RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik)

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jrcar -> RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) (11/15/2009 12:01:51 AM)
China Nth We are being pushed back everywhere :( Our counter at Nanyang almost succeeded... but the Japanese Arty caused havoc :( [image]local://upfiles/6237/205900CA348447C6972F043D094E74F0.jpg[/image]

jrcar -> RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) (11/15/2009 12:03:43 AM)
In the sth we are slowly being forced back, but they are mostly focussed on the nth so not as much action. Our forces are recovering and rebuilding. [image]local://upfiles/6237/21AC60BE275F42BDBD5811FA0C970F83.jpg[/image]

jrcar -> RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) (11/15/2009 12:24:06 AM)
1-2 April 1942 Burma Lashio falls. More forces arrive at Akyab. Java At Bandoeng the Japanese return to bombardmanets, casulties are light, and we are doing almost as much damge to them as they are to us. At Malang their bombardments cause light damage, but the airstrikes are taking their toll. The base is almost imoperable and we will try to more some air out, maybe to Makassar. DEI We continue to hit Dili from Darwin. Philippines Clark is now badly damaged. I'm slowly pulling forces back to Manila. Aim to defend the city below Manila and to the top right, but will give up clark this time. Supply are still an issue, another ship should arrive soon. Despite my earlier claims the second ship that arrived ended up sinking from a single 15kg bomb without transferring many supplies. Total supply is around 10-12k. But at least we are still producing more as we have the resources. This is one key advantage to keeping Manila and the resource hexes. We may last until the real world date of early May... SWPAC More forces arrive at Port Morseby via air and sea. We are now determined to try and hold it, in particular as KB is operating off Fiji so we can get more supply in (around 30k at the moment). The forts are almost at level 4, then we we build the airfield one more level and base in more fighters. SOPAC KB Appears off Suva and destroys a convoy that had just finished unloading two Marine Defence Bns (one for Nadi, one for Suva). Afternoon Air attack on Suva , at 132,160 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 15 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 37 B5N2 Kate x 72 D3A1 Val x 83 Allied aircraft F2A-3 Buffalo x 9 Morning Air attack on TF, near Suva at 132,160 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 15 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 8 B5N2 Kate x 40 D3A1 Val x 40 Allied aircraft F2A-3 Buffalo x 5 Japanese aircraft losses B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed, 9 damaged D3A1 Val: 6 damaged Allied Ships APD Manley, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage APD McKean APD Stringham, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk APD Colhoun, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAP Etolin, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage APD Gregory, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk AK Fomalhaut, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage APD Little, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed B5N2 Kate: 5 damaged D3A1 Val: 1 destroyed, 23 damaged Allied aircraft losses F2A-3 Buffalo: 1 destroyed Allied Ships APD Manley, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk APD McKean, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk APD Colhoun, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk AK Fomalhaut, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk The loss of the APD's in particular hurts, but at least the troops are ashore. More fighters for Fiji are on the way. They lost a number of aircraft in the attacks. PACIFIC The CV's and SCTF arrive in PH and disband to get their refits. NORPAC A BB SCTF slips from Dutch harbour now we know where both KB's are and will try to intercept the landing forces in the Kuriles... 3 BB 2 CA and DD's should do it... China Fairly quiet for the moment, as the Japanese forces move into position.

jrcar -> RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) (11/15/2009 3:23:42 AM)
3-4 Apr Our subs have been attacking the last month or so with no result, it occurs again, including missing a TK at the Shortlands! Bugger! Burma Oscars Sweep Akyab at 23-26k ft. We will look at bring up some Hurricanes, and maybe strike the base at Magwe which is where they probably are operating from, with B-17. Shwebo falls for no fight to part of the 33rd Div. Java Bombardments and bombing, not much we can do except cause delay. East DEI No real action, we continue to plough the fields of Dili with Marauders. Philippines They have bought in Netties to stop the shipping getting into the Philippines... this tactic works and they sink two ships during the turn :( They switch the air campaign to Manila, but cause little damage. SWPAC We plough mud at Lae and Buna. The rest of the 8th Marines and an Engineering bn (the tractors) should have arrived during the turn. The tractors in particular should really get PM moving. The Marines should bring the AV to over 400. 400 AV behind level 4 forts SHOULD stop anything but a 4 Div invasion.... SOPAC KB retires north. I recently have had about 6 S boats arrive in the area, and they are now deploying into every hex into and out of Tulagi, and into Shortlands. China The Japanese bombard waiting to mass forces to move forward again :( Analysis Overall a quiet turn. Our ships everywhere are going into the April upgrade cycle, which should last 5-16 days depending on ship. I'm now focussing on moving all available land units forward to Pearl. At the same time we are starting to get enough aircraft to really start sorting out our units and get them upgraded to what we want. In particular I want to move one bomb group from Hawaii forward to Fiji. But first need fighters (50 are on their way now). In the NORPAC I've freed up some Canadian Kittyhawks to help defend Adak/Dutch Harbour, and am starting to move forward the two engined strike aircraft. In India our air units are rested and starting to move to their operating bases. Cheers Rob

jrcar -> RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) (11/17/2009 2:53:58 AM)
5-6 Apr 1942 Subs Off the Shortlands the SS Porpoise gets a bang on an xAK and a PB. South of Japan a night surface engagement sees us hit two xAKL, but we loose a sub to return fire :( Burma Last turn was the start of the air war (Oscar sweep on Akyab, this turn was our reply :) Morning Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 11 minutes Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft B-17D Fortress x 7 B-17E Fortress x 4 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 destroyed on ground Japanese ground losses: 10 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Vehicles lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled) Allied aircraft B-17E Fortress x 8 No Allied losses Airbase hits 3 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 17 Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft B-17E Fortress x 6 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 destroyed on ground We will repeat next turn, with the addition of 60 Blenheim IV's and some Hurricane escorts. Java Bombardment at Bandoeng to little effect, and we defeat an assault at Malang. The forts drop to 2 but the attack is still 1:4 and the Japanese loose more casualties. The air is just about gone from Java now. We are pulling back and recovering remaining Dutch forces to help defend our hideaways in the DEI... Rest DEI Quiet Philippines the Hordes are advancing! The advance guard has been pulled back. Pulling back units from Clark to Manila, and focusing the defences. Supply is low. I expect to hold until the end of the month. It looks like this time they will attack in one spot only, I will try to keep forces forward to threaten the flanks. Our guys are fully prepped for Manila, in generally very good shape and ready for a fight... SWPAC The engineer dozers have arrived at PM. The forts are 6% from level 4. Will build up the airfield next. About 50AV of marines are coming ashore at the moment, to give over 400AV. need to move in more fighters. Still hitting Lae and Buna. The subs do well at Shortlands. Lots of subs around Tulagi. Large convoy in Shortands at the moment. Luganville is heading to level 3 forts and has 65AV. Will try to hold but not commit much more. Pacfic Lots of ships refitting, moving more forces from the West coast to Pearl, upgrading the 200+ fighters and have almost fully refitted the two bomb groups to B-17/LB30. Aircraft moving to Suva. NORPAC Our BB lead TF ran over a PB piquet ship 6 hexes from the intended target. the PB went under. The TF will retire now that they are alerted. The Kuriles are now all Japanese again after our brief foray. Two regiments are a days steaming from Dutch Harbour. DH now has 50 fighters, Adak about 40 (including Canadian Kittyhawk) a B17 sqn and Marauders. China We are about to loose Wenchow in the sth. Elsewhere are taking heavy casualties to arty... Our bombers sortie against a convoy at Haiphong protected by Tojo. We don't do much good. We will sweep with the AVG next turn against the Tojo... Analysis A great start to the Campaign in Burma. They lost 5-8 Oscars. Elsewhere it is going OK. Mini KB still off Java. KB was seen last turn retiring to Truk. Expect action in the SWPAC to really heat up in a week or so... if not then they have probably lost the opportunity... China still a mess, slow at the moment, but expect the Japanese to leap forward soon.

jrcar -> RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) (11/17/2009 8:45:21 AM)
7-8 Apr 1942 Subs Our subs again get a stack of action: Submarine attack near Shortlands at 110,131 Japanese Ships TK Gen'yo Maru Allied Ships SS S-46 Submarine attack near Dadjangas at 79,93 Japanese Ships xAK Yosida Maru #3, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage Allied Ships SS Nautilus Submarine attack near Dadjangas at 79,93 Japanese Ships xAK Tempei Maru Allied Ships SS Nautilus Sub attack near Shortlands at 109,131 Japanese Ships PB Ikunta Maru TK Moji Maru xAK Hokuroku Maru PB Hakkaisan Maru PB Choko Maru #2 Allied Ships SS Porpoise Submarine attack near Davao at 79,91 Japanese Ships xAK Yosida Maru #3, on fire, heavy damage Allied Ships SS Seawolf SS Seawolf is sighted by xAK Yosida Maru #3 SS Seawolf fails to launch torpedoes due to mechanical problems Submarine attack near Dadjangas at 79,94 Japanese Ships AMC Saigon Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage Allied Ships SS Perch Sub attack near Haiphong at 68,57 Japanese Ships xAKL Banshu Maru #18 Allied Ships SS KXIII SS KXIII attacking on the surface Sub attack near Dadjangas at 79,94 Japanese Ships AMC Saigon Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Allied Ships SS Perch Submarine attack near Davao at 79,91 Japanese Ships xAK Yoshida Maru #3 Allied Ships SS Seawolf SS Seawolf is sighted by xAK Yoshida Maru #3 SS Seawolf fails to launch torpedoes due to mechanical problems Submarine attack near Dadjangas at 79,94 Japanese Ships DD Maikaze Allied Ships SS Perch SS Perch is sighted by DD Maikaze SS Perch launches 2 torpedoes at DD Maikaze Submarine attack near Davao at 79,91 Japanese Ships CL Katori Allied Ships SS Seawolf SS Seawolf is sighted by CL Katori SS Seawolf fails to launch torpedoes due to mechanical problems Sub attack near Shortlands at 109,131 Japanese Ships xAK Hokuroku Maru TK Moji Maru PB Ikunta Maru PB Hakkaisan Maru PB Choko Maru #2 Allied Ships SS Porpoise The Seawolf needs to return to fixa problem...

jrcar -> RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) (11/17/2009 9:04:05 AM)
7-8 Apr Burma Our air attacks over Burma don't achieve what we were hoping for, but we will continue for another turn or two. The Blenheims didn't sortie at all :( Morning Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid detected at 15 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 4 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 36 Allied aircraft Hurricane IIb Trop x 22 B-17D Fortress x 3 B-17E Fortress x 16 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses Hurricane IIb Trop: 1 destroyed B-17D Fortress: 2 damaged Japanese ground losses: 17 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Airbase hits 3 Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 14 Afternoon Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 12 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 37 Allied aircraft Hurricane IIb Trop x 22 B-17E Fortress x 16 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Hurricane IIb Trop: 7 destroyed B-17E Fortress: 4 damaged Runway hits 3 Elsewhere unescorted Sally's attack Ramree island (an unbuilt dot base sth of Akyab) and loose several sally to Hurricanes that strayed from CAP over Akyab. Java They again bombard at Bandoeng causing light to moderate damage. At Malang another deliberate attack fails to drop the forts and at 1:3 odds they suffer higher casulties as well. Rest DEI A Japanese FT TF drops troops at Selaroe, a dot base nth of Darwin where we have a small forward detachment. Every plane in Darwin will ground attack, and I'll try to fly in more combat forces in an attempt to hold it. Philippines The Japanese horde retakes Lingayen. Assaulting units: 1st Formosa Inf. Regiment 9th Infantry Regiment 47th Infantry Regiment 2nd Formosa Inf. Regiment 20th Infantry Regiment With 600AV I'll try and leave about 400AV at Clark to delay for a week or so... Japanese air hits Clark and Manila, I'm moving the remaining fighters around resting them then CAPing in an attempt to disrupt the strikes. SWPAC Normal airstrikes, and lots of sub action at the Shortlands. Waiting for KB to return... NORPAC No action China The AVG sweep fails to get any Tojo's :( The forces besiging Nanyang are forced out and we loose lots of troops. Elsewhere at Wenchow and Hankow bombardments cause moderate casulties. Analysis Despite having a horde of subs outside Davao they continue to use it as a forward staging base, loosing an AMC and almost loosing a CL (and they don't have many left!). We are happy with that and will vector in more subs :) Likewise more subs on the way to Shortlands, and lost around Tulagi already :) Burma was a poor result, we lost a number of aircraft for no benefit... but we will try agsin with a Huricane sweep and the B-17 again.

jrcar -> RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) (11/18/2009 7:42:00 PM)
9-10 Apr 1942 Subs Only a couple of unsuccessful attacks. Disappointing after last turn! Burma Weather closed in no action. Java Bandoeng and Malang attacked from the air suffering light casualties. A bombardment attack at Bandoeng also causes light casualties. At Malang a deliberate attack is easily repulsed at 1:4 odds causing twice as any casualties to the Japanese as to the Dutch. DEI Battle for Selaroe! Airpower is comited on both sides. Afternoon Air attack on Gull Battalion, at 78,118 (Selaroe) Weather in hex: Light rain Raid spotted at 32 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 13 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 7 B5N1 Kate x 28 B5N2 Kate x 5 Japanese aircraft losses B5N2 Kate: 1 damaged Allied ground losses: 68 casualties reported Squads: 3 destroyed, 3 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 2 destroyed, 2 disabled Afternoon Air attack on Kure 2nd SNLF , at 78,118 (Selaroe) Weather in hex: Light rain Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 20 minutes Allied aircraft P-40E Warhawk x 15 F4F-3 Wildcat x 15 SB2U-3 Vindicator x 15 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 55 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled) Afternoon Air attack on Kure 2nd SNLF , at 78,118 (Selaroe) Weather in hex: Light rain Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 3 minutes Allied aircraft Hudson I x 5 B-26 Marauder x 21 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 190 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 20 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 7 (0 destroyed, 7 disabled) Then the attack is beaten off... Ground combat at Selaroe (78,118) Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 624 troops, 19 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 29 Defending force 265 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 16 Japanese adjusted assault: 2 Allied adjusted defense: 3 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 0) Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), experience(-) Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-), disruption(-) Japanese ground losses: 28 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Allied ground losses: 48 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Assaulting units: Kure 2nd SNLF /8 Defending units: 55th British Bde /1 Prajoda Garrison Bn /2 Makassar Garrison Bn /2 2/4 MG Bn /1 Sparrow Bn /1 Makassar Base Force /1 Day two the weather closed in stoping all flights. I would really like to try and hold this dot base as it is within fighter cover of Darwin (just). Philippines The Japanese are on the move from north and south and we are moving back into prepared positions, reluctantly giving up the resource centres in the south. Japanese aircraft bomb in a slightly random manor we get at least one Sally but loose a P-40 (only about 5 left). My battle plan sees about 400 AV and level 3 forts at Clark. This should stop them for a while and force a full deployment, in particular if they aren't prepping for the base. Next to it will see about 600-700 AV and level 3 forts. If they don't come into the base I will attempt to counter attack into their flanks. Manila has about 400-500 AV ready to move forward in any direction. Sth of Manila about 400 AV behind level 4 forts... I think this time we may have an opportunity in the south (we see 5 units advancing) I plan to break his assault and then again counter attack south to recapture the resources. Anything we achieve here is a bonus from now on! SWPAC Normal air attacks, although the weather gives a respite on Day two. PACIFIC No action. At the West Coast I have begun converting ships to xAP and moving recently arrived units from LA (I use LA as a hub) to Pearl. Also a regiment has arrived for NORPAc and is moving to Seattle. NORPAC A Marine Regiment and an infantry Regiment are unloading at Dutch Harbour. With the regiment moving to Seattle this gives about 2 div of combat troops in NORPAC over three bases. One of the recently arrived regiments will go to Adak, one to a new island base west of Adak to begin building it up. Adak is being built as a forward fleet base and major airfield. With about 30 CD guns it should stop anything but a major operation... China A small but important victory! Tony roughly handles the 12th Tank Regiment which losses about 60 vehicles and retreats. If they haven't increased vehicle production their pools of armour will be very low. Elsewhere at Wenchow we manage again to just hang on. Casualties are moderate on both sides. Analysis A quiet turn due to weather. I spent a bit of time last turn reviewing forces and locations. I'm very happy with our supply and fuel stocks everywhere, and we currently have a lot of shipping idle (in particular in the Indian ocean area). While we have lost two CV's (one to good play, one to bad luck) our combat fleet is largely intact and concentrated in Pearl and the West Coast. NORPAC is pretty secure against everything but a major attack. In the Pacific Fiji is also pretty secure, just waiting on combat aircraft to come in. Noumea is not being defended, but the forward base at Luganville is almost to level 3 forts, and has 70 AV. Will probably reinforce in a few weeks depending on if it gets molested or not. A key thing for us now is not to rush. We have achieved our intention of creating several areas for potential offensive action (Burma, Darwin, PM, Fiji, PH, NORPAC). Now we need to determine where we go and when. No rush though 3 years of war to come yet :) Cheers Rob

khyberbill -> RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) (11/18/2009 9:20:40 PM)
quote: The forces besiging Nanyang are forced out and we loose lots of troops. Do you have any HR for China?

jrcar -> RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) (11/19/2009 1:45:25 AM)
Apart from "Tony takes the Blame" not really :) While we have a number of HR (The main ones are not bombing Industry and not using ASW missions for aircraft and ships.) I personally wanted to limit them. We are all testers for the game, so I wanted to see what exploits we could uncover and insights we could make. Actually we modified the OOB a bit as part of the testing process. Having been kicked around China in my game with Tony it is actually good to see that it isn't just me incompetence (as if!) that was the problem. Other allied players should take some heart in this. OTOH it only takes the Chinese to win a few battles in succession and things change the other way. We almost achieved that in this game, if we had of taken Nanyang... The arty thing was noted in the testing (in my case when Joe led an Allied army with lots of Aussie guns annihilated two Japanese Divs that had just taken Katherine)and some work was done to improve it. It was improved but not fixed. Cheers Rob quote: ORIGINAL: khyberbill quote: The forces besiging Nanyang are forced out and we loose lots of troops. Do you have any HR for China?

Alfred -> RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) (11/19/2009 2:00:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jrcar Apart from "Tony takes the Blame" not really :) While we have a number of HR (The main ones are not bombing Industry and not using ASW missions for aircraft and ships.) I personally wanted to limit them. We are all testers for the game, so I wanted to see what exploits we could uncover and insights we could make. Actually we modified the OOB a bit as part of the testing process. Having been kicked around China in my game with Tony it is actually good to see that it isn't just me incompetence (as if!) that was the problem. Other allied players should take some heart in this. OTOH it only takes the Chinese to win a few battles in succession and things change the other way. We almost achieved that in this game, if we had of taken Nanyang... The arty thing was noted in the testing (in my case when Joe led an Allied army with lots of Aussie guns annihilated two Japanese Divs that had just taken Katherine)and some work was done to improve it. It was improved but not fixed. Cheers Rob quote: ORIGINAL: khyberbill quote: The forces besiging Nanyang are forced out and we loose lots of troops. Do you have any HR for China? Do you mean to say that NO ASW missions at all are being conducted? No 4 ship ASW TFs created, nor any patrol planes (eg Catalinas) put on dedicated ASW? You are very correct regarding Allied players needing to take heart over China. Too many Allied players are complaining about China in 1942 whilst blithely taking advantage of "certain" Allied capabilities. Both Japanese and Allied players need to understand that for any particular tactic employed by their opponent, there is always a suitable riposte (either tactical or strategical). Alfred PS - there was never any doubt about your competence, only about your wisdom in abandoning the chardonnay vinyards of the Hunter![:D]

khyberbill -> RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) (11/19/2009 2:10:51 AM)
quote: Both Japanese and Allied players need to understand that for any particular tactic employed by their opponent, there is always a suitable riposte (either tactical or strategical). Alfred And what has been your success as allies in China?

jrcar -> RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) (11/19/2009 6:18:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: khyberbill quote: Both Japanese and Allied players need to understand that for any particular tactic employed by their opponent, there is always a suitable riposte (either tactical or strategical). Alfred And what has been your success as allies in China? We one the first battle of Loyang, forcing a retreat that cost them a lot of casulties, in particular armoured vehicles. We then destroyed an armourd car company :) Finally we have roughly handled some of the tank regiments. IF we have have Taken Nanyang then that would have routed a div and really messed up some arty... we came close but not close enough. In particular supply killed us. Cheers Rob

jrcar -> RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) (11/19/2009 6:27:42 AM)
Correct, No ship or aircraft ASW. Aircraft are on search only. This is in part to test if ASW missions are too powerful (I didn't think they were based on the game I was doing with Tony... now I'm not sure). There is no doubting arty bombardments are wrong, as was allied ship capability compared to Japanese at the start. The problem with this code is that there are so many variables, and it is hard to do sensitivity analysis to determine what is the right one. Then you find it and so often it is all or nothing, you tweak a few points, not much happens. Tweak again.. not much, tweak again, and it flips 180 degrees :( P.S. You mean you grow wine north of the Murray, why didn't someone tell me! (Actually I'm quite partial to Tyrrell's port). quote: ORIGINAL: Alfred quote: ORIGINAL: jrcar Apart from "Tony takes the Blame" not really :) While we have a number of HR (The main ones are not bombing Industry and not using ASW missions for aircraft and ships.) I personally wanted to limit them. We are all testers for the game, so I wanted to see what exploits we could uncover and insights we could make. Actually we modified the OOB a bit as part of the testing process. Having been kicked around China in my game with Tony it is actually good to see that it isn't just me incompetence (as if!) that was the problem. Other allied players should take some heart in this. OTOH it only takes the Chinese to win a few battles in succession and things change the other way. We almost achieved that in this game, if we had of taken Nanyang... The arty thing was noted in the testing (in my case when Joe led an Allied army with lots of Aussie guns annihilated two Japanese Divs that had just taken Katherine)and some work was done to improve it. It was improved but not fixed. Cheers Rob quote: ORIGINAL: khyberbill quote: The forces besiging Nanyang are forced out and we loose lots of troops. Do you have any HR for China? Do you mean to say that NO ASW missions at all are being conducted? No 4 ship ASW TFs created, nor any patrol planes (eg Catalinas) put on dedicated ASW? You are very correct regarding Allied players needing to take heart over China. Too many Allied players are complaining about China in 1942 whilst blithely taking advantage of "certain" Allied capabilities. Both Japanese and Allied players need to understand that for any particular tactic employed by their opponent, there is always a suitable riposte (either tactical or strategical). Alfred PS - there was never any doubt about your competence, only about your wisdom in abandoning the chardonnay vinyards of the Hunter![:D]

jrcar -> RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) (11/19/2009 7:10:24 AM)
As our opponents have been slack (something mumbled about work or study or family... something unimportant) Tony and I had a chance to discuss things and think a bit today. First an Intelligence Wrap Up: Intelligence Estimate Apr 1942 Naval Forces Mini KB is operating in the DEI at close to full strength. Currently sth of Koepang supporting an invasion of Selaroe. It is lilely to remain in this area. KB was last seen 5 days ago heading towards Truk from Suva. We asses that there are 4 options for it now: a. It will return to the SWPAC to support an attack/neutralise PM. b. It will head to NORPAC to hit our convoys. c. It will go raiding between Suva and Hawaii d. It will move to support actions in the Indian Ocean. a and b are about equally likely. D is now considered unlikely. SCTF. the rest of the Naval forces have been badly hurt, but are still capable of supporting one major and one minor action. LAND We asses that major land formations are currently fully committed. Once either Java or the Philippines falls it will free up a striking force, most likely to the SWPAC but possibly to either NORPAC or India. Every day of delay helps a lot :) Otherwise land forces are probably close to full strength, except in armoured vehicles. Nothing of significance has been lost. AIR They have been very conservative with their air forces, in particular the bombers, although the latter are now being used more. Netties are being used in the DEI and SWPAC and some detected in the Kuriles. They have the ability to generate significant airpower, but we are starting to reach parity on the defensive, in particular in Burma area. Expected Enemy Course of Action Burma Is expected to get hotter as more forces arrive. They probably know we have basically retired to Myitkyina. They CAN ignore that and just dig in, or they can try a limited offensive into India. We anticipate they will dig in and may try to clear us out, but may choose to go on the defensive. Should know soon. DEI The DEI defence in Java has slowed them a lot. Buy choosing to split their force they don't really have enough to crack either place, even with the air bombardments, quickly... but without supply there isn't much we can do. We may last until the end of the month... Freeing their forces up for a last hurrah in May. Philippines 2-3 divs are now committed here. But it will still he a long fight, even with our lack of supply. We expect to last 3-5 weeks. Meaning forces can't free up until May. SWPAC They have a large convoy unloading in the Shortlands. And some forces at Rabaul. Their forward forces at Buna and Lae are still doggedly persistent... we haven�t detected any reinforcements recently. They almost certainly lack the strength to take PM, even with KB... but as Nik is probably in charge he may still try it. Pacific Nothing but raids are expected. They can take lots of islands, but has no real impact. NORPAC An offensive here is possible, but unlikely until the Philippines or Java falls. Raids are likely by KB. In short we are currently predicting more of the same, rather than a radical rush forward somewhere. We are starting to enter the parity stage.

jrcar -> RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) (11/19/2009 7:30:04 AM)
Friendly Courses of Action We have two fundamental approaches. Sit until early 1943.... bah humbug... Conduct offensive actions early... makes a more interesting AAR! As you may have guessed I'm interested in the later, Tony (probably rightly!) the former... we have compromised... Burma A second B-17 group will be moved here. a and a war of attrition begun, the aim is to use the 1 US Div, 2-3 Aussie Divs plus the Brit and Indian forces to: Defend Myitkyina. Advance of Shwebo from Imphal (main thrust). Advance from Akyab. Aim is to have Shwebo by early 1943... But we will only just have parity in ground and air forces so it will be an interesting war. DEI Prepare for and conduct invasion of Timor to secure forward air bases. 1 B-17 group to be deployed here. Method is to secure Merauke and Horn Island as air cover then move to Aru island, while suppressing Timor airfields. Then suppress Ambon and land at Timor. Key pre-requisite is that PM is secure. Aim is Timor secure by start 1943. This MAY proceed at a faster rate if the NORPAC operation goes ahead... SWPAC Defend PM. Limited actions (maybe Milne bay?) only. Secure sea lane to Darwin/DEI. SOPAC Defend Fiji. Secure Luganville if can be done easily. CENTPAC No action planned. NORPAC Prepare for invasion of the kuriles. Intent is to land a 2 Div plus CD units engineers etc at a base, with CV cover, dig in and let the Japanese come :) This operation is risky and is dependant on the following. No airbase greater than level 1 in the immediate vicinity. No significant reinforcements identified. Method. Forces will begin preparing at Pearl Harbour. Aim is to leave PH in 30-45 days (end May) for a June landing We expect the enemy to counter attack strongly... if they do we will attempt to apply pressure in the DEI.. So currently forces will now prepare for NORPAC and DEI. This requires more transports (coming from the IO) and a careful analysis of the forces required... looks like I will be busy :) If the prerequisites for NORPAC or DEI are not achieved then we go back to the boring 1943 meat grinder approach :) Cheers Rob

khyberbill -> RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) (11/19/2009 9:38:44 PM)
quote: We one the first battle of Loyang, forcing a retreat that cost them a lot of casulties, in particular armoured vehicles. We then destroyed an armourd car company :) Finally we have roughly handled some of the tank regiments. IF we have have Taken Nanyang then that would have routed a div and really messed up some arty... we came close but not close enough. In particular supply killed us. Cheers Rob Hi Rob: I should have been more explicit, the response was directed to Alfred. I wished to know how he had countered the death star. I was aware of your early moves in China as I have been following your AAR from the beginning to see if you had any answer to the death star. Eventually, all my little counter moves to disrupt supply etc were swatted away. I had supply problems of my own and it was difficult to counter the speed of the Japanese armor. They only time I faced them when they were without infantry support was after I had been attacked and forced to retreat. Then the armor units on reserve sliced and diced me up.

jrcar -> RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) (11/20/2009 6:22:30 AM)
Ah OK. that was why we have been happy to molest the armour, they really cause a problem to the Chinese. Cheers Rob quote: ORIGINAL: khyberbill quote: We one the first battle of Loyang, forcing a retreat that cost them a lot of casulties, in particular armoured vehicles. We then destroyed an armourd car company :) Finally we have roughly handled some of the tank regiments. IF we have have Taken Nanyang then that would have routed a div and really messed up some arty... we came close but not close enough. In particular supply killed us. Cheers Rob Hi Rob: I should have been more explicit, the response was directed to Alfred. I wished to know how he had countered the death star. I was aware of your early moves in China as I have been following your AAR from the beginning to see if you had any answer to the death star. Eventually, all my little counter moves to disrupt supply etc were swatted away. I had supply problems of my own and it was difficult to counter the speed of the Japanese armor. They only time I faced them when they were without infantry support was after I had been attacked and forced to retreat. Then the armor units on reserve sliced and diced me up.

jrcar -> RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) (11/20/2009 6:31:49 AM)
Directive to ADM Kimmel Mission: Seize and secure at least one base in the Kuriles in order to support future offensive action against the home Islands. You have under direct command all the forces of the Pacific Ocean areas, and the NORPAC areas. You may request additional forces from the West Coast. The endstate is that a secure base is developed in the northern Kuriles capable of further offensive action.

jrcar -> RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) (11/20/2009 6:46:56 AM)
Planning thoughts. Option one is to take Parashimo Jima as the base. Advantages: Takes the only base currently manned. A bit further from the main airbases on the other islands Kills a key fort. Disadvantages: Having to take a fortified base! Option Two is to take Onnekotan-Jima. Advantages: No fort to take! Same base size regardless. Disadvantages: Closer to the Home Islands. Parashimo-jima in the rear, Could be built up to a base as well... My current thought is to land at the later, and followup a couple of dys later at the former. The aim will be to establish an airbase and a support point (with an AKE or two) while we fight the fort... Random thoughts/Brainstorm =Your thoughts welcome :) Need at least 2 AKE (in case one gets lost). Plus the nORPAC ones (2 there already) Move AR up into the NORPAC (Attu?) to help repair battle damage. I estimate I have 6-10 days before KB arrives. Need a level 1 airbase by then, with fighters already ashore. I plan to have 3-4 divs available (2 from Hawaii, 2 from WestCoast/NORPAC). can't afford to strip NORPAC too much... Have plenty of battleships, infasion force should include 3-4 to supress the forts as well as a bombardment force. Whole plan becomes untenable as soon as a level 2 airbase is complete (as a 3 won't be far off!). Apart from the CV's our fleets are intact and concentrated in PH/Westcoast. Intent is for landings late jun early july. So still have May to get through! Need to recall I Amphib HQ from Suva... Need to think if I use the 32nd Div (SWPAC) or send it to OZ to use in a DEI action...

khyberbill -> RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) (11/20/2009 11:06:17 AM)
Taking an island in the Kuriles is always an audacious endeavor. Keeping it is even harder. How do you intend to keep this island supplied? Two divisions plus support troops eats a lot of C and K rations. And dont forget the Schlitz (my father ran the NCO Club in Attu and Adak and told me once that Schlitz was the most popular beer in those trying times). How do you have AKEs so soon?

jrcar -> RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) (11/20/2009 11:46:51 AM)
On AKEs i convert a number rigt away... have just started a few more. They are key, like AR's were in WITP, support ships. I'm happy to risk AKE's but keep the AEs back, will need them later! Supply in the Kuriles... yep a problem. Dunno :) I doubt we will get that far, I expect them to now build an airfield in the area (in particular because we are quite firm in the Aletions. But as we own the Aletions, and have a lot of supply and fuel there already, the task will be easier. We are more concerned about aircraft. The Japanese can fight (and win) a war of attrition here... but we will bleed them (that is one objective actually) plus being up nth the weather is likely to give us breaks from both KB and ground based air. But can we really sustain it... But also why I really want TWO islands, to give mutual support. Another aim is to try and neutralise their interior position by focussing at three extemities, and for us only requiring CV support in one (the nth). All CV's will be in support. Anyway happy for more thoughts, I'm off to bed :) Cheers Rob

jrcar -> RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) (11/20/2009 8:22:24 PM)
11-12 April 1942 Overall a good turn :) Subs A lot of sub action, including on a TK near Truk, resource ships at Haiphong and DD's going into Selaroe, but while several hits no bangs , even with S boats. But it is encouraging as we are hitting hot spots. Burma No action at all. the enemy base of Magwe is now level4. This probably indicates an intent to go for Akyab/Cox's Bazaar, as Magwe is in a great position to support that. Akyab is secure and more forces are almost at Cox's Bazaar, so we think we are covered.... Java Lots of bombs being dropped but not a lot of damage. We are beginning to damage a lot of aircraft. East DEI They are taking dot bases, they are yet to tackle ones we have manned except for Selaroe... At Selaroe we have Mini KB sitting behind LRCAPing and bombing. We are flying in reinforcements (they got intercepted this turn). We have subs operating (hitting but no bangs and then we have our air:) On day two a FT TF brings in more troops, this time our planes find them: Morning Air attack on TF, near Selaroe at 78,118 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 18 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 6 Allied aircraft P-40E Warhawk x 8 SB2U-3 Vindicator x 18 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed SB2U-3 Vindicator: 1 damaged Japanese Ships DD Nokaze DD Hatsuharu, Bomb hits 1, on fire DD Yamakaze DD Kawakaze DD Akikaze DD Umikaze Morning Air attack on TF, near Selaroe at 78,118 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid spotted at 47 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 15 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 17 Allied aircraft Hudson I x 5 B-26 Marauder x 21 P-39D Airacobra x 6 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses Hudson I: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged B-26 Marauder: 1 damaged P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed Japanese Ships DD Nokaze DD Akikaze DD Kawakaze DD Yamakaze DD Ariake Morning Air attack on TF, near Selaroe at 78,118 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid spotted at 34 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 9 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 18 Allied aircraft B-26 Marauder x 4 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses B-26 Marauder: 2 destroyed Japanese Ships DD Akikaze Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Selaroe at 78,118 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 20 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 5 Allied aircraft F4F-3 Wildcat x 16 SB2U-3 Vindicator x 17 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 destroyed SB2U-3 Vindicator: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged Japanese Ships DD Umikaze DD Hatsuharu, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Kawakaze, Bomb hits 1, on fire DD Ariake Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Selaroe at 78,118 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid spotted at 33 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 10 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 10 Allied aircraft Hudson I x 3 B-26 Marauder x 19 P-39D Airacobra x 8 P-40E Warhawk x 6 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses P-40E Warhawk: 4 destroyed Japanese Ships DD Nokaze DD Umikaze DD Ariake Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Selaroe at 78,118 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 6 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 9 Allied aircraft B-26 Marauder x 6 P-40E Warhawk x 7 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed Japanese Ships DD Nokaze Only the Vindicators are proving to be effective, so I think I'll move the others to ground attack. Aircraft losses are moderate on both sides, but I'm happy to be killing KB Zeros at long range where the pilots won't get recovered... [image]local://upfiles/6237/1F3CDB0F539E407A8A9EB3122DFD1483.jpg[/image]

jrcar -> RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) (11/20/2009 8:30:33 PM)
11-12 April 1942 Philippines The advancing hordes have lots of air support (around 200 bombers now operating in support up here). A number of rearguard actions are fought which gives me an indication of their strength and disposition. Ground combat at Iba (78,75) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 25239 troops, 354 guns, 146 vehicles, Assault Value = 645 Defending force 1529 troops, 26 guns, 61 vehicles, Assault Value = 22 Japanese adjusted assault: 511 Allied adjusted defense: 16 Japanese assault odds: 31 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese forces CAPTURE Iba !!! Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), op mode(-), fatigue(-), experience(-) supply(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 47 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Vehicles lost 5 (0 destroyed, 5 disabled) Allied ground losses: 94 casualties reported Squads: 6 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 49 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 10 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 8 (8 destroyed, 0 disabled) Vehicles lost 57 (57 destroyed, 0 disabled) Units retreated 1 Defeated Allied Units Retreating! Assaulting units: 9th Infantry Regiment 2nd Formosa Inf. Regiment 47th Infantry Regiment 1st Formosa Inf. Regiment 20th Infantry Regiment 1st Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 26th Field Artillery Regiment 1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment 2nd Hvy.Artillery Regiment 8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 23rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment 48th Field Artillery Regiment 9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 14th Army 15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion Defending units: 26th PS Cavalry Regiment Ground combat at Bayombong (80,75) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 7007 troops, 33 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 195 Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0 Japanese adjusted assault: 189 Allied adjusted defense: 1 Japanese assault odds: 189 to 1 (fort level 1) Japanese forces CAPTURE Bayombong !!! Combat modifiers Attacker: Assaulting units: 65th Brigade Ground combat at Atimonan (80,79) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 11949 troops, 113 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 391 Defending force 1236 troops, 26 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 47 Japanese adjusted assault: 283 Allied adjusted defense: 7 Japanese assault odds: 40 to 1 (fort level 1) Japanese forces CAPTURE Atimonan !!! Combat modifiers Defender: forts(+), experience(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 15 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Allied ground losses: 561 casualties reported Squads: 12 destroyed, 29 disabled Non Combat: 18 destroyed, 22 disabled Engineers: 3 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 8 (8 destroyed, 0 disabled) Units retreated 1 Defeated Allied Units Retreating! Assaulting units: Kure 3rd SNLF Kimura Det 83rd Naval Guard Unit 24th Nav Gsn Unit 82nd Naval Guard Unit 23rd Nav Gd Unit Defending units: 41st PA Infantry/B Division Supply is low everywhere, it looks like the only place I have a chance of a counterattack is again in the south... But I don't like my chances. I think this is definately the end, just how long I can drag it out... [image]local://upfiles/6237/BAA81463E84F4687BCC06A40DF6F222A.jpg[/image]

jrcar -> RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) (11/20/2009 8:38:21 PM)
11-12 Apr 1942 SWPAC the good bit! A FT Tf is caught moving out of Buna (there probably was one that went into Lae at the same time, according to coastwatchers). Our planes at PM sortie :) Morning Air attack on TF, near Buna at 101,129 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid spotted at 42 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 16 minutes Allied aircraft F4F-3 Wildcat x 14 SBD-3 Dauntless x 17 Allied aircraft losses SBD-3 Dauntless: 2 damaged Japanese Ships CL Isuzu, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Akatsuki Aircraft Attacking: 17 x SBD-3 Dauntless diving from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CL Isuzu Morning Air attack on TF, near Buna at 101,129 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 14 minutes Allied aircraft A-24 Banshee x 10 P-40E Warhawk x 15 Allied aircraft losses A-24 Banshee: 2 damaged Japanese Ships DD Akatsuki CL Isuzu, heavy fires, heavy damage Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Buna at 101,129 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 9 minutes Allied aircraft F4F-3 Wildcat x 14 SBD-3 Dauntless x 15 Allied aircraft losses SBD-3 Dauntless: 3 damaged Japanese Ships DD Harusame, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage DD Akatsuki, Bomb hits 1, on fire CL Isuzu, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Buna at 101,129 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 8 minutes Allied aircraft A-24 Banshee x 12 P-40E Warhawk x 15 Allied aircraft losses A-24 Banshee: 3 damaged Japanese Ships DD Shikinami, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage CL Isuzu, heavy fires, heavy damage On the second day only the following occurs (due to weather). Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Gasmata at 102,129 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 11 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 9 Allied aircraft A-24 Banshee x 2 P-40E Warhawk x 7 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed Japanese Ships DD Harusame, heavy damage I don't think they have many CL's left... surely 5 1000pd penetrating hits will have sunk her... [image]local://upfiles/6237/AEB8A0FEE2CD41BA916179302B639602.jpg[/image]

jrcar -> RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) (11/20/2009 8:56:04 PM)
11-12 Apr 1942 China At Hankow we are still holding on, suffering light casualties... but soon the Japanese horde will come this way... At Wenchow the forts finally give out and we are thrown out with moderate casualties. Turn Analysis Well the SWPAC looks to be hotting up. BB at Rabaul and the FT TF. PM is now at 4 forts and the construction of the airfield is well underway, should be level 4 airfield in another turn or so. We have plenty of fighters in Australia, and it is the airfield level that is holding us back. AV is over 400 with another 50 AV arriving soon. Suva goes to level 5 forts, and Nadi is almost at 4. Will move forces around. Some planes and additional forces are coming via a long route. NORPAC has Adak at level 4 port, airfield and fort. The question is where is KB... Sigint indicates: Heavy Volume of Radio transmissions detected at Kwajalein Island This could be KB, in which case it may be going raiding. Or they are heading back for the refit cycle... most likely they are at Truk ready to support a SWPAC operation, for without them the operation in doomed, and even with them it is unlikely... Started prepping and organising forces for NORPAC. Actually have quite a lot and will need more transports... these are coming from the Indian ocean area where amphib operations are not expected to occur. A Brit carrier is at Perth and will transit to the Pacific. The Hornet is out of refit and moving to the Pacific as well. Need more escorts!

khyberbill -> RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) (11/20/2009 9:38:38 PM)
quote: On AKEs i convert a number rigt away... have just started a few more. Ok, I cant find any ships to convert. Which ones convert? When can one convert them and how long does the conversion take? Thanks.

jrcar -> RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) (11/20/2009 11:07:36 PM)
Here are the currently available AKE that I've converted... [image]local://upfiles/6237/070AF9D2868742EC9F3B74AEFE2FAE63.jpg[/image]

jrcar -> RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) (11/20/2009 11:09:39 PM)
And here are 3 more being done at the moment. Conversions on this scale require a shipyard to be present! [image]local://upfiles/6237/09A45B0B3A7C4224BD13E400EFF4D8E4.jpg[/image]

Smeulders -> RE: Aussies vs Amis - World Defence(no Joe or Nik) (11/20/2009 11:30:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: khyberbill quote: On AKEs i convert a number rigt away... have just started a few more. Ok, I cant find any ships to convert. Which ones convert? When can one convert them and how long does the conversion take? Thanks. These are 2 classes that can be converted at the start of the game. Harriman Cargo (4200 capacity) Hog Island Cargo (3920) The C2 Cargo can be converted to an AE, don't worry if you lose a couple, you'll get quite a few during the war.

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