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ORIGINAL: Yamato_Hugger

I'm someone who gives this game a 9.5/10. But I was rather disappointed to find how few scenarios came with the game. Infact that was the only thing I was really disappointed at. I don't know i'm probably alone in my views [:'(]

The may '42 scenario would be nice to have back. It would actually improve the game overall, especially in terms of replay value. Sometimes starting in 1941 is just to tedious of an undertaking and it becomes rather mundane and repetative. It's all a pre-defined track, basically. Sometimes you just have no motive to do it and you find yourself wanting to start when the real battles begin. The battles that aren't completely one sided. And where it isn't just inevitable captures and victories by Japan of all the same places as 50 times before that you can read in every AAR ever written.

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ORIGINAL: waynec

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ORIGINAL: Yamato_Hugger

I'm someone who gives this game a 9.5/10. But I was rather disappointed to find how few scenarios came with the game. Infact that was the only thing I was really disappointed at. I don't know i'm probably alone in my views [:'(]

The may '42 scenario would be nice to have back. It would actually improve the game overall, especially in terms of replay value. Sometimes starting in 1941 is just to tedious of an undertaking and it becomes rather mundane and repetative. It's all a pre-defined track, basically. Sometimes you just have no motive to do it and you find yourself wanting to start when the real battles begin. The battles that aren't completely one sided. And where it isn't just inevitable captures and victories by Japan of all the same places as 50 times before that you can read in every AAR ever written.

i am also disappointed in the number of smaller scenarios missing in ae that were in WitP. i don't have the time or focus to play a campaign game from '41 on. i really enjoyed the may42-feb43 scenarioin WitP. also liked coral sea staring from noumera.
is it possible to start a game ai vs ai and stop it at a certain point and change to us human vs japanese ai (like you can in TOAW3). doesn't look like it from a quick test. too bad. i could play campaign from dec-may42 and then take over as the allies.

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ORIGINAL: steveh11Matrix

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ORIGINAL: waynec

i am also disappointed in the number of smaller scenarios missing in ae that were in WitP. i don't have the time or focus to play a campaign game from '41 on. i really enjoyed the may42-feb43 scenarioin WitP. also liked coral sea staring from noumera.
is it possible to start a game ai vs ai and stop it at a certain point and change to us human vs japanese ai (like you can in TOAW3). doesn't look like it from a quick test. too bad. i could play campaign from dec-may42 and then take over as the allies.

My understanding from the original WitP is that it's certainly possible, but that the situation when you take over will be different from the historical May 1942. Note also that the ai doesn't quite play by the same rules as the player does - Andy could tell you more here. Again in the original, base forces would expand, for example.

But it certainly used to be possible, if you allow for and accept the above. I used to do it often, 'roleplaying' that I'd been brought in to command after the disasters of December to April... [;)] But back then part of the reason for waiting until May was that it was the earliest the British could upgrade their air units. This isn't the case any more.

Steve.

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ORIGINAL: waynec

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ORIGINAL: steveh11Matrix

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ORIGINAL: waynec

i am also disappointed in the number of smaller scenarios missing in ae that were in WitP. i don't have the time or focus to play a campaign game from '41 on. i really enjoyed the may42-feb43 scenarioin WitP. also liked coral sea staring from noumera.
is it possible to start a game ai vs ai and stop it at a certain point and change to us human vs japanese ai (like you can in TOAW3). doesn't look like it from a quick test. too bad. i could play campaign from dec-may42 and then take over as the allies.

My understanding from the original WitP is that it's certainly possible, but that the situation when you take over will be different from the historical May 1942. Note also that the ai doesn't quite play by the same rules as the player does - Andy could tell you more here. Again in the original, base forces would expand, for example.

But it certainly used to be possible, if you allow for and accept the above. I used to do it often, 'roleplaying' that I'd been brought in to command after the disasters of December to April... [;)] But back then part of the reason for waiting until May was that it was the earliest the British could upgrade their air units. This isn't the case any more.

Steve.

i do understand it could be very different than how the actual war played out to that date. i would also look at it as coming in to take over after the previous commader in chief was "killed in a plane crash" or otherwise removed.


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OK yes you can do this and it will work but a few things I would recomend if you are going to do it.

I did this a lot when testing the late war AI btw its a lot of fun.

I assume you are proposing run the game AI v AI for 9 months and then take over at that point ? if yes I would recommend a list of house rules for yourself when doing it.

1. You will have a massive PP balance but the AI will in all liklihood have units that are restricted in unrestricted locations - the Ai doesnt use PP's and ignores restricted commands. So action 1 is spend your PP balance getting all units converted that need to be converted.

2. Depending on when you take over the AI may be below the Manchurian Garriosn level assuming you dont want the soviets active and are planning on taking over the Japanese side either mod the scenario to iuncrease thre Japanese strenght in Manchuria about 1500 points or plan on moving some forces overland from China into Manchuria immediately

3. Any unit you cannot or are unable to buy out with PP's moves to the least offensive location you can find and stays there often they can move to China overland replacing the forces you had to move into Manchuria.

4. Play PDU OFF the AI often ends up with some weird surpluses in aircraft because of the way upgrades work

5. When running the game AI v AI run it on historic difficulty level to minimise the AI only adjustments.

Do this and allow 2 - 3 weeks of turns to sort out what you inherit and its a great way to get a good game.

If taking over as the allies its a lot easier as the Allied AI doenst postion units as early as the Japanese AI as reaction forces

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ORIGINAL: SireChaos

A couple of additional smaller scenarios would also be nice. Midway, the Marianes, the Leyte campaign, Operation Olympic/Coronet...

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ORIGINAL: derhexer

Don't see much value in the 1000 Mile War N. Pacific scenario[:(]

Chris

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ORIGINAL: Mike Scholl

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ORIGINAL: derhexer

Don't see much value in the 1000 Mile War N. Pacific scenario[:(]

Chris

I think the "value" was that someone on the AE Design Team wanted to spend the time to do it. Remember, these are unpaid volunteers doing what was essentially a "labor of love".