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Nukester -> Cant run version 1.51 install after installing 1.75 in different directory (6/13/2009 6:55:39 PM)

Im in a league that uses version 1.51 and I also had a seperate install of version 1.71 (or whatever the latest was until Shaun's comeback) for solo play
Now I can no longer run my online version (1.51) of PureSim after installing the new 1.75 version for solo play. After installing the newest version I get an error when trying to start my 1.51 version (even though it is in a completely different directory).

The error Im getting is "There is an error with the serial number as entered. Please contact support@matrixgames.com"

Im not sure what kind of help matrixgames is going to give for this game, and I am not going to be able to participate in the online league offseason until I get this figured out. Is there somewhere in the registry that I might have to change, or any other ideas ?



CrashDavis -> RE: Cant run version 1.51 install after installing 1.75 in different directory (6/13/2009 7:08:04 PM)

If running XP:
STart menu
Click RUN
type in REGEDIT
follow the tree branch:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\MATRIX GAMES\PURESIM BASEBALL 2007
look under "Authorized" and confirm your serial number is correct
look under "installed to" and confirm it is pointing to you the location you're trying to run.
Pay no attention to whatever version number is listed. That won't cause either location any harm.

Crash



Nukester -> RE: Cant run version 1.51 install after installing 1.75 in different directory (6/13/2009 8:15:41 PM)

Thanks for the help Crash. When looking at that registry, I dont have an "Authorized" entry. I have:

(Default) -(value not set)
installed - TRUE
installed from - C:
installed to - C:\PureSim07
version - v1.75 (FREE Version)

All of those seem set for the newest version. I dont see anything that is associated with the v1.51 install which I have installed in C:\PureSimOnline, and this is the only entry I have under MatrixGames in that registry path



CrashDavis -> RE: Cant run version 1.51 install after installing 1.75 in different directory (6/14/2009 12:52:25 AM)

quote:

this is the only entry I have under MatrixGames in that registry path

That's normal. No matter how many versions you have installed at one time, Windows Registry only
recognizes 1 existence at a time.

This doesn't necessarily prevent you from starting and running more than one version on your system, however, you
won't be able to use the addin modules inside in the game unless you first change the installed-to location in the
registry before starting the game.

Anyway, on to your immediate problem:
Ok, I'm guessing here: But if you re-install v1.51 over top your already existing v1.51, maybe it will add the missing keys to the registry, including the Serial Number. You do still have your SN, right? If so, maybe that will fix it. That's all I can come up with.



Nukester -> RE: Cant run version 1.51 install after installing 1.75 in different directory (6/14/2009 2:37:26 AM)

Yeah I have my serial number. I can uninstall both copies and fiddle around with it. The reason I was hesitant to do that was because the way the PureSim updates ran, it would always update the latest version of the game that was installed. So I would have to install 1.51, then install a different version of the game that I would want to get updated. This is what was happening when we were down in the 1.6X versions of the game.

Anyway, Ill reinstall both again, and see what happens



puresimmer -> RE: Cant run version 1.51 install after installing 1.75 in different directory (6/14/2009 12:52:20 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Nukester

Im in a league that uses version 1.51 and I also had a seperate install of version 1.71 (or whatever the latest was until Shaun's comeback) for solo play
Now I can no longer run my online version (1.51) of PureSim after installing the new 1.75 version for solo play. After installing the newest version I get an error when trying to start my 1.51 version (even though it is in a completely different directory).

The error Im getting is "There is an error with the serial number as entered. Please contact support@matrixgames.com"

Im not sure what kind of help matrixgames is going to give for this game, and I am not going to be able to participate in the online league offseason until I get this figured out. Is there somewhere in the registry that I might have to change, or any other ideas ?



I actually haven't tested side by side like that :(

I would suggest that the league upgrade to 1.75, is that an option now that it is free.



Nukester -> RE: Cant run version 1.51 install after installing 1.75 in different directory (6/14/2009 6:27:54 PM)

Thanks Shaun. We are talking about moving up to 1.75 (Im not the commish), but are a little hesitant because the league has been running at a good stable pace for a long time now using 1.51, and there have been alot of modifications to the financial parts of the XML. Also, with the amount of updates that are released in bunches, it might be difficult to have everyone keep up and be on the same version every couple of days for our sims. Once a nice solid final release is out (not final as in final, but final as in no major upgrades for awhile) maybe we will make the switch after some testing. As far as Im aware, we might be the only online PureSim league out there, so we are in unchartered territory alot of the time when it comes to things like this.

Im going to install 1.75 first, then install 1.51 and see what happens. I suspect that the registry will keep the 1.51 entries and will work. Im only concerned about future upgrades, which seem to automatically update the latest version that has been installed, which in this case I wouldnt want it to do. Ill keep you posted on how that turns out



Nukester -> RE: Cant run version 1.51 install after installing 1.75 in different directory (6/14/2009 7:04:43 PM)

Ok, I got them both to work by installing 1.75 first, then installing 1.51

Now Ive got to be careful with upgrades. If the upgrades run the same as in the past, it will try to upgrade the latest version installed, which would be 1.51 in this case. We dont want that. Ill see what happens when another release candidate is out.

I was able to get on the FTP server this way also



XCom -> RE: Cant run version 1.51 install after installing 1.75 in different directory (6/14/2009 7:36:26 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: puresimmer
I would suggest that the league upgrade to 1.75, is that an option now that it is free.


I am the commissioner of the league in question and just want to reiterate what Nukester has stated. As you can imagine, the most important thing for an online league is stability. We have run very successfully with 1.51 for 14 seasons now and have had no issues with file transfers.

I remember when I started the league the 1.51 release had a rock-stable multiplayer environment, but something happened in the 1.60 version which caused problems with multiplayer. Not sure if that was ever fixed or if the MP problems have carried through to this point. It is something that our league will look at when considering upgrading. Obviously, the file transfers have to be perfect for the league to work right.

The other concern I have is with statistical continuity. I know that there has been some work on the game engine since 1.51 and I'm not sure how it will affect the results that are generated in our league, especially with our customized XML file. So, there may be a good bit of work involved in upgrading to make sure the stats come out right using the new build.

All that being said, the main concern I have right now is that we might not now be able to have anyone who is running the freeware version of the game join us because the 1.51 is a full release version and requires a serial number to install. Since no one who downloads the freeware version now needs a serial number there is no way to have someone run 1.51 unless they have bought the game in the past. While it seems the simple solution is just have everyone upgrade, I'm very leary about it for the reasons I discussed above. I'm not sure where it will lead us...the league has run so well for so long and "if it ain't broke"...ya know?

Would be happy to hear your thoughts, Shaun. It is great to see you developing Puresim again! I really look forward to see how far you can take the game.



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