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R_TEAM -> Strenght points and FirePower (8/17/2009 12:35:50 PM)
Hi, come to this question after a couple of hours thinking over this problem ... I played much the old C64 Games "PanzerStrike!" who one tank symbol IS one tank and one mortar/gun symbol IS one gun/mortar ... Here on CS a tank symbol stay for a couple of tanks (the number of strenght points IS the number of tanks) and a arty symbol for a couple of guns (the same with the stenght points) ..... (i leave the infantry out of this example - but for here it is the same behavor) It is no problem that the individual tank is not simulated by move or positioning,it is very unlikely that a tank platoon spread more than 250m in radius (tha size of a game Hex) and so one is is safe to say that the platoon is distributet over the hex size .... (the same is going for infantry) But by battle action - it looks very unrealistic..... So come it to an fight from a Tiger tank platoon with strenght 6 with an KV1 tank platoon with strenght 6 .. the damage is calculatet from the know datas and with know formulas. Good and this is O.K. ---It looks after study the handbook THIS is covered with the Attack modifier--- \| But come a Tiger platoon that have full Str6 and have now Str3 after an fight to an combat \| with an Str6 KV1 Platoon ... \| Tha same formulas/datas are used as by 6vs6 .. this is IMHO silly... \| 3 Tanks (thats present the 3Str Tiger platoon) cant get the same damage an 6 tanks as \| 6 Tanks ! \| Dont think his 3 tank guns fire now magicaly twice the power as before ... ---But the result below is not covered ..(IMHO)-------------------------------------- The same is going the other way around.... If a 6Str Tiger Platoon fire on a weak 3Str KV1 Platoon, the result CANT the same as by 6vs6 - Its like 3 Tiger fire on the Target and 3 Tiger fire in the Air .... I think this should changed to a more realistic way .... i played CS not for the nice GFX :P I played it as one of the realistics WW2 Tank Battle simulations ... and all that make it more realistic is for me welcome - other i can play fun "strategic" games ...... ;) [and i know - to change this, its open a deadly worm of problems ...] Regards R_TEAM

Jason Petho -> RE: Strenght points and FirePower (8/17/2009 3:16:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: R_TEAM The same is going the other way around.... If a 6Str Tiger Platoon fire on a weak 3Str KV1 Platoon, the result CANT the same as by 6vs6 - Its like 3 Tiger fire on the Target and 3 Tiger fire in the Air .... I think this should changed to a more realistic way .... i played CS not for the nice GFX :P I played it as one of the realistics WW2 Tank Battle simulations ... and all that make it more realistic is for me welcome - other i can play fun "strategic" games ...... ;) I recommend reading Sections 5.20 Combat Explanation and 5.20.1 Combat Results. It appears you seem to be misinterpreting how attacks are resolved. Jason Petho

R_TEAM -> RE: Strenght points and FirePower (8/19/2009 3:51:01 AM)
Hi Jason, thanks for you replay. Have read the section carefull and i think i get the point ... IMHO it is fire a tank platoon with 6SP to a 6SP tank platoon it fires 6 times. It is firing a 6SP Tank platoon to an 3 SP Tank platoon it is firing 6 times too. This i have missread ;) [thinked it fires only 3 times then, like the defender SP value..] So it is sorted now - time for my next not full clear points ;) First after reading this section i come across the density value point. This is a nice and real bonus to the game,but i think it is a bit wrong implement. If a hex have many units in it and have high density i dont think the respektive platoons stand now closer at one point.So if the density value higher then the chance to hit by an missshot of the primary target a other target that stand in the hex is the point and not to hit the same target better ..... Second, if i get it correct a tank platoon with 6SP fires 6 times.If i fire as example with 3 tank platoons bundled on an target and the target get eliminatet after the second shot, the third tank platton stop firing and i have his AP points remaining for other stuff. But if i fire with an single platoon with 6SP, it fires 6 times virtually, and if the target eliminated with the 3. virtual shot, the remaining 3 shots get loost.If i am correct ... Can this be changed or is this a limit by simulating not every single tank ..? Regards R_TEAM

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