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Gary Olsen -> Uncommon Valor Manual (5/16/2002 5:02:28 AM)

Since the game has shipped any chance of posting the PDF manual on line for us poor souls who are waiting for are shipment to arrive?

Might save some time answering questions that are in the manual :) .

Gary




MalleusDei -> (5/16/2002 5:21:40 AM)

Good point. I don't see how this should be a problem, and it will probably increase sales.




ratster -> (5/16/2002 5:33:30 AM)

They said a while back they wouldn't post it because they didn't want to pay for the added bandwidth consumption the downloading of said manual would create.




YZ426f -> (5/16/2002 5:52:22 AM)

Well that is too bad. It might have convinced a guy like me who is on the fence to purchase the game. Maybe they could hold off on one of their free download games to put it up if it's a bandwidth thing. After all there isn't a demo out to try.

Any official word on the matter?

Yamadog




Paul Vebber -> (5/16/2002 10:06:01 AM)

We are not officially posting any of the game components.

What you folks do via private email is up to you.

But if something in the manual doesn't make sense to you because you don't have the game, we will not be handling such questions as part of our support to folks who buy the game.

We appreciate word of mouth recommendations and short of cracking and copying the game, what you do to help a friend decide to buy the game or not is up to you. But we don't officially sanction or support anythingbut purchases of the complete game.

Things are complicated enough as it is...




Reiryc -> (5/16/2002 10:35:56 AM)

[QUOTE]Originally posted by YZ426f
[B]Well that is too bad. It might have convinced a guy like me who is on the fence to purchase the game. Maybe they could hold off on one of their free download games to put it up if it's a bandwidth thing. After all there isn't a demo out to try.

Any official word on the matter?

Yamadog [/B][/QUOTE]

Just curious...what exactly are you sitting on the fence for? What about the game and the aar's doesn't seem to 'do it' for you?

Maybe by asking a direct question about what it is that you need answered to actually go out and buy the game, you would not feel the need to be on the fence anymore.

Reiryc




MalleusDei -> (5/16/2002 10:42:09 AM)

My copy is due here on May 22nd. In the meantime, if the UV manual appeared in my email box by some strange coincidence I would consider it an act of great mercy. I'm at [email]malleus@bellsouth.net[/email]




Preacher -> (5/16/2002 10:45:53 AM)

Ditto at [email]regray8@msn.com[/email]

Preacher




Berkut -> (5/16/2002 10:49:48 AM)

Hehe. Ditto.

[email]jheidman@rochester.rr.com[/email]




ratster -> (5/16/2002 10:56:55 AM)

Hey, yeah, sure, that would be great.

[email]sandman283@comcast.net[/email]


Might be to large for email though, a lot of ISPs put limits on email size, [B]NOT[/B] mine though. :)




cpt_Venomous -> (5/16/2002 11:05:04 AM)

Do to mistake (my fault) my order been postponed, so untill paypal approves, for certain it be monday when game gets shipped, was among the first to pre-order (got me raging)
so count me too
[email]rusvenomous@icqmail.com[/email]

Thank You!




Berkut -> (5/16/2002 11:07:51 AM)

I have broadband and no download limit. If someone sends it to me, I would be happy to forward it to others.

Berkut




Catgh_MatrixForum -> (5/16/2002 11:54:22 AM)

Put me on the list of waiting for shipping, but would love to see the manual before the game arrives next week.

[EMAIL]rmeier@lpea.com[/EMAIL]




Jagdwyrm -> (5/16/2002 12:17:52 PM)

I'd appreciate it as well and would be happy to forward it to others...broadband here. [email]mdd00@lvcm.com[/email] zip it if you like




matt.buttsworth -> (5/16/2002 2:45:13 PM)

Me too. [email]matt.buttsworth@freesurf.ch[/email]




Achim -> (5/16/2002 4:36:04 PM)

[email]silverea@gmx.de[/email]

(germany :) )




LargeSlowTarget -> (5/16/2002 4:43:35 PM)

RPT from 1st impressions-thread, just in case: [EMAIL]Taffy-03@gmx.net[/EMAIL]




matt.buttsworth -> (5/16/2002 4:49:23 PM)

ditto. [email]matt.buttsworth@freesurf.ch[/email]




LargeSlowTarget -> (5/16/2002 4:59:19 PM)

BTW, how large is the file? I don't mind download time, but I hate mailbox-overflow...




kgsan -> (5/16/2002 5:01:36 PM)

ditto for me. I placed my order on May 1 but it still hasn't shipped so I'd love to at least have the manual to pore over:

[email]kgsan@aol.com[/email]




Marc von Martial -> (5/16/2002 5:31:04 PM)

The manual is around 5mb.




LargeSlowTarget -> (5/16/2002 5:43:49 PM)

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Marc Schwanebeck
[B]The manual is around 5mb. [/B][/QUOTE]

Jeez!! Thanx for the quick response.




osros -> (5/16/2002 6:05:16 PM)

My copy gets here today so the Manual is no big deal for me. But I feel for those who have to wait thru the weekend.

Has the PDF been getting around yet?




johnmac -> yes please (5/16/2002 6:08:53 PM)

Well, I'd appreciate a copy too - I don't think Duchet computers
have received their copies yet, though I do like the plaintive message on their site - have you guys been persecuting them??

Mail is [email]john@infonomicon.com[/email]




Henri -> (5/16/2002 7:00:03 PM)

Here is my 2 cents' worth on this question. The last 2 games I bought (SPWaW and Starships Unlimited cost me almost as much as the game to print the manual on my color printer at home. If the manuals had been available on the Matrix web site, I would have downloaded them at work and printed them on my laser printer for 1/10 the price or less. Sure I could have mailed the manual to myself at work, but it may have exceeded the size limit there.

I don't see how having the manual online for download is going to make matrixgames lose sales, since I don't see why people who are not interested in the game would bother to read the manual (I wouldn't unless I'm intending to buy the game). And the same goes for people who might not buy the game but would be asking questions on the site. I would think that almost ANY kind of positive activity on forums about their games would make a company happy, since it generates interest for their games.

Perhaps a shortened manual (for example the first couple of chapters or something) cold be used as publicity.

Of course it's not for me to tell Matrixgames what to do, but...

BTW it would be a lot cheaper and convenient for someone here to put the manual on an ftp site for a short time, instead of mailing it to a lot of people, and would avoid the problem of limited mail size. To avoid overloading the site, the generous person would not give the site address publicly, but email the address to people who query here and who seem worthy of confidence (the site could be closed if abuse happens).

Anyway the demand will die down as soon as most buyers have received their copy.

henri




Carentan -> (5/16/2002 7:06:12 PM)

I have a site that allows unlimited d/l'ing and will post the manual to it this morning. If Matrix doesn't mind, I will post a link in this thread.




MojoPhryman -> Me Too Please (5/16/2002 7:43:15 PM)

I foolishly settled for ground shipping, as a cost saving measure. Man I wish I hadn't done that. I'm not sure that I can manage to wait until it arrives on Monday. So if some kind soul would like to send me the manual, I would sure appreciate it. Thanks!!!

[EMAIL=michael.modrow@dctaylorco.com]MojoPhryman[/EMAIL]




Marc von Martial -> (5/16/2002 8:05:51 PM)

[QUOTE]If the manuals had been available on the Matrix web site, I would have downloaded them at work and printed them on my laser printer for 1/10 the price or less.[/QUOTE]

The manuals are on the CD in not compressed format. No need to make them available for download. Thatīs costs us extra bandwith, read money.

I think itīs not hard to understand that we make no stand alone parts of the game available for download.

Now the gamer Marc speaking:

Also, I canīt recall any gaming company that has there manuals available for download. you buy the game you get the manual. Thatīs really simple IMHO, and Iīm speaking from the customer not developer point of view here. In my some 15 years of computer gaming now I wouldnīt have even thought about asking if I could have the manual in advance or just to have a look at it. So honestly guys I canīt really follow the constant bitching about this matter here.

Honestly, I think a few of the threads about emailing manuals around or making them available for download on sombodies FTP would have simply been deleted on other companies boards.
Anbody that made it to the last page of the manual should know what Iīm talking about here.

Just my two cents.




Supervisor -> (5/16/2002 8:11:20 PM)

[QUOTE]So honestly guys I canīt really follow the constant bitching about this matter here.[/QUOTE]

"You got a point there, Judge!!" :D :D :D :D :D




Marc von Martial -> (5/16/2002 9:18:59 PM)

Just for your information I post the last chapter of the UV package license agreement:

quote:

The enclosed software program and this manual are copyrighted. All rights are reserved. The original purchaser may print or have a print/copy shop make a printout and/or copy of the manual. Matrix Games grants the original purchaser of this software package the right to use one copy of the software program.
You may not rent or lease it, disassemble, decompile, reverse engineer, or modify the software in any way. All editors may be used to create scenarios that may be freely distributed. All scenario authors hold the ultimate rights to their designed scenarios and Matrix Games makes no claims thereof. You may not copy or distribute copies in any media form. Any persons doing so shall be guilty of copyright violation and subject to the appropiate civil or criminal action at the discretion of the copyright holder.


This of course applies also for the manual.




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