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Charles2222 -> (6/3/2002 6:58:52 PM)
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gmenfan: Yeah, you know if it's a crusty veteran of SPWAW you're talking to, something's amiss.
Here's the situation in a bit more detail. Once the situation ot so super-screwy I saved it, but of course the condition of the save was not that way throughout what I described.
Smoke: If there is any smoke that would block LOS, it would've been with the one I was spotting most of the time that was destroyed first. None of the units, including the 2 late T34s had anything blocking LOS. You know how sometimes you'll get the entrenched sandbags so you'll know there at least a unit there at one time? Well before the 2nd PZIVE was spotted for that brief spat, the sandbags weren't even showing up either.
Distance: At the time of the save, though I did mention there was a tank in the hex, the save is just after that. Later, I put another tank in there, so I have two different saves, though the latter one I'm playing and will be copied over before long. As of the first save, there is none in the same hex, but two are within 1 hex, and 3 within 2 hexes. BTW, one adjacent one is on higher ground, while the others are on the same level as both PZIVEs are/were.
Ratings: Adjacent tanks - tank1 - exp 71, mor 87, supp 20, men 5, damage 1 - tank2 - exp 69, mor 41, supp 0, men 5, damage 0 .
Other tanks 2 hexes away - tank1 - exp 68, mor 78, supp 0, men 5, damage 0 (command tank too) - tank2 - exp 63, mor 40, supp 6, men 5, damage 1 - tank3(the only T34) - exp 71, mor 69, supp 10, men 4, damage 0.
Terrain: Mixed, sloped, with no covering features such as craters. All but one unit can see both hexes, but all were able to earlier. It's just that the hex with the shown destroyed PZIVE that one unit cannot presently see.
Visibility Factors: 26 with clear weather. Time 1700.
This isn't a scenario, it's just the standard WWII campaign I almost always play. I'm very inexperienced in playing in this manner, and it shouldn't matter, in that it's maybe only my 2nd battle as the USSR in 6/41 against GE. I've played the reverse quite a few times (as GE in 6/41 against the USSR), and I never got any uber-units in support. Maybe the very best was 85 experience, and usually they're between 60-75 for GE. The only thing that might approach explaining this was if the PZIVE in question had something ridiculous like a 200 rating.
I'll tell you something else that's screwy that's going on, though there's probably an easy explanation for it. For what that turn has discovered to date, it looks to me as though someone has reprogrammed AI mine placement. Hex 47,1 has 47,1 mined along with probably 48,1, though this is unknown, alongside 49,1 and 50,1 being mined. That's probably 4 in a row not quite at the edge. The extreme opposite southern portion of the map saw the following: Hex 48,39 was mined. This is the one my Cossacks ran into, and over much time cleared. 4 hexes due east I doscovered another mine. This latter hex, 52,39 is what you'd basically call the one of the hexes forming the general minebelt of the entire battlefield. That is the 'bottom' hex row. I didn't explore the extreme north too well either, but it's strange how it appears that the next to the top row up north is 4 hex deep with mines, while the very bottom may be the same. From what I recall, because by turn 25 a number of them had been cleared in places there was a double minebelt. As a general rule, I've always realized that the minefield never started before row 50, but I enjoyed not trying to remember where it might precisely be, by forgetting where the enemy deployment lines were, but I don't think row 48 is possible for enemy mining and there it was.
Other little oddities, and this may come mostly from my infamiliarity with playing against GE, but I'm pretty sure I've spotted at least 75% of his force, and I've only ran into the two PZIVEs armor-wise. What's more, there have been a slew of ski troops as the main infantry. Combine that with the fact that this is Barbarossa time, 6/41, and that I'm the one assaulting, and it was GE, not me, who got to select air support (and then he goes and selects those stupid HS123s).
Now I'm wondering what the 7/41 battle will bring....
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