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Speedysteve -> RE: upgrade question (8/25/2009 10:09:06 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Speedy

Seems like some ships have more ammo than their max allows in the Aleutians Scenario anyhow.....?

[image]local://upfiles/4211/C719454DB6C941C698B035EB87639AAC.jpg[/image]


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m10bob -> RE: oob question (8/25/2009 12:14:47 PM)

These ships were bound for the theatre since 11/41..

http://www.cofepow.org.uk/pages/ships_convoy_william_sail.htm



Cavalry Corp -> RE: oob question (8/25/2009 12:25:28 PM)

In Guadal Canal scn I also have allied ships starting with more ammo than the brackets which i assume is the maximum. I also have some CA I think loaded with less 8 inch shells

cav



JWE -> RE: oob question (8/25/2009 2:51:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TIMJOT

Thanks Don, I believe the 70th Pursuit squadron and ground elements of the 7th BG were also embarked. Does this mean that the Johnson may be included in the next oob update? Also sources say that "a" President Garfield left with the President Johnson (albeit separately) with reinforcements for USAFFE as well. Now the old Garfield became the Madison and that we know was in the proximity of the PI when war broke out. So I assume that it must be the C3-A President Garfield prior being taken over by the navy and renamed President Jefferson, but in the game the President Jefferson doesnt enter the game until March 42 at Balboa. So I guess I am a bit confused. Any clarification?


Hi TIMJOT. The Garfield is the SS President Garfield, a C3-A-P&C, built for American President Lines, 1941. After PH she had 2 additional voyage charters for the Navy in the Pacific and returned to the Atlantic in January, 1942. In April, 1942, she began Navalization conversion to an AP at Newport News SB & DD Co. Officially acquired by the Navy, May, 1, 1942. Completed conversion and commissioned USS Thomas Jefferson (AP-60), August, 1942. Transited the canal to return to Pacific service, September, 1942.



TIMJOT -> RE: oob question (8/25/2009 4:46:45 PM)

Thanks Don great info, BTW what happen to all those wonderful at sea merchant shipping that were in CHS? I thought it was one of the best features of CHS. Any reason they were not included in AE? Also, because I know you like this stuff here is an interesting link that confirms anecdotally that at least part of the ground echelon for the 19th BG were embarked on the Pres.Johnson.http://www.ww2pacific.com/johnson.html



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ORIGINAL: Don Bowen


As far as I can tell, the army ships are sea were:
Transports Etolin, Tasker H Bliss, President Johnson, and President Garfield - enroute Hawaii from West Coast.
Luriline, enroute West Coast from Hawaii
Hugh L Scott and President Coolidge returning West Coast from Philippines
Republic and W.A. Holbrook enroute Philippines in the Pensacola Convoy

Freighters Cynthia Olson, Malama, Jupiter, and Montgomery City enroute Hawaii from West Coast (not sure of destination for last two)
Ludington enroute Philippines via Christmas and Canton Islands and then the Torres Strait.
Bloemfontein and Meigs in the Pensacola Convoy
Mauna Loa, Portmar and Jane Christenson, destinations unknown but probably Philippines. Diverted to Australia.
James (or John?) Lykes enroute Hawaii from Philippines, having been part of Boise Convoy. Diverted to Cebu, then NEI. Not sure, may have been voyage chartered and charter expired upon unload in Manila.






pad152 -> RE: oob question (8/26/2009 6:19:50 AM)

Campaign 2

Japanese type SS class (1981) Subs have no torpedoes only a 25mm gun!

Editor Ships Ha-101 - Ha-112 (1003 -1014)

Same with the YU class (1985) subs, no torpedoes

Editor Ships Yu-01 - Yu-10 (1015-1024)


Same with the Type D1 class (1965) Subs, no torpedoes

Editor Ships I- 361 -373 (1187 - 1199)





Iron Duke -> RE: oob question (8/26/2009 8:12:46 AM)

they mav be transport subs - torpedo tubes removed to carry more cargo - to isolated garrisons?



Dili -> RE: oob question (8/26/2009 10:19:41 AM)

Maybe this could help. List and photos of some Shell ships, some captured by Japanese:

http://www.cnooks.nl/shell.htm and http://www.cnooks.nl/



pad152 -> RE: oob question (8/26/2009 6:05:49 PM)

moved to land oob!



JWE -> RE: oob question (8/26/2009 8:35:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: pad152
Campaign 2
Japanese type SS class (1981) Subs have no torpedoes only a 25mm gun!
Editor Ships Ha-101 - Ha-112 (1003 -1014)
Same with the YU class (1985) subs, no torpedoes
Editor Ships Yu-01 - Yu-10 (1015-1024)
Same with the Type D1 class (1965) Subs, no torpedoes
Editor Ships I- 361 -373 (1187 - 1199)

All campaign games.
Certain subs upgrading/converting to transport subs (SST) in the game, have their torpedoes removed.
If that doesn't work for you, then don't upgrade/convert.
Torpedoes or Transport - it's your choice.



pad152 -> RE: oob question (8/26/2009 10:07:33 PM)

Beta v1083c

Campaign 2

Ship Mogami  077 has 2 sets of aircraft, arigroups (659 + 650 & 752 + 753)!



Bongo -> RE: oob question (8/26/2009 10:16:35 PM)

The New Zealand light cruisers in scenario 6 have Ensigns in charge. Using Beta v1083c.



JWE -> RE: oob question (8/26/2009 11:08:27 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Bongo
The New Zealand light cruisers in scenario 6 have Ensigns in charge. Using Beta v1083c.

If you don't like the leaders, try doing this:
click on the ship;
click on the leader;
look at the list;
select whatever leader you want.
save.



Terminus -> RE: oob question (8/26/2009 11:14:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: JWE


quote:

ORIGINAL: pad152
Campaign 2
Japanese type SS class (1981) Subs have no torpedoes only a 25mm gun!
Editor Ships Ha-101 - Ha-112 (1003 -1014)
Same with the YU class (1985) subs, no torpedoes
Editor Ships Yu-01 - Yu-10 (1015-1024)
Same with the Type D1 class (1965) Subs, no torpedoes
Editor Ships I- 361 -373 (1187 - 1199)

All campaign games.
Certain subs upgrading/converting to transport subs (SST) in the game, have their torpedoes removed.
If that doesn't work for you, then don't upgrade/convert.
Torpedoes or Transport - it's your choice.


And some are BUILT as SSTs, because that's what happened historically. You can always decide not to build them, but the data is correct and will not be changed.



rjopel -> RE: oob question (8/27/2009 12:42:02 AM)


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ORIGINAL: m10bob

These ships were bound for the theatre since 11/41..

http://www.cofepow.org.uk/pages/ships_convoy_william_sail.htm


TF 422 carrying the 16th UK Div arriving from off map.



Bongo -> RE: oob question (8/27/2009 2:20:25 AM)


Thanks, I know how to do that. It wastes PPs and seems like a date base error. I was under the illusion that this was a place to report errors.



Blackhorse -> RE: oob question (8/27/2009 2:36:07 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Bongo

The New Zealand light cruisers in scenario 6 have Ensigns in charge. Using Beta v1083c.



You'll want leader 17196 (Roskill) for Leander, and 17192 (Parry) on Achilles. I'll try to slip it into a future patch. [;)]



Bongo -> RE: oob question (8/27/2009 5:18:15 AM)

Thanks. I appreciate the response. [&o]
quote:

ORIGINAL: Blackhorse


quote:

ORIGINAL: Bongo

The New Zealand light cruisers in scenario 6 have Ensigns in charge. Using Beta v1083c.



You'll want leader 17196 (Roskill) for Leander, and 17192 (Parry) on Achilles. I'll try to slip it into a future patch. [;)]




oldman45 -> RE: oob question (8/27/2009 5:32:32 AM)

The Hermes losses its air group and there are no free FAA squadrons around. I also don't see any coming in the pool.



Speedysteve -> RE: upgrade question (8/27/2009 9:09:26 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Speedy


quote:

ORIGINAL: Speedy

Seems like some ships have more ammo than their max allows in the Aleutians Scenario anyhow.....?

[image]local://upfiles/4211/C719454DB6C941C698B035EB87639AAC.jpg[/image]


Bump[:)]


Bump de bump[;)]



ny59giants -> Loading Supply (8/27/2009 2:37:54 PM)

This issue may have been asked and answered, but in the "future," will you be able to regulate how much supply you load unto your transports?? I plan to play 2 day turns in at least one PBEM game as Japan. After I load my troops and cargo on my transports, the rest will automatically be filled with supplies. I would like to be able to regulate that amount in increments of 1000. If there is a way to regulate the amount of supply being loaded now, please share it with me.



Don Bowen -> RE: Loading Supply (8/27/2009 3:02:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ny59giants

This issue may have been asked and answered, but in the "future," will you be able to regulate how much supply you load unto your transports?? I plan to play 2 day turns in at least one PBEM game as Japan. After I load my troops and cargo on my transports, the rest will automatically be filled with supplies. I would like to be able to regulate that amount in increments of 1000. If there is a way to regulate the amount of supply being loaded now, please share it with me.


I'd like to have this too. This feature, and a number of others, was considered. It would be a mark one, left handed bitch to do. Adding base daily cargo handling capacity to the calculations proved unexpectedly difficult and generated an embarrassing number of bugs. Adding another level of control would be exponentially more so. Sorry to say it's probably going to have to wait for a major rewrite or until the famous WITP II.




JWE -> RE: Loading Supply (8/27/2009 3:04:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ny59giants
This issue may have been asked and answered, but in the "future," will you be able to regulate how much supply you load unto your transports?? I plan to play 2 day turns in at least one PBEM game as Japan. After I load my troops and cargo on my transports, the rest will automatically be filled with supplies. I would like to be able to regulate that amount in increments of 1000. If there is a way to regulate the amount of supply being loaded now, please share it with me.

Nope. Incremental loading isn't going to fly either; ships have capacities from 80 to 7000 and everything in between. After you have loaded your troops and are in the middle of loading supply, you could just cast off early. [;)]

Pooh, Don beat me to it again.



ny59giants -> RE: Loading Supply (8/27/2009 3:09:14 PM)

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Pooh, Don beat me to it again.


You just need to get a larger needle for your IV Caffiene drip. [:D]



Speedysteve -> RE: upgrade question (8/28/2009 9:42:03 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Speedy


quote:

ORIGINAL: Speedy


quote:

ORIGINAL: Speedy

Seems like some ships have more ammo than their max allows in the Aleutians Scenario anyhow.....?

[image]local://upfiles/4211/C719454DB6C941C698B035EB87639AAC.jpg[/image]


Bump[:)]


Bump de bump[;)]


Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmpppppppppppp



Speedysteve -> RE: upgrade question (8/28/2009 9:42:31 AM)

Post patch.

Guad scenario.

CVE Chenango arriving without air groups. WAD?



JWE -> RE: upgrade question (8/28/2009 9:25:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Speedy
Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmpppppppppppp

Sheesh, yeah, ok. 2 kinds of scenarios; the campaigns and the smaller, directed ones. Sometimes a global class fix for the campaigns comes through, and the Guad, Alaska, Coral Sea guys may not pick up on it. Lookin at stuff, that's just wha hoppen here.

If you are a 'perfectionist", I can show ya how to tweak the db to make everything just ducky. Otherwise, why not just deal with it. It don't hurt, and the first ammo rearm puts everything back to where it ought to go. The scenario designers are aware of this, but it's one of those 'restart' things so maybe tomorrow. Not something worth breaking anybody's bones over. Ciao.



JWE -> RE: upgrade question (8/28/2009 9:27:58 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Speedy
Post patch.

Guad scenario.

CVE Chenango arriving without air groups. WAD?

Looked at the db and the Chenango a/g for scen004 have delay set to 9999, so obviously, their non apperance is WAD.



Pascal_slith -> RE: upgrade question (8/28/2009 11:05:36 PM)

I'm surprised at some 'testy' responses on both sides....

Also, though, if you don't give enough time for a response (5 days is probably a rational amount), don't bump. These guys are doing their best and are as dedicated as you are.

It's hot enough as it is (I'm in Southern California), so my suggestion is to get a nice large ice cube filled glass of iced tea before responding...[:)]



mikemike -> RE: upgrade question (8/29/2009 3:17:45 AM)

PUBLIC BETA:

The Ironman Scenario contains a Mogami class and a Tone class CA both named "Asama". You might rename one of them, perhaps to "Aso".

Also, Ship Class 2025, Kongo Maru AMC, has Wpn 3 and Wpn 4 both on the RIGHT side. One of them should probably be on the LEFT side.



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