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ORIGINAL: Grotius

Thanks for a very interesting thread. One doesn't see this sort of insider info from many game developers.

Heh, you mentioned that Mike was your resident AFB tester. Who had the JFB role? Brady?

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ORIGINAL: Grotius
Who had the JFB role? Brady?

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ORIGINAL: jwilkerson

Bill supported Kelley in this effort and together they have really made things look better.

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ORIGINAL: TOMLABEL
And great support he has given!!![&o]

As already mentioned, Bill is just one of the great programmers we have on the team; however, he is one of several programmers on the team who understands us 'art' guys!!! We owe many kudos for his support given to all the crazy ideas us art guys came up with and finding a way (code-wise) to make it work! [&o][&o][&o]

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ORIGINAL: Andy Mac

Everyone has helped on the AI but I would like to my especial thanks to James and Brady -

James has put up with my couldnt we make the Ai do this....comments for two years now how he remains sane is beyond me. I dont think he has ever said this cannot be done not even to my wildest requests

Brady did a huge amount of testing on the AI in many ways I have been playing brady via an interdiary for over a year now - cursing him as he finds a way to stop the AI - and then going back tot he drawing board to come up with another cunning plan to beat him.

Andy

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ORIGINAL: Buck Beach

I am so complied to ask this question with a preface. I am such a fan of El Cid and his game contributions, that have mostly gone unrecognized by the community. I know he is dogmatic, opinionated, argumentative, non-flexible and I am sure there was no way he could have ever worked with a team effort such as AE and in fact he was prone to just pissing people off along the way. In fact many of the people mentioned as contributors to AE, went out of their way to ridicule him along the way.

But you know what guys although he followed his own path without and any recognition or encouragement, he (with Cobra's map help) did develop quite a few different workable concepts . And now guess what, he is working on a real life game between the Chinese and Formosa.

And now the question. Isn't there any way you can throw this dedicated WITP gamer a bone here as a contributor if not just for some of his ideas .

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ORIGINAL: 2Stepper

Joe and company, congrats on a job well done I'm sure. I regret not having had the chance to join in the effort to bring a weather mans perspective to the game. Life, still being active in the military (though now retired after 21years) and some health issues kept me away.

That said though, I'm anxious to be able to get hold of this game and enjoy it as much as I did WITP. I may toss an odd suggestion or two around about the weather, but I'm sure we're in a better shape then before. One never knows. :) Besides, now that I'm in the software business professionally I can totally relate to the development cycle business so I won't be pushing for updates to spiral 300, dev build 1.1.1.1.1.1.0.a, or whatever it might be. [:D]

All kidding aside, it's good to be back and see so many familiar faces on the boards. So now it begins again! :)[&o][8D]

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ORIGINAL: Grotius
Heh, you mentioned that Mike was your resident AFB tester. Who had the JFB role? Brady?

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ORIGINAL: jwilkerson
...Andrew and I certainly always have maintained a professional relationship with Sid - and we have never stopped.

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ORIGINAL: JWE

Well, so long as we are in the mode of honoring people who did not contribute to AE, but who have contributed to the wealth of information pertaining to the game and who informed the thought processes of the team members; I have some candidates. Others may have additional candidates, and my list is sparse. Many others should be included, but apart from certain AE team members (already mentioned), this is my personal top-o-the-walk.

m10bob
local yokel

Bless you and all who sail in you.

John

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ORIGINAL: JWE

Well, so long as we are in the mode of honoring people who did not contribute to AE, but who have contributed to the wealth of information pertaining to the game and who informed the thought processes of the team members; I have some candidates. Others may have additional candidates, and my list is sparse. Many others should be included, but apart from certain AE team members (already mentioned), this is my personal top-o-the-walk.

m10bob
local yokel

Bless you and all who sail in you.

John

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ORIGINAL: Terminus

Speak for yourself, I did it for the enormous paycheck, the expense account, the Bugatti Veyron and, of course, to get chicks.

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ORIGINAL: jwilkerson

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ORIGINAL: Buck Beach

I am so complied to ask this question with a preface. I am such a fan of El Cid and his game contributions, that have mostly gone unrecognized by the community. I know he is dogmatic, opinionated, argumentative, non-flexible and I am sure there was no way he could have ever worked with a team effort such as AE and in fact he was prone to just pissing people off along the way. In fact many of the people mentioned as contributors to AE, went out of their way to ridicule him along the way.

But you know what guys although he followed his own path without and any recognition or encouragement, he (with Cobra's map help) did develop quite a few different workable concepts . And now guess what, he is working on a real life game between the Chinese and Formosa.

And now the question. Isn't there any way you can throw this dedicated WITP gamer a bone here as a contributor if not just for some of his ideas .

First, let me say I am glad to hear Sid is doing well. When people of our generation don't show up on the forum for awhile I get worried.

As to my history with Sid, ok, here goes a brief summary:

When Sid showed up on the forum in late 2005 (Nov IIRC) I saw his energy and interest. Among the projects Andrew had asked me to work on for CHS was a redo of the Japanese air OOB. Sid and I began discussing this - and I decided to give him a shot at it. By Feb 06 it was clear that the vision of what Sid was trying to achieve did not match up with the vision CHS was trying to achieve. There is nothing wrong with that. But in discussing "what to do next" - I mentioned that one option would be for Sid to do his own mod - and perhaps he could call it "RHS". I'm not sure I was serious with the name idea - more the spirit of how he was thinking - but he decided to adopt the name and go forth - nothing wrong with that either. Sid's separation from CHS had nothing to do with any "behavior" issues one way or the other. It was strictly a difference in artistic vision - and the Sid CHS split is not the only such split I've been involved in with this community - nothing unique - people feel strongly about certain things - and that is what makes life interesting!

From that point forward, Sid would contact Andrew or I when he had an issue. Andrew would answer the map issues I would look things up in the code for him. When Sid would quote an "anonymous Matrix programmer" - I assume he usually - if not always was referring to me. But Andrew and I certainly always have maintained a professional relationship with Sid - and we have never stopped.

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I felt oblidged to step into the AFB role to keep reminding folks that there would be TWO sides playing the game when it was released. The "Loyal Opposition" as it were.

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ORIGINAL: InHarmsWay

I dont post often but reading this thread really drove home the sacrifice this whole group of gentlemen made for this game. Saying you will accomplish a 1+ year goal and actually working 3+ years to do so, while dealing with an online peanut gallery to say nothing of personal life committments is remarkable. No matter what the individual accomplishment, being a part of the team that pulled this together has got to be a great feeling. I just have to say thanks to all of you!

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ORIGINAL: TheElf

To be fair we only dealt with an online peanut gallery for a about a year and a half...though it feels longer.

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ORIGINAL: Andy Mac

Oh yes....

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ORIGINAL: Andy Mac

Oh yes....