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Magpius -> Air Icon Help (8/25/2009 11:15:27 AM)
hi all, I'm working on a unit mod for the upcoming 1.51 patch, and would like some help. I'm looking for some good images that can be used as silhouettes for the air counters. (I'll stick with Nato icons for land units). Tac Bomber Strat Bomber Fighter. at the moment I have a mosquito, lancaster and spitfire graphic but would like to find others. posts or links appreciated. ta

Tomokatu -> RE: Air Icon Help (8/25/2009 10:45:28 PM)
Do you intend to use different aircraft in each category for the increasing tech levels? eg Brit: Spitfire - Level 1 Typhoon - Level 4 Meteor - Level 5

doomtrader -> RE: Air Icon Help (8/25/2009 11:05:34 PM)
This is what we have used (also with googled examples). Germany: fighters: 1 level - Arado Ar 68 http://images.google.pl/images?um=1&hl=pl&lr=&q=Arado+Ar+68 2 level - Messerschmitt Bf 109 http://images.google.pl/images?um=1&hl=pl&lr=&q=Messerschmitt+Bf+109&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w 3 level - Focke-Wulf Fw 190 http://images.google.pl/images?um=1&hl=pl&lr=&q=Focke-Wulf+Fw+190&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w 4 level - Messerschmitt Me 262 http://images.google.pl/images?um=1&hl=pl&lr=&q=Messerschmitt+Me+262&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w 5 level - Heinkel He 162 http://images.google.pl/images?um=1&hl=pl&lr=&q=Heinkel+He+162&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w strat: Heinkel He 177 http://images.google.pl/images?um=1&hl=pl&lr=&q=Heinkel+He+177&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w tact: lvl1 - Dornier Do 23 http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl=pl&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Apl%3Aofficial&sa=1&q=Dornier+Do+23&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w&aq=f&oq= lvl2 - Junkers Ju 87 http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkers_Ju_87 http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl=pl&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Apl%3Aofficial&sa=1&q=Junkers+Ju+87&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w&aq=f&oq= lvl3 - Dornier Do 217 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dornier_Do_217 http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl=pl&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Apl%3Aofficial&sa=1&q=Dornier+Do+217&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w&aq=f&oq= lvl4 - Junkers Ju 188 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkers_Ju_188 http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl=pl&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Apl%3Aofficial&sa=1&q=Junkers+Ju+188&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w&aq=f&oq= lvl5 - Arado Ar 234 http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arado_Ar_234 http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl=pl&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Apl%3Aofficial&sa=1&q=Arado+Ar+234&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w&aq=f&oq= Italy: fighters: Level 1 - Fiat CR.32 http://images.google.pl/images?hl=pl&q=Fiat+CR.32&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w&gbv=2&aq=f&oq= Level 2 - Fiat G.50 http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl=pl&sa=1&q=Fiat+G.50&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w Level 3 - Fiat G.55 http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl=pl&sa=1&q=Fiat+G.55&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w Level 4 - SAI 403 Dardo http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl=pl&sa=1&q=%22Ambrosini+SAI.403%22&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w Level 5 - Caproni Ca.183 bis http://images.google.pl/images?hl=pl&lr=&um=1&sa=1&q=%22Caproni+Ca.183%22&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w&aq=f&oq= strat: Piaggio P.108 http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl=pl&sa=1&q=Piaggio+P.108&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w tact: lvl1 - Savoia-Marchetti SM.79 (nie ma nic lepszego :/) http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savoia-Marchetti_SM.79 http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl=pl&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Apl%3Aofficial&sa=1&q=Savoia-Marchetti+SM.79&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w&aq=f&oq= lvl2 - Fiat BR.20 http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_BR.20 http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl=pl&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Apl%3Aofficial&sa=1&q=Fiat+BR.20&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w&aq=f&oq= lvl3 - CANT Z.1007 Alcione http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/CANT_Z.1007 http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl=pl&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Apl%3Aofficial&sa=1&q=CANT+Z.1007+Alcione&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w&aq=f&oq= lvl4 - CANT Z.1018 Leone http://images.google.pl/images?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Apl%3Aofficial&hl=pl&q=CANT+Z.1018&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w&gbv=2&aq=f&oq= USA: fighters: 1 level - Boeing P-26 Peashooter http://images.google.pl/images?um=1&hl=pl&lr=&q=Boeing+P-26+Peashooter&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w 2 level - Curtiss P-36 Hawk http://images.google.pl/images?um=1&hl=pl&lr=&q=Curtiss+P-36+Hawk&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w 3 level - Bell P-39 Airacobra http://images.google.pl/images?um=1&hl=pl&lr=&q=Bell+P-39+Airacobra&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w 4 level - North American P-51 Mustang http://images.google.pl/images?um=1&hl=pl&lr=&q=North+American+P-51+Mustang 5 level - North American FJ Fury http://images.google.pl/images?um=1&hl=pl&lr=&q=North+American+FJ+Fury&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w strat: Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress http://images.google.pl/images?um=1&hl=pl&lr=&q=Boeing+B-17+Flying+Fortress tact: lvl1 - Douglas Y1B-7 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Y1B-7 http://images.google.pl/images?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Apl%3Aofficial&hl=pl&q=Douglas+Y1B-7&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w&gbv=2&aq=f&oq= lvl2 - A-20 Havoc http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-20_Havoc http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl=pl&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Apl%3Aofficial&sa=1&q=A-20+Havoc&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w&aq=f&oq= lvl3 - Douglas A-26 Invader http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_A-26_Invader http://images.google.pl/images?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Apl%3Aofficial&hl=pl&q=Douglas+A-26+Invader&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w&gbv=2&aq=f&oq= lvl4 - North American B-25 Mitchell http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-25_Mitchell http://images.google.pl/images?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Apl%3Aofficial&hl=pl&q=B-25+Mitchell&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w&gbv=2&aq=f&oq= lvl5 - B-45 Tornado http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-45_Tornado http://images.google.pl/images?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Apl%3Aofficial&hl=pl&q=B-45+Tornado&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w&gbv=2&aq=f&oq= UK: fighters: Level 1 - Gloster Gladiator http://images.google.pl/images?hl=pl&q=Gloster+Gladiator&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w&gbv=2 Level 2 - Hawker Hurricane http://images.google.pl/images?hl=pl&q=Hawker+Hurricane&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w&gbv=2 Level 3 - Spitfire Mk Vb http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl=pl&sa=1&q=Spitfire+Mk+Vb&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w Level 4 - Spitfire Mk IX http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl=pl&sa=1&q=Spitfire+Mk+IX Level 5 - Gloster Meteor http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl=pl&sa=1&q=Gloster+Meteor&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w strat: Avro Lancaster http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl=pl&sa=1&q=Avro+Lancaster&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w tact: lvl1 - Hawker Hart http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawker_Hart http://images.google.pl/images?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Apl%3Aofficial&hl=pl&q=Hawker+Hart&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w&gbv=2&aq=f&oq= lvl2 - Fairey Battle http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairey_Battle http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl=pl&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Apl%3Aofficial&sa=1&q=Fairey+Battle&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w&aq=f&oq= lvl3 - Handley Page Hampden http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handley_Page_Hampden http://images.google.pl/images?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Apl%3Aofficial&hl=pl&q=Handley+Page+Hampden&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w&gbv=2&aq=f&oq= lvl4 - de Havilland Mosquito http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Mosquito http://images.google.pl/images?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Apl%3Aofficial&hl=pl&q=de+Havilland+Mosquito&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w&gbv=2&aq=f&oq= lvl5 - English Electric Canberra http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Electric_Canberra http://images.google.pl/images?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Apl%3Aofficial&hl=pl&q=English+Electric+Canberra&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w&gbv=2&aq=f&oq= France: fighters: Level 1 - Dewoitine D.510 http://images.google.pl/images?hl=pl&q=Dewoitine+D.510&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w&gbv=2 Level 2 - Dewoitine D.520 http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl=pl&sa=1&q=Dewoitine+D.520&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w Level 3 - Arsenal VG-33 http://images.google.pl/images?hl=pl&q=VG-33&lr=&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi Level 4 - Arsenal VB 10 http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl=pl&sa=1&q=Arsenal+VB+10&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w Level 5 - Dassault Ouragan http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl=pl&sa=1&q=Dassault+Ouragan&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w strat: Bloch MB.162 http://images.google.pl/images?hl=pl&q=Bloch+MB.162&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w&gbv=2&aq=f&oq= tact: lvl1 - Potez 540 http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl=pl&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Apl%3Aofficial&sa=1&q=Potez+540&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w&aq=f&oq= lvl2 - Breguet 693 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breguet_693 http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl=pl&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Apl%3Aofficial&sa=1&q=Breguet+693&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w&aq=f&oq= lvl3 - Lior� et Olivier LeO 45 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lior%C3%A9_et_Olivier_LeO_45 http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl=pl&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Apl%3Aofficial&sa=1&q=Lior%C3%A9+et+Olivier+LeO+45&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w&aq=f&oq= USSR: fighters: 1 level - I-15bis http://images.google.pl/images?um=1&hl=pl&lr=&q=I-15bis&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w 2 level - I-16 http://images.google.pl/images?um=1&hl=pl&lr=&q=I-16&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w 3 level - MiG-3 http://images.google.pl/images?um=1&hl=pl&lr=&q=MiG-3&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w 4 level - Jak-9 http://images.google.pl/images?um=1&hl=pl&lr=&q=%22Jak-9%22 5 level - MiG-15 http://images.google.pl/images?um=1&hl=pl&lr=&q=MiG-15&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w strat: Pe-8 http://images.google.pl/images?um=1&hl=pl&lr=&q=Pe-8&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w tact: lvl1 - Po-2 http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Po-2 http://images.google.pl/images?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Apl%3Aofficial&hl=pl&q=Po-2&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w&gbv=2&aq=f&oq= lvl2 - Suchoj Su-2 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-2 http://images.google.pl/images?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Apl%3Aofficial&hl=pl&q=Suchoj+Su-2&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w&gbv=2&aq=f&oq= lvl3 - Ił-2 http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%C5%82-2 http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl=pl&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Apl%3Aofficial&sa=1&q=i%C5%82-2&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w&aq=f&oq= lvl4 - Tupolew Tu-2 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-2 http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl=pl&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Apl%3Aofficial&um=1&sa=1&q=Tupolev+Tu-2&btnG=Szukaj+obraz%C3%B3w&aq=f&oq= lvl5 - Iliuszyn Ił-28 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilyushin_Il-28 http://images.google.pl/images?gbv=2&hl=pl&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:pl:official&q=Ilyushin%20Il-28&lr=&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi Hope this helps.

Hairog -> RE: Air Icon Help (8/26/2009 2:14:26 AM)
Suggest US Level 3 P-38 Lightning. My favorite and the best fighter at the time. distinctive shape. Just an all around cool plane. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-38_Lightning The P-38 was the only American fighter aircraft in active production throughout the duration of American involvement in the war, from Pearl Harbor to VJ Day. When you do the Pacific you must include the P-38 which was flown by America's Ace of Aces Dick Bong. Go to the following if you want to download my 31 mission campaign following Bong's career. See if you can match his record of 40 kills. Bet you can't even against AI. http://mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads&file=details&id=898

Magpius -> RE: Air Icon Help (8/26/2009 2:32:13 AM)
At this point I was only going to create a single set of generic silhouette air units to represent the three types. It opens a tin of worms (arguments about plane strength levels etc), and turns a 3 unit mod into 15 individual unit mods, (just for air, excluding land) for EACH active country. Essentially I was boiling it down to... Single engine fighter Dual engine tac fighter/ bomber Quad engine strat. bomber Also remember that the symbol resides on a COUNTER, I'm not into running miniatures on a map. (you will notice ALL the AAR's here are counters). So the image will end up about 30x30 pixels. I was after distinctive 'top view' profiles. Iconic shapes, spitfire, BF109e, Mosquito, Lancaster, B17 etc...

Magpius -> RE: Air Icon Help (8/26/2009 2:33:53 AM)
@Doom, wow[X(] & thankyou that list saves me a great deal of mouse clicking very much appreciated. A

Hairog -> RE: Air Icon Help (8/26/2009 3:56:17 AM)
Just a suggestion but there is no more iconic top down shilouette than the Forked Tailed Devil P-38 and the best fighter bomber of the war.

Magpius -> RE: Air Icon Help (8/26/2009 10:30:16 AM)
@Hairog cool, care to post said pic. -A

Madmatt32162 -> RE: Air Icon Help (8/26/2009 4:11:18 PM)
Agent S, I have a huge collection of excellent aircraft silhouettes which I have downloaded over the years. I would be happy to share them with you. Two problems: 1. The folder is 572 megs, of course, if you can tell me exactly which types you want, I can just send those. 2. Most of the images are over 400 x 500 pixels, much too large for our purposes. If you have a way to reduce the image size and still keep the images sharp and clear, then no problem. I have tried with ms paint and the results were not good. Let me know if you are interested.

Bleck -> RE: Air Icon Help (8/26/2009 4:47:27 PM)
MS Paint is not very good for reducing size, IrfanView is much better and you can modify (resize, rename etc.) multiple files at once (Batch conversion) ;)

Magpius -> RE: Air Icon Help (8/27/2009 3:43:06 AM)
Thanks Madmat, It maybe be overkill at this point! As posted above, I'm after (at this stage) just 3 generic icons to represent all countries. Fighter-Tac Fighter/Bomber-Strat.Bomber. I've gone with Spitfire, Mosquito, and B17. (Only for the simple reason, that I built and painted airfix models of each of these, and they hung from my ceiling for about 5 years.) attached is a work in progress for the 1.51 patch. It will give you a sense of direction I'm going here. trying to just "keep it simple'. [image]local://upfiles/26546/6FE5C268F6B445C79F6AF5E4DBE94870.jpg[/image]

Magpius -> RE: Air Icon Help (8/27/2009 3:47:58 AM)
The ships come via the brilliant mods being developed for war in the pacific. (Those guys are insane...in a good way)[:D]

Uxbridge -> RE: Air Icon Help (8/29/2009 3:43:26 PM)
Looks nice, Agent. I will wait until the patch is out, cause I can't calculate the things as you do. I draw and check, draw and check. And for that I need the game.

Magpius -> RE: Air Icon Help (8/31/2009 1:37:32 AM)
The draw sits within the mask image provided by bleck. The graphic part is finished. I use the .csv file for image location and size tweaking. (back and forth, reload, text tweak reload...) But until the patch is released...we wait!

Hairog -> RE: Air Icon Help (8/31/2009 2:44:00 AM)
My goodness those are 30 by 30? Excellent work.

Magpius -> RE: Air Icon Help (8/31/2009 8:15:51 AM)
H., possibly a little bigger.[;)] as I said, I use the appearance.csv file to size and locate the components into a composite graphic in the game. So really, the images could theoretically be much bigger. .png's scale quite nicely. regards A

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