passing plays based on the formations. at most, you should only see 1-2 players going deep (near corner, endzone, post, far corner) at a time. there are also "wait" commands for various routes. i can provide the variable in the next release if anyone is interested. how is the run:ratio for Davis Jr.? how is the 2 minute drill working? thanks for the feedback. I've watched two games with it, assigning it to a team with a stellar RB. The opponent was the same in both games. Team lost the first game 32-3. Won second game 28-10. But, the team was helped by two kick runbacks in the second game that they won. The passing plays seemed about right... In the first game they seemed a bit off a little too short, too often, but in the second game they were fantastic. Really moved the ball and passing looked real good. The running plays are nice... In the first game it seemed that the team ran at some inopportune times, like on 3rd and 10 at the opponents 20 yard line and trailing in the game. However, in the second game it was spot on, very deceptive and kept the defense off balanced. Saw some really nice blocking to spring the RB. Was very pleased. The two minute (3 minute) drill did not seem to have a real affect in the first game were the team was trailing by about ten. I saw it but would like to witness it's affect in a closer contest. But, I plan to watch a few more games. I did notice the QB waiting for an open receiver and was thrilled to see that. Glad you added that feature. As was stated before, this is a fun playbook to watch. Excellent job, Hack.

regenerator -> RE: Hack's Plays v3.4.4 Released (12/23/2008 4:56:53 PM)
Gary - those stats look great. Would you mind posting your constants? -Thanks

garysorrell -> RE: Hack's Plays v3.4.4 Released (12/24/2008 12:06:19 AM)

Not sure if my constants have changed again or what, think these are the same I have been using all along.
Also, very important......I have made my WRs faster than my DBs, significantly. I edited speed in the maindata so players are generated that way.
If these constants are different than thew defaults, I got some of the ideas from dreamteams

[CONSTANTS]
//Blocking
BlockingBaseLine=1
BlockingPassBlockTime=3
BlockingPushBlockTime=1.2
BlockingPassBlockStrength=1.5
BlockingPushBlockStrength=0.80
BlockPancakeThreshold=0.15

//Tackles. The higher the number, the more missed tackles.
TackleThreshold=15

//Physics
PhysicsBaseMoveSpeed=6
PhysicsBaseAgility=0.15
PhysicsMaxChangeDirTime=1
Physics_MaxPuntStrength=7.8
Physics_MaxFGStrength=15
Physics_MaxKOStrength=17

//Defensive Reaction times.
DefenseBaseM2MCoverageArea=3.5
Defense_PassReactionBaseTime=2
Defense_ReadBaseTime=3

//Field Goal Accuracy, the closer the number is to zero, the more accurate the place kicks
FieldGoal_Accuracy=30

//QB Read base times.
QBRead_Threshold=1.5
QBScramble_Threshold=2

//QB Passing Contants, the higher the number, the less accurate the pass
QBPassingAccuracyStanding=1.5
QBPassingAccuracyRunning=1.8
QBPassingAccuracyScrambling=2

//QB base 'angle of deviation from optimal' This is modified by the above QB passing constants
//the higher the number, the less accurate the pass
QBPassingAccuracyBase=5

//There are three pass accuracy systems to choose from
//1 = Angle Adjustment only . This is an accuracy adjustment to the throwing angle
//2 = Distance Adjustment only. This is a accuracy adjustment to the determined throw distance.
//3 = Combined Angle and Distance.
//With all systems, the QBPassing accuracy constants play the same roles. So the rule holds true
//The lower the Accuracyconstants, the more accurate the passing.
QBPassingSystem=3

//These are the fatigue Values. Some actions in the game add fatigue, some substract it.
//The value name tells you if the fatigue is added or subtracted.
//Fatigue is a percentage of 100% added for every one second of the action.
Fatigue_AddRunning=3
Fatigue_AddCatching=4
Fatigue_AddBlockingPush=5
Fatigue_AddBlockingPass=6
Fatigue_AddTackling=10
Fatigue_AddBeingTackled=15
Fatigue_AddLongPasses=5
Fatigue_SubtractResting=-3
Fatigue_SubtractWalking=0
Fatigue_SubtractStanding=-1

Here are my speed entries...I only changed DB and WR

PosAbbr	PosID	R1(Speed)
QB	0	55/70
WR	1	85/94
OL	2	50/57
RB	3	70/85
DL	4	50/60
LB	5	60/75
DB	6	70/85
TE	7	75/82
SB	8	75/82
K	9	55/65
HO	10	55/70
BL	11	50/60
KR	12	75/90
CT	13	50/58
P	14	55/65
CO	15	50/60

mudrick -> RE: Hack's Plays v3.4.4 Released (12/25/2008 8:00:34 AM)
Absolutely excellent, love it.

hack153 -> RE: Hack's Plays v3.4.4 Released (12/25/2008 11:24:51 AM)
excellent. hopefully Wilson will be just as good. i'm having fun making it. there should be some good QB draws and boots.

garysorrell -> RE: Hack's Plays v3.4.4 Released (12/25/2008 2:31:11 PM)
I dont see any issues with Davis. Looks solid. I really think it has to be tough to troubleshoot a playbook. I dont envy you. Since every user could have very different results based on their constants/ratings/etc.....oof. My leagues are set up to, for the most part, have high pass completion. Although im getting higher comp % with your books and 11 players than I am with my playbooks and 8 man. The small field makes play creation very touchy. Any long routes need to be 'fly' or to the corners. And those long pass plays need to be in situations that wont run them inside the opponents 15, which is nearly half the field. And this is why im still working on mine [:'(]

garysorrell -> RE: Hack's Plays v3.4.4 Released (12/25/2008 2:35:09 PM)
Oh, and I was wondering, do you think I would be able to use the old wilson along with the new one? Did you make new plays for the new one, update old plays or a mix of both? I think if I set up a profile that would play to all the QB runs, it could still be a successful book. A faster QB would be deadly with the old Wilson. Like a Cunningham/Kordell/Bobby Douglass kinda QB.

hack153 -> RE: Hack's Plays v3.4.4 Released (12/25/2008 2:40:15 PM)
i got rid of most of the old wilson plays. however, i do keep copies of all my releases (from 2006!). if you copy and paste the old plays into the new playbook that should work. at least you could test it...and back-up everything!!! i don't think the plays # will be the same, so it should put those plays into the "Plays" folder. Coach Wilson be have all new offensive plays. they will be similar but less 3 RB sets.

garysorrell -> RE: Hack's Plays v3.4.4 Released (12/25/2008 2:52:05 PM)
When I get your new releases, I always change my plays folder to backup_plays, then move your plays folder into my maxfb directory and then export each playbook. Then move the pbk for each over to my backup_plays folder. I then move your plays folder back to my 'Hacks Stuff' folder[:)] and change my plays folder name back to plays. I have a playbook called import11, I just import each of your playbooks via that. Then, obviously, everything is as it should be. I avoid the 'dump' into the plays folder because i once did that and an 11man play showed up in my 8 man playbook. Screwy but did happen. Must have been million to 1 odds of the plays being the same, and the 11man overwriting the 8man play. My process only takes a couple minutes. I can be a bit OCD at times.

hack153 -> RE: Hack's Plays v3.4.4 Released (12/25/2008 5:06:10 PM)
sorry that i stopped when the last message was half done. my Sgt. came and told us to go home and let day watch deal with the crooks. so...Coach Wilson will be a run heavy offense again. the HB will get the most carries, with the QB and FB in close second. there are going to be a ton of running plays, a good amount of play action, and an average to below average amount of passing plays. i am really liking the plays that i have designed for the FB. they are the same Dive and Blast/Slam plays, but i am using zone blocking with them. for some reason, the FB is getting pretty decent yardage during test runs. i am going to attempt making QB Draw plays. this is not as easy as it first appears. i'm sure by the end of today i'll have it figured out. it should be a good playbook to watch again. of course, it's really important to give the HB, FB, and QB above average to excellent speed and agility with this playbook. additionally, i have been working on skill ranges some more. i'm finding more and more that agility rating can make or break you. (i've been comparing a lot of Combine test results)

garysorrell -> RE: Hack's Plays v3.4.4 Released (12/31/2008 10:30:43 PM)
Im not sure if its something I did, but I didnt see the ALLKNEELDOWN in Davis.

hack153 -> RE: Hack's Plays v3.4.4 Released (1/1/2009 1:35:20 AM)
it might not be in the playbook, but it is in the groups.

garysorrell -> RE: Hack's Plays v3.4.4 Released (1/1/2009 2:01:28 AM)
Thats cool. I added it anyway, hadnt checked the groups yet. I've been working on adding groups to a couple CFL playbooks...man is it a godawful pain in the butt. Not sure there is an easier way, and it isnt that bad, but to be as inclusive as possible it takes some patience and time. Thank goodness for the 'save as' button...helps bunches during the repetative stretches. And you have done how many of these? I salute you!

micvik -> RE: Hack's Plays v3.4.4 Released (1/1/2009 7:30:03 PM)
Thanks Hack, these playbooks are wonderful. Having some experience with PDS now I can fully appreciate the work you've put in. I admire you're dedication.

hack153 -> RE: Hack's Plays v3.4.4 Released (1/1/2009 8:12:53 PM)
ORIGINAL: garysorrell quote: Thank goodness for the 'save as' button...helps bunches during the repetative stretches. be careful of the "save as" button. if you add plays to that group, do not us "save as" when you edit. it will create groups that contain hundreds of plays...including ones you don't want in there. i don't know why it happens, but it does (there are some non-believers!). it seems to only happen after you play a game with that playbook. quote: And you have done how many of these? I salute you! it is a real pain in the @!! isn't it!?!?!?

DAWUSS -> RE: Hack's Plays v3.4.4 Released (1/4/2009 10:04:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: hack153 ORIGINAL: garysorrell quote: And you have done how many of these? I salute you! it is a real pain in the @!! isn't it!?!?!? I'm sure it's like trying to come up with gameplans for multiple teams, right?

hack153 -> RE: Hack's Plays v3.4.4 Released (1/4/2009 10:22:59 PM)
quote: I'm sure it's like trying to come up with gameplans for multiple teams, right? yup.

Mykal -> RE: Hack's Plays v3.4.4 Released (1/5/2009 3:40:24 PM)
I downloaded these a while back but never tried 'em til now Stuck in Canada with my Yellowknife, I didnt need 'em But now with Yellowknife entering the WCFL, I'm getting a good look at these play sets Truly Excellent man. [sm=happy0065.gif][sm=happy0005.gif]

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