Don Bowen -> RE: Manual inconsistency (8/18/2009 3:33:54 PM)
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ORIGINAL: erstad Posted this earlier but I never saw a response so i don't know if it's WAD (but wrong in the manual) or bugged. The manual says loading and unloaded are governed by the same rates. However, resource centers appear to assist the loading daily rate, but not the unloading daily rate. Ran a test twice to confirm this (no other port activity). In Toyohara I can load 4*4670 cargo freighters in one turn. However, in the unloading only 11250 (port 3 limit) resources unload. Interestingly, the boost on the item load rate appears to apply to both. Load rate should only be 3*200 (per phase), but I can both load and unload a 4670 in a 1 day turn. So the resource centers appear to be boosting both item load and item unload rates, but only load daily limit. Bit confused by this. The design consideration was to consider oil/resource/refinery centers to have their own loading and unloading facilities. The intent was to allow a large refinery in a small port to load/unload based on refinery size, not port size. That way we did not have to falsely increase port size for a specific facility. There really is no daily load limit. There is a daily port cargo handling limit - which can be expended by a combination of loading or unloading operations. A refinery (for example), increases all three (load rate, unload rate, daily limit). But the total for load and unload can only equal the daily limit. Does that make sense? If not, post a specific example and a save and I'll trace it through the code Don, sorry, can't post a save but may be worth mentioning this has been the subject of some discussion in the War Room's Resource Pathways thread. It's the daily port cargo handling limit with which we are concerned. Fully understand that resources, oil and refineries can boost load/unload rates and daily limit, but the example erstad gives indicates that Toyohara is receiving that boost to its daily limit for loading operations but not for unloading ops. Toyohara is a good example for this purpose because, as erstad says, without the boost, it has a daily port cargo handling limit of 11250, whereas, if the boost is applied, that nearly doubles to 21650, by my calculations. There may be good reason to think that no one is ever going to want to offload big quantities of resources at Toyohara, but all the big ports in the Home Islands get such an increase in their daily port cargo handling limits (albeit a more modest one), and this could make a difference to efficient import of oil, fuel and resources. HTH. OK, I think I understand the point here (much aided by a second cup of coffee). Yes, the daily capacity limit is increased only for loading. This assumes that a refinery, for example, has a loading terminal whose purpose is to load fuel onto tankers for transport. It is capable of unloading fuel as well, but that requires some reconfiguration of the pumps and temporarily disables the ability to load. Sorry to be dense, all this was done quite a while ago and is not currently in the active memory portion of my fog encrusted brain. I think a case could be made for changing this in any of several possible ways. 1. Eliminate the unload rate bonus - the facilities were primary for load. 2. Reduce the unload rate bonus to a fraction of the load rate bonus. 3. Provide full unload capacity increase 4. Leave it as it is. #4 looks pretty good to me, being busy, lazy, and all.
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