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Feltan -> RE: Most useless SIG INT ever.... (2/5/2009 1:17:59 PM)
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ORIGINAL: rtrapasso
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ORIGINAL: Feltan
Sadly, I've experienced much the same playing Japan.
What makes it sad is that Japan actually had a quite sophisticated Direction Finding (DF) system. I was hoping the game would model this a bit better. While they might not have cracked the code, any allied radio keying a mic risked being plotted on a map -- and often the parametric data of the message would let the Japanese know if it was a sub, ship, plane, ground unit, etc.
And, while the military had some measure of radio discipline, especially combat ships, the merchant marine was notorious for poor radio security.
I would suspect that in real life, during any given 24 hour period, the Japanese would get a "radio transmission from base X" for just about every occupied base on the map. The gems would be the transmissions DF'd at sea.
Regards,
Feltan
The game REALLY understates intel efforts (on both sides), for instance, during much of the war, the Allies had:
1) detailed OOB reports for the IJN.
2) detailed sailing orders with expected time/positions of a convoy (the Harbormaster and Merchant codes had been broken);
3) on some occasions, detailed operational reports of upcoming operations;
4) details on planned Japanese air unit transfers;
etc.
Actually, given the extensive penetration of the Japanese codes, it is estimated that the Allies could (should?) have won at least 6 months - 1 year before when they did except for the "empire building" of the Redmond brothers (the guys who robbed the credit of Midway from the Hawaiian HYPO code breaking unit and were given medals for it.) [X(] [:(]
This is all quite correct. Perhaps AE will take another look at how "Fog of War" is modelled in the game; currently, it is more restrictive than the real life commanders faced.
Due to code breaking efforts, the allies should indeed have better intel. However, the Japanese were not total slouches either -- as previously mentioned, the Japanese DF system was robust, and they pretty much had the market cornered on "enhanced interrogation techniques."
With some wide margin for variation, any LCU sitting in a location for long enough should eventually be identified. OOB's will be compromised given extended contact or in combat. The real dodgey stuff is task force composition and location -- which the allies were better at, but still got caught off guard even late in the war.
Regards,
Feltan
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