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Kharkov -> Production and Map questions (7/2/2009 9:08:15 PM)

Can one of the beta testers give us a run down on how production works within the game. On a personal note, I thought the production process within WitP was far too over complicated. Can I appoint the AI to run the production for me or do I need to dabble?

Looking at the screen shots I noticed that the map while looking good comes no where near the prettiness factor of lets say the Road to Moscow map. Is the map now finished or is it a work in progress?





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Montbrun -> RE: Production and Map questions (7/2/2009 9:13:16 PM)

Wow - Road to Moscow - it still makes me sad that this game was never released.



PyleDriver -> RE: Production and Map questions (7/2/2009 10:59:02 PM)

Besides delays in moving Soviet factories, everything is auto production. I know there will be some whing about that, but it agian it goes to just how vast this game is...



Helpless -> RE: Production and Map questions (7/2/2009 11:19:36 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Kharkov


Looking at the screen shots I noticed that the map while looking good comes no where near the prettiness factor of lets say the Road to Moscow map. Is the map now finished or is it a work in progress?




Map art is not 100% done. But the general look shouldn't change much. I'm not willing to discuss subjective "prettiness" factor. But with the hex based games, more important is the balance between three factors - historical accuracy, informativeness and aesthetics. It is hard to judge your low-res example, but I'm not sure if all the details (btw, not all of them are correct [;)]) would reflect the logical map information used by the game engine in WitE.



paullus99 -> RE: Production and Map questions (7/2/2009 11:38:16 PM)

Road to Moscow....wow, vaporware extraordinaire. I was really looking forward to that game.....maybe in a few years, with the advances in processing and technology, someone will pick up the torch.



Erik Rutins -> RE: Production and Map questions (7/3/2009 1:21:49 AM)

_Everything_ in WITE is a work in progress, folks, please keep that in mind.



siRkid -> RE: Production and Map questions (7/3/2009 1:35:33 AM)

I will admit that when the map first came out I was not a huge fan but after playing on it for a few games I've really started liking it. It has the look and feel of a battle map that might have been used in WWII. I think once you play on it you will agree.



kafka -> RE: Production and Map questions (7/3/2009 7:08:23 AM)

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Besides delays in moving Soviet factories, everything is auto production.


does this mean the player has no means to control production, i.e. switching from one model to another?



Marc von Martial -> RE: Production and Map questions (7/3/2009 12:42:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Kharkov
Looking at the screen shots I noticed that the map while looking good comes no where near the prettiness factor of lets say the Road to Moscow map. Is the map now finished or is it a work in progress?


Well, lets put it this way. The RTM map does look more detailed, more pretty, I do not know.

Now for a much more important aspect of RTM vs. the WITE map. Ask yourself, which map does give you a quicker impression of the terrain factor of a certain hex?
Which map does make the counters more stand out in order to judge the strategic / operational situation quickly? I find it very easy to miss a counter on the RTM map.

Both factors have been design goals, judge terrain quickly, have the counters stand out. While keeping it pretty with a contemporary look.

That being said, the highly compressed screenshots on the website do not really "promote" the map well, a lot of things look washed out.
I will ask to have them replaced with better quality ones as soon as we added some more artwork.



Sabre21 -> RE: Production and Map questions (7/3/2009 2:48:55 PM)

The WitE map is very much like a military style topographical map. The mountains and folds in the terrain are beautifully done and really gives you a 3d  overhead feel of the terrain. In game, if you look close, even the terrain that looks flat has minor variations in it that provides terrain relief. Screenshots just can't provide the detail that is actually there. IMO the RTM map doesn't come close to the quality of the WitE map.



bshirt7 -> RE: Production and Map questions (12/27/2009 7:13:06 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Brad Hunter

Wow - Road to Moscow - it still makes me sad that this game was never released.


Yes, it is a sad state of affairs.

What ever happened to that game?



comte -> RE: Production and Map questions (12/27/2009 8:33:46 PM)

I like the look of the map in WITE I think it looks really good. Road to Moscow I remember wanting this game so bad and then it just turned into vaporware.



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