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ORIGINAL: doomtrader

Hi bo,

Would you like to throw any examples of games that are graphically comfortable for you??

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ORIGINAL: Michael the Pole

Bo, you'll find that the developers of these games are horses of a radically different color. I was a real flaming rant artist when I first climbed aboard. having had the same experience that you did added to being robbed at gunpoint by the (explatives deleted in the interests of keeping my posting privilidges) at Sony/Steam/Creative Assembly.

They changed my mind.[:-] Utilizing the old Polish proverb about keeping your friends close but your enemies closer, they invited me to join the beta test team, which has developed into a real band of brothers, and is one of the most well informed, dedicated and inventive group of gamers that I've worked with in more than 35 years of wargaming. The developers not only listen to us ([X(]), they also listen to the community on the main board ([X(][X(])

Anyway, the reason that the map looks like it does, is because WE decided that thats how WE wanted it to look. (You'll notice that there are TWO map choices available, but they both look like old paper map war games. Thats because most of us are old fart paper map wargamers.) The designers have also gone to a lot of trouble to make this game the most modder friendly project I've ever seen (for those of you who just HAVE to tinker with the code!) So, if you dont like the bloody map, please design your own, post it to the mod section as other people have, and the democracy that is this community will decide if you have a point or are just a shallow, console-head teeniebopper, fixated on nintendo graphics.

I'm a HUGE fanboy of these guys.

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ORIGINAL: bo


... MWIF and the graphics are brillant...

Bo

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ORIGINAL: Tomokatu

Eeepp! I saw that, and will try to forget that I did.
IMNSHO somebody has tried to cram TOO MUCH information onto the individual counters. I much prefer the ToW sidebars for the detailed stuff.

That map looks like somebody parked a vegetarian pizza on the carpet. Not impressed. Sorry to criticise your favourite example, bo, but that's not .......... (oh! add your own words)

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ORIGINAL: bo
I will not offer an apology to Eric because he and others in Matrix are not helping the programmers in MWIF finishing the job in a reasonable amount of time. Sorry for talking too much about MWIF on this Wrath forum but that is what led me to the wrong word of robot, again I am sorry for my comment of robot.

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ORIGINAL: Michael the Pole

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ORIGINAL: Tomokatu

Eeepp! I saw that, and will try to forget that I did.
IMNSHO somebody has tried to cram TOO MUCH information onto the individual counters. I much prefer the ToW sidebars for the detailed stuff.

That map looks like somebody parked a vegetarian pizza on the carpet. Not impressed. Sorry to criticise your favourite example, bo, but that's not .......... (oh! add your own words)

Haha -- love it! I am espescially fond of all the little square flags in every hex. They must be potential planter boxes.
Sarge, you are hereby tasked with the google map project. THAT I'd like to see![8D]

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ORIGINAL: Hard Sarge

LOL Bo, that is not fair mate, any designer, artist, what not, is never going to be happy with what they end up with, it can always be better

Double LOL, my game, I got a new map, new plane art, and all kinds of goodies, but they are not what I wanted, or would ask for, if I have the power to ask for stuff

think about it, shortly, we going to be able to use something like Google Earth, to make game maps with, we could make the map prefect, instead of guessing and hoping

I might be jadded, I do alot of Alpha and Beta work on games, I have had game I was testing, that didn't have troops, or maps (try fighting a battle with out the troops showing ! try intercepting a bombing raid, with out having any planes on the map, or targets, LOL, the one with out troops, they ended up putting some place holders in, and the testers thought they were great, we found out later, they were just place holders, the real troops were much better !!!, they just weren't ready yet)

I find the map decent for this type of game, have you tried changing the settings for the map ?

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ORIGINAL: PitifulGrunt

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ORIGINAL: bo


... MWIF and the graphics are brillant...

Bo

You're honestly saying you think this picture (from MWIF) is an example of "brilliant graphics" and that ToW's map needs work?




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ORIGINAL: gwgardner

how's this for a map?

on a bit lower scale than ToW, but what I like about it is that each hex blendsinto the next, instead of using cookie cutter graphics.

Now I LOVE the ToW map, but this one is better, from AGW.

Put a few eye-candy railroads on the ToW map, and I bet it would make a huge difference.

[image]local://upfiles/20372/F3F22A7BDB7A4D9F8A3F7C8A1BABD3AC.jpg[/image]

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ORIGINAL: Hard Sarge

those are basicly the ones I was asking about, it adds some more contrast to the map, makes it easier to tell what is what

the map works for me, what I think won't make it any better for you, if you don't like it, but, if you can, give the game a chance, it is a good game, you see the respounce your post got, so that should tell you something

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ORIGINAL: bo
This is a nice looking map thank you for finding it, I would prefer this one to the map they have in Wrath

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ORIGINAL: PitifulGrunt

What is AGW?

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ORIGINAL: Michael the Pole

I really like the AGW map, myself. As GW and some of the other grognards will tell you, we fought out the road/railroad controversy quite a few months ago, and the conclusion that we reached was that our games scale is just one level to high for it. Essentially, at this scale, almost every hex would have a road or railroad, or both([X(]) in it.
Personally, I think that adding railroads and more important, railroad repair units, would be a nice addition to the game, but then I think that most of the UK's PP should come onto the map in convoys and have to fight their way through the subs to get to Blighty. (Always remember Omar Bradley's comment that amatuers study tactics, professionals study logistics!) Unfortunately, at this scale, railroads and roads would be, as GWsays, eye candy.
Now, I think that we can all get off Bo's back. He has abased himself sufficiently, and will hopefully give us all the benefit of the doubt the next time he makes a suggestion. I believe that it was Napoleon that told his Generals that he didn't want to hear about problems, he wanted to hear about solutions.
BTW, I LIKE having the names of the rivers on the map. My European geography isn't all that it should be.

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ORIGINAL: micheljq

Please if you don't like the map or the game, then don't play it do not spam the thread.

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ORIGINAL: bo

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ORIGINAL: doomtrader

Hi bo,

Would you like to throw any examples of games that are graphically comfortable for you??

Doom I am not a programmer I just want to play good war games that are not only well conceived but pleasing to the eye. I think SC by battlefront is much more pleasing to look at. Not trying to be argumentive for the moment anyway but I am sure UBI soft could knock our socks off, I have seen pictures of MWIF and the graphics are brillant. Doom if you feel in your heart and are truthful with yourself and you feel these graphics are world class then fine there is nothing more for me to say to you, it will be your opinion and that I will respect as I do everyone else who has an opinion, I think the game is well conceived the AI adequate and sequence of play very well done, I personally like the large map over SC's small map. My opinion is that these graphics are very subpar for the knowledge that is available today in graphics , I truly dont know what I am saying is wrong about the graphics being antiquated.

Bo