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Bart_Breedyk -> Amphib assaults too easy? (7/24/2009 2:45:20 PM)

I've always been interested in the sort of 'grand strategy' wargame that Time of Wrath falls into so I didn't hesitate (long) before getting myself a copy. I started a new grand campaign as Germany with everything set to default levels except for a few graphics preferences. Thus far things have gone remarkably well for the Germans; Poland, France, The Netherlands, Belgium and Luxembourg have all fallen. Denmark and Norway have capitulated without a shot being fired. Hungary, Slovakia, Romania, Italy and Spain have all joined the Axis and Russia hasn't declared war on me yet. So in the Fall of 1940 I find myself on the West Coast of France wanting to invade Britain. After a month or more of moving, upgrading and replenishing units I attempt the invasion. Having no idea how to do this within the mechanics of the game I had a few false starts but eventually a surface force of some 16 German warships escort an expeditionary force of 2 Infantry Corps, 1 Armoured Corps and one Armoured Division across the channel to invade Portsmouth. Two turns later the deed was done and German convoys were entering Portsmouth harbour with both supplies and reinforcements. Apart from some casualties on the landings, these are the only losses they suffered before Portsmouth fell. The British Navy, which had sunk two small amphibious forays earlier, never even contested the channel crossing. The British airforce, which had been a very real and very potent thorn in my side in the battle for France, never even put in an appearance and were destroyed by German armour on the ground South of Edinburgh.

So I'm wondering if I've just been extraordinarily lucky or has anyone else noticed this? I realize that I'm playing the AI here and that a game against a human opponent might be something completely different, but I expected things to be a bit more difficult than what I've seen so far. Perhaps I will try a new game with a higher difficulty setting.




doomtrader -> RE: Amphib assaults too easy? (7/24/2009 6:00:49 PM)

We will try to teach AI how to do defend coasts.




PDiFolco -> RE: Amphib assaults too easy? (7/24/2009 8:28:45 PM)

Hmmm, I don't have the game, but what bothers me more than the AI is how could Germany supply anything serious through the Channel ???
Did you eradicate the RAF and then the RN to get supply flowing ? THAT should be the main difficulty - and that's definitely why neither Napoleon nor Hitler invaded England... OTOH if the game allows 'magical' supply through any port without need for ships, it's seriously broken...




Anraz -> RE: Amphib assaults too easy? (7/24/2009 8:44:36 PM)

Without ships (ST) a player cannot supply its units oversea :)






PDiFolco -> RE: Amphib assaults too easy? (7/24/2009 8:53:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Anraz

Without ships (ST) a player cannot supply its units oversea :)




Nice. Then it's not that amazing for the Germans to crush England once landed and with German sea control : the British land army would have been easily beaten by the Wehrmacht imho, they had very few men/units.




willgamer -> RE: Amphib assaults too easy? (7/24/2009 10:50:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Barticus

Denmark and Norway have capitulated without a shot being fired.


I've always had to fight for them, esp. Norway. How did you do that?


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ORIGINAL: Barticus

Hungary, Slovakia, Romania, Italy and Spain have all joined the


Was this by clever diplomacy? How did you do that, too. [:D]




Gloo -> RE: Amphib assaults too easy? (7/25/2009 12:26:55 AM)


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ORIGINAL: PDiFolco

...the RAF (...) that's definitely why Napoleon...


Pascal, didn't you make a typo there ? [:D]




PDiFolco -> RE: Amphib assaults too easy? (7/25/2009 1:05:06 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Gloo


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ORIGINAL: PDiFolco

...the RAF (...) that's definitely why Napoleon...


Pascal, didn't you make a typo there ? [:D]



No mon ami, the sentence is "RAF and RN"... The latter existed. But I admit the sentence is a bit uncorrect...

BTW, just bought the game, nice but it crashed on turn 4 of my Fall Weiss first game, bleh.. [:(]





Bleck -> RE: Amphib assaults too easy? (7/25/2009 1:17:49 AM)

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ORIGINAL: PDiFolco
just bought the game, nice but it crashed on turn 4 of my Fall Weiss first game, bleh..

If this will happen again after loading Autosave, please deliver ConsoleOut.txt and archived Autosave folder. Tech support thread is the best place for it.




Gloo -> RE: Amphib assaults too easy? (7/25/2009 1:23:58 AM)


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ORIGINAL: PDiFolco
BTW, just bought the game, nice but it crashed on turn 4 of my Fall Weiss first game, bleh.. [:(]


Got the same problem, twice !

P.S. : it was just a "pique"... [;)]




PDiFolco -> RE: Amphib assaults too easy? (7/25/2009 11:05:58 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Gloo


quote:

ORIGINAL: PDiFolco
BTW, just bought the game, nice but it crashed on turn 4 of my Fall Weiss first game, bleh.. [:(]


Got the same problem, twice !

P.S. : it was just a "pique"... [;)]


Luckily there's an autosave ...

Bleck,
Re the console log, it doesn't say much, even after translating the polish text [:D], will post in Techie forum if it happens again [:'(]




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