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Armorer -> Skip bombing? Don't think so. (6/6/2002 3:53:46 AM)
Greetings, I've been meaning to post on this for a while, but have been hoping to figure it out myself. I have several level bomber squadrons in PM ( B25Js, A20Gs, B26Bs ); minimum experience for these groups is 85. I set the altitude for 100', and mission is Naval Attack. They'll intercept and attack enemy TFs, during which they will strafe the hell out of them. Not once, in 9 months of game play, have they ever bombed an enemy ship. I get 50cal hits out the ***, but never any bomb hits. Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong? I've read the manual several times looking for an answer, but have not yet found one. Any help is appreciated. Regards, Randy

Didz -> (6/6/2002 5:17:35 AM)
[QUOTE]Originally posted by dgaad [B] Your pilots will not skip bomb at all if their experience is under a certain point. Or, they will skip bomb that their bombs will miss by such a wide margin that you won't even see the geyser signalling a miss. Planes will skip bomb at 100' and you will see geysers indicating a near miss. Unless, however, the experience of the pilot is over 70 and they have not been damaged by flak, its unlikely you will see a hit. [/B][/QUOTE] So assuming your pilots exp is 70+ how much more effective is skip bombing. I thought the sides of a ship were more heavily armoured than the decks.

Sultanofsham -> Re: Skip bombing? Don't think so. (6/6/2002 5:32:04 AM)
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Armorer [B]Greetings, I've been meaning to post on this for a while, but have been hoping to figure it out myself. I have several level bomber squadrons in PM ( B25Js, A20Gs, B26Bs ); minimum experience for these groups is 85. I set the altitude for 100', and mission is Naval Attack. They'll intercept and attack enemy TFs, during which they will strafe the hell out of them. Not once, in 9 months of game play, have they ever bombed an enemy ship. I get 50cal hits out the ***, but never any bomb hits. Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong? I've read the manual several times looking for an answer, but have not yet found one. Any help is appreciated. Regards, Randy [/B][/QUOTE] Yep, I finished one of the long campaigns and never did see a bomb drop at 100 feet, just a whole lot of MG fire even though most of the pilots were above 70 exp. Like spooky said set the alt to 1000 feet and kiss whatever they attack goodbye.

Spooky -> (6/6/2002 5:50:45 AM)
I have the feeling that skip bombing (100') is really not effective compared with low level bombing (1000') since : - it needs much more experimented bomber squadrons - the losses due to flak are quite high What do you think ? Spooky PS : I never managed to do a lot of hits with skip bombing but maybe my squads were not exp. enough :(

Armorer -> (6/6/2002 6:18:11 AM)
I already have my LBA anti-shipping squadrons set for 1000'. I keep one set at 100', just in case the skip-bombing ever decides to kick in. And, of course, you're correct - I seem to get plenty of hits from 1000'. I guess I'm just greedy, and want to see if skip-bombing is even more effective. Thanks for your input, nice to know I'm not the only one who can't get it to work. Randy

bradfordkay -> now many of us are running into the Japanese CV super-TF? (6/6/2002 10:29:07 AM)
I'm playing the Operation MO scenario (#7?) which does not mention an ahistorical OOB, though I did choose variable reinforcements. This is my second scenario (the first I played was the 15 day Coral Sea scenario). It is late June '42 and I am now facing a TF of (at least) Kaga, Akagi, Soryu, Ryujo and Junyo (all those have been identified by my search aircraft). At first I felt that seeing three new carriers in the area was reasonable, being as in May my forces sank the Shokaku and Shoho for sure and probably sank the Zuikaku (no confirmation of that yet). My PM a/c managed to hit the Hiryu enough that the Lexington/Yorktown groups finished her off about June 8, but now there seems to be every Japanese carrier in existence heading for PM. Because of this topic being discussed here, I am concerned that EVERY game played against the AI is going to develop into this situation of trying to crack the super TF. Is this what the rest of you (playing as the US) are experiencing, or does it only occur some of the time? The replayability of the game is in serious danger if it always develops into the fight against the super TF.

Didz -> Re: now many of us are running into the Japanese CV super-TF? (6/6/2002 3:43:06 PM)
[QUOTE]Originally posted by bradfordkay [B]I am concerned that EVERY game played against the AI is going to develop into this situation of trying to crack the super TF. Is this what the rest of you (playing as the US) are experiencing, or does it only occur some of the time? The replayability of the game is in serious danger if it always develops into the fight against the super TF. [/B][/QUOTE] My expereince so far is limited to #17 Allies but I must admit that after my 7th attempt there is a definite SUPER CV TF pattern emerging. The AI certainly likes to keep its CV's together if not in one TF then in one hex and it tries to force a direct face off between this Super CV TF and the your Carriers as quickly as possible. The designers will no doubt point out that this is the best strategy for the IJN to follow but it does make for very predictable gameplay by the AI and if successful a very short game. One glimmer of hope for the USN player is that this Super CV TF can only be in one place at a time. Unfortunately, this is benefit is reduced by the fact that the IJN operate on interior lines during #17 and so the AI can move its CV's quckly from one perimeter to the other. So major operations like invasions are bound to attract their attention. So far the AI seems content to keep it on the fringes of my LBA umbrella (unlike my own CV's that charge Rabaul as soon as I turn on 'React to enemy'.) so it has not used its Super CV TF directly against any of my major bases. If it did I would probably be in real trouble. But it would be nice to get a few shots at it with LBA.

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