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NightFlyer -> How do you get new AE aircraft types into game? (8/5/2009 9:50:50 PM)

I've been researching some new airplane types (new to AE) but how do I upgrade squadrons to use them? For example, if I select an A6M2 squadron and click on the Select Upgrade Path button (defaulted to Do Not Upgrade), I don't see the AC type A7M3-J Sam listed but the A7M2 is listed. Same applies to LB upgrades to jets (e.g. Kikka) etc. Does something automagically happen later in the game that lets me upgrade squadrons to the new AE aircraft types e.g. changes in aircraft reinforcment schedule?



eloso -> RE: How do you get new AE aircraft types into game? (8/5/2009 10:09:24 PM)

You can't upgrade to aircraft that you are researching for starters...

A factory must be producing them, there must be available aircraft in the pool, you have to be at a base with sufficient supply (20K) or within range of the unit's command HQ. Furthermore if you don't have PDU on, you're upgrade options are severly hampered.



NightFlyer -> RE: How do you get new AE aircraft types into game? (8/5/2009 10:13:26 PM)

Yeah I understant that, but I'm not even researching the A7M2, but it shows up in the upgrade path list and I do have PDU on...



pad152 -> RE: How do you get new AE aircraft types into game? (8/5/2009 10:55:29 PM)

Most aircraft types in the editor have a defined upgrade, some have multiple upgrade. Even with PDU on, you are limited by service (Army, Navy) and aircraft types (fighters, 2 engine bombers, torpedeo bomber, etc.) You can't upgrade a squadron until there are enough planes in the replacement pool.   



NightFlyer -> RE: How do you get new AE aircraft types into game? (8/5/2009 11:06:21 PM)

I don't want to deploy the aircraft now, I would just like to see it in the upgrade path list. I have not researched the A7M2 and have 0 of them, but it still appears in the Upgrade Path list. Here's a screenshot of the scenario (#2) and you can see the A6M3 upgrades to the A6M3a which is correct, but I'm not seeing it for the A7M3-J. Maybe the reinforcement squadrons appear with the latest model? (one would hope)

[image]http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/6672/zeron.jpg[/image]



eloso -> RE: How do you get new AE aircraft types into game? (8/5/2009 11:15:12 PM)

Ok, I just took this out of the editor manual for what the upgrade field means:

Upgrade is the aircraft type that this aircraft type will change over to (assuming the new aircraft type is
available). If set to 0, the unit will never upgrade. If any other number is entered, the device will use
that number as its first Upgrade; subsequent Upgrades may occur based on the Upgrade value for the
new aircraft.

The A7M3-J is in slot 622. The A7M2 comes right before it and the factory might upgrade to it, I don't know because I haven't played that far and it appears that some things have changed from WiTP as far as how the factories and upgrading works. I'm guessing that the only way it will appear in that list is if you have the A7M2 on map and in play. There also might be one group in the game scheduled to upgrade to this plane type but you don't have it on map yet. There were several aircraft like this in WiTP. Maybe one of the developers will have to elaborate on how this all works....



NightFlyer -> RE: How do you get new AE aircraft types into game? (8/5/2009 11:28:29 PM)

Yeah, I think we need the devs in on this one. It would be easier for me to plan long term aircraft development if the upgrade path listed all possible upgrade types for that aircraft and/or squadron. It seems only theA7M3-J Sam is missing from the Upgrade list for the Zero/Zeke fighter type. I'm not sure if there are other types, eg jets, rockets missing and I wants my rocket planes [:(] It would be a drag to get to 1944/45 and find out you can't deploy an aircraft you researched....



eloso -> RE: How do you get new AE aircraft types into game? (8/6/2009 12:22:35 AM)


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ORIGINAL: NightFlyer

Yeah, I think we need the devs in on this one. It would be easier for me to plan long term aircraft development if the upgrade path listed all possible upgrade types for that aircraft and/or squadron. The A6M8 is also missing for this Zero/Zeke example. I wants my rocket planes [:(]


I don't usually play Japan, but you might be better off investing your precious supply into 1942-43 aircraft at the beginning of the game rather than something that shows up in 1945-46. Getting those Tojos and Tonies out there fast will give you more of an edge IMO.



Terminus -> RE: How do you get new AE aircraft types into game? (8/6/2009 12:29:37 AM)

Correct. If you go into 45-46, the Japs aren't going to win.



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