RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (Allies)

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seydlitz_slith -> RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (Allies) (5/24/2010 12:36:01 PM)
After over 30 turns of fighting, I have managed to finally send the Soviet units in the hex at Voroshilov back to their prison at Vladivostok. They had been hoping to stage a breakout and relink up to their other forces but my troops were too much and the conflict had bogged down into a world war one type trench battle. It is now turn 173, May 28, 1942. Ground combat at Voroshilov (112,45) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 183100 troops, 1874 guns, 1270 vehicles, Assault Value = 5076 Defending force 38759 troops, 850 guns, 74 vehicles, Assault Value = 911 Japanese adjusted assault: 3416 Allied adjusted defense: 991 Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 3958 casualties reported Squads: 18 destroyed, 209 disabled Non Combat: 23 destroyed, 243 disabled Engineers: 12 destroyed, 46 disabled Guns lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled) Vehicles lost 85 (8 destroyed, 77 disabled) Allied ground losses: 19496 casualties reported Squads: 358 destroyed, 58 disabled Non Combat: 1084 destroyed, 64 disabled Engineers: 210 destroyed, 40 disabled Guns lost 133 (93 destroyed, 40 disabled) Vehicles lost 59 (58 destroyed, 1 disabled) Units retreated 30 Defeated Allied Units Retreating! [image]local://upfiles/6829/E427CBC3FFED44B2897C1A79B4DC9AD5.jpg[/image]

seydlitz_slith -> RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (Allies) (5/24/2010 12:37:29 PM)
Since I haven't shown it in a while, here is a quick map tour of the fronts. First the Russian front. [image]local://upfiles/6829/DA02E5F4D4744E9FBC9EEDFF1DE3ACF0.jpg[/image]

seydlitz_slith -> RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (Allies) (5/24/2010 12:39:04 PM)
Next the Mongolian front. I have been making good progress here after earlier being almost pushed out of the region. [image]local://upfiles/6829/D18E3A8AC4534A37B1575A0A5A92D284.jpg[/image]

seydlitz_slith -> RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (Allies) (5/24/2010 12:45:56 PM)
From here the news is not so rosy. The level of committment required to conduct a campaign against the Soviets has left me short of forces in the southern theater of war. As a result, I am behind in my timetable and in some places I do not have enough forces to quickly wrap up engagements. Singapore is an excellent example of this. I have had the enemy bottled up here for three months but he is still just barely too strong for me to wipe him out. The end is getting near, however. Ground combat at Singapore (50,84) Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 58529 troops, 794 guns, 127 vehicles, Assault Value = 1817 Defending force 42634 troops, 513 guns, 273 vehicles, Assault Value = 832 Japanese ground losses: 121 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Allied ground losses: 80 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled) [image]local://upfiles/6829/88C594EDA8084B218DD54EB192944278.jpg[/image]

seydlitz_slith -> RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (Allies) (5/24/2010 12:50:09 PM)
In Thailand and on the upper Malay peninsula he has moved forces down from Burma in hopes of capturing Bangkok. The Thai units are pitiful. Not worth the rice that it takes to feed them. I have dispatched forces via ship to reinforce the area and get things back under control, but of course this means that these forces are not being used in other places. [image]local://upfiles/6829/73D722334DE7448AB6371CCE3C9E4E6F.jpg[/image]

seydlitz_slith -> RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (Allies) (5/24/2010 12:54:29 PM)
In Sumatra, I am attempting to take Palembang by aerial invasion. About a month ago I landed two para units at undefended bases. Using these bases as a bridgehead, I have been steadily flying in more troops and supplies. I now have two pincers closing in on the capital and hope to win the battle without having to conduct an amphibious assault. [image]local://upfiles/6829/5C9934FBDF6A4FFDB5D512287E03A185.jpg[/image]

offenseman -> RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (Allies) (5/25/2010 12:50:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: seydlitz The Thai units are pitiful. Agreed. I find they are most useful for meeting garrison requirements and "maskirovka"

seydlitz_slith -> RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (Allies) (5/25/2010 2:07:10 AM)
Turn 174 29 May, 1942 Not much happened during the turn other than one of my I boats intercepting CLAA Atlanta off San Diego and putting a torpedo into her. If she is lucky she should make port, but that class of ship is fragile, not being much larger than a destroyer leader. While I wish that I had got a shot at the transports, I am very happy about the hit on the AA cruiser as it will put her out of the war for quite a while. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 29, 42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near San Diego at 224,83 Japanese Ships SS I-18 Allied Ships CLAA Atlanta, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage AP Heywood AP Harris DD O'Brien SS I-18 launches 6 torpedoes at CLAA Atlanta I-18 diving deep .... DD O'Brien attacking submerged sub .... DD O'Brien cannot reach attack position over SS I-18 DD O'Brien cannot establish contact with SS I-18 DD O'Brien fails to find sub, continues to search... DD O'Brien attacking submerged sub .... DD O'Brien fails to find sub, continues to search... DD O'Brien attacking submerged sub .... DD O'Brien cannot reach attack position over SS I-18 SS I-18 eludes ASW attack from DD O'Brien DD O'Brien loses contact with SS I-18 Escort abandons search for sub [image]local://upfiles/6829/06DFD26FE00E46229A1212FC8D5A1423.jpg[/image]

seydlitz_slith -> RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (Allies) (5/25/2010 2:11:41 AM)
I-18 now needs to head for the home islands as she has emptied all of her forward torpedoes during her 45 day patrol. Her spot in the blockade line will be taken by the sub directly north of her, and a newly arriving I boat will fill that subs old station in a day or two depending on the weather. This might be just in time as one of my Glens has detected a convoy of tankers building in the port and I want to be ready to intercept. I try to keep a sub within range to fly recon flights over the major California ports every turn. [image]local://upfiles/6829/FE12E68C70354416844D29D676D9F6AB.jpg[/image]

offenseman -> RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (Allies) (5/25/2010 2:20:10 AM)
How much oil and resources are you getting out of the Soviet Union?

seydlitz_slith -> RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (Allies) (5/25/2010 4:18:05 AM)
None yet, but when I get through with the campaign I should be in possession of a fair amount of oil. I can't remember how much off the top of my head, but it is also close to home which matters a lot.

ComradeP -> RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (Allies) (5/25/2010 11:36:55 AM)
Seydlitz, what's the situation at Petropavlovsk-Kamchatskiy and what are your plans for the future in that area?

seydlitz_slith -> RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (Allies) (5/25/2010 12:55:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ComradeP Seydlitz, what's the situation at Petropavlovsk-Kamchatskiy and what are your plans for the future in that area? Pretty quiet for now in that area. He still has some bombers based there that occaisionally bomb my northern islands. I have chosen to leave that pocket of resistance alone, keeping a sub on patrol up there just in case he tries to ship in allied forces. I would like to take this port, but it will be a low priority and will be done only after I wrap up the other targets on the mainland and only if I do not need the troops elsewhere.

ComradeP -> RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (Allies) (5/25/2010 6:51:50 PM)
Won't increased forts (due to leaving the base alone) be a serious problem when you choose to invade in the future, especially considering what happened to your first landing there?

seydlitz_slith -> RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (Allies) (5/25/2010 11:31:11 PM)
Yes. In fact they are already a problem in other locations. It means that I will have to come with a much larger force.

seydlitz_slith -> RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (Allies) (5/26/2010 2:05:29 AM)
Turn 175 30 May, 1942 Not much happened this turn. The only thing worth note was the I-20 put another torpedo into the CLAA Atlanta off San Diego. This should pretty well do that ship in as she is not large enough to handle two torpedoes. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 30, 42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near San Diego at 224,83 Japanese Ships SS I-20 Allied Ships CLAA Atlanta, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage SS I-20 launches 6 torpedoes [image]local://upfiles/6829/26C51F6DE77643D68ECA02CFCF58FBD8.jpg[/image]

seydlitz_slith -> RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (Allies) (6/22/2010 1:41:38 AM)
Turn 195 June 19, 1942 I haven't updated in a while, but the game has continued apace. I find myself in a bad situation in mid-1942 for the first time as a Japanese player. The Russian campaign has continued to tie up resources well beyond the timeframe that I had originally expected. Even worse, victory there is by no means a sure thing. I am engaged on multiple fronts with enough forces to stay in the battle but not enough to win anywhere. In order to pull away from the stalemate, I abandoned my ongoing seige of Alexandrovsk and moved the troops to Gavan in two waves with a third wave destined for Rashin and the Vladivostok front. [image]local://upfiles/6829/61A697260A10457093788863F9E42C80.jpg[/image]

seydlitz_slith -> RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (Allies) (6/22/2010 1:45:36 AM)
Turn 195 June 19, 1942 In China, I advanced as far as Sian, but Mark had fortified the place and put every bit of supply and all units that he could muster there behind the heavy fort levels. At the limit of my supply chain, I held no hope of taking the place. Accordingly, I retreated my forces to Loyang to restore supplies and rebuild. However, as you can tell, I have supply shortages cropping up all over China and no spare supplies to send as the black hole of Russia commands all spare supply to be sent there to keep the massive forces engaged at Vladivostok supplied. [image]local://upfiles/6829/1148F34C6D5C4A378C33FC708ED1A4F0.jpg[/image]

seydlitz_slith -> RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (Allies) (6/22/2010 1:47:44 AM)
In the DEI, I have been unable to close the deal at Singapore. I need more troops and airpower. Both are tied up fighting Russians. [image]local://upfiles/6829/378304FC1D0140DCB0E260311E224270.jpg[/image]

seydlitz_slith -> RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (Allies) (6/22/2010 1:50:41 AM)
Since I was stretched thin, I didn't even try to advance on Rangoon. He sensed this and began a counter offensive in Thailand. [image]local://upfiles/6829/9ABC534D8C244C7E8862988ADFC5ACAE.jpg[/image]

seydlitz_slith -> RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (Allies) (6/22/2010 1:51:24 AM)
Celebes...same [image]local://upfiles/6829/CB054C5D66EF4609B595B43635F7467E.jpg[/image]

seydlitz_slith -> RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (Allies) (6/22/2010 1:52:17 AM)
The Rabaul theater. I do have a huge base built up at Manus that Mark knows nothing about. [image]local://upfiles/6829/2AF8B51CC62A4130809A56CA49C2C3AF.jpg[/image]

seydlitz_slith -> RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (Allies) (6/22/2010 1:52:53 AM)
Last turn he took Tarawa. [image]local://upfiles/6829/3C59E9897739451C82CB85885EDB5AC3.jpg[/image]

seydlitz_slith -> RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (Allies) (6/22/2010 1:54:36 AM)
Aircraft losses have been moderate over the past six months. I still have all of my carriers, as does he. I have, however, lost several battleships while fighting the Soviets. [image]local://upfiles/6829/5D5D70D94A7040F6ABD00F3C398C1DAE.jpg[/image]

seydlitz_slith -> RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (Allies) (7/9/2010 1:30:20 AM)
June 23, 1942 The Japanese have finally captured Vladivostok. 50,900 Soviet troops surrendered or were casualties in the final assault. I watched my engineers reduce the fortification level from 4 to 3 to 2 to 1 to 0 during the same combat phase. Never seen that before. After that, my 5987 AV of troops crushed his less than 500 AV of troops. I have bombed his troops there for months with everything that could fly and finally broke his supply stockpiles. This makes all the difference. I have immediately set all troops to rest for a few turns. All of my bombers are standing down to rest and replenish. Minesweepers are enroute to sweep the mines in the harbor, and multiple large troop convoys are enroute to pick up the southern and 14th army units to take them south to close the deal at Singapore as well as to reinforce Bangkok. Most of my bombers will be going south soon also. The korean and kwangtung army units will rest for a few days and then start working to roll up the trans-siberian railway clearing out the other half of his army that was not at Vladivostok. I should be able to do this with these forces as I have already beat them two or three times in battle already.

jonreb31 -> RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (Allies) (7/9/2010 2:06:16 AM)
Important win... maybe now you can remedy the situation in the Pacific before it's too late.

janh -> RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (Allies) (7/9/2010 9:56:33 AM)
Give us more!! ... information! This is one of the most interesting AARs!

seydlitz_slith -> RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (Allies) (7/10/2010 4:50:11 PM)
Here are the details from the last combat at Vladivostok. The turn was the June 26th, 1942 turn and not the 23rd as earlier reported. Ground combat at Vladivostok (112,46) Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 199971 troops, 1960 guns, 1225 vehicles, Assault Value = 5789 Defending force 27694 troops, 1013 guns, 15 vehicles, Assault Value = 476 Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0 Japanese adjusted assault: 5789 Allied adjusted defense: 295 Japanese assault odds: 19 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese forces CAPTURE Vladivostok !!! Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses No Allied losses Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), supply(-) Attacker: shock(+) Japanese ground losses: 3339 casualties reported Squads: 33 destroyed, 480 disabled Non Combat: 88 destroyed, 380 disabled Engineers: 3 destroyed, 76 disabled Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled) Vehicles lost 170 (53 destroyed, 117 disabled) Allied ground losses: 50221 casualties reported Squads: 1693 destroyed, 481 disabled Non Combat: 3455 destroyed, 570 disabled Engineers: 116 destroyed, 29 disabled Guns lost 1666 (1535 destroyed, 131 disabled) Vehicles lost 20 (16 destroyed, 4 disabled) Units destroyed 25 Assaulting units: 4th Tank Regiment 11th Tank Regiment 2nd Tank Regiment 14th Division 16th Recon Regiment 29th Division 23rd Division 21st Division 36th Infantry Regiment 12th Division 27th Electric Engineer Regiment 11th Division 57th Division 9th Division 7th Tank Regiment 48th Recon Regiment 5th Infantry Regiment 21st Ind. Engineer Regiment 19th Division 4th Division 24th Division 25th Division 26th Recon Regiment 8th Mountain Gun Regiment 2nd Hvy.Artillery Regiment 4th RF Gun Battalion 12th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 4th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment 20th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 22nd Medium Field Artillery Regiment 5th Army 8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 7th RF Gun Battalion 3rd Army 48th Field Artillery Regiment 9th Ind. Engineer Regiment 7th Ind. Engineer Regiment 15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 22nd Ind. Engineer Regiment 6th Army 46th Road Const Co 1st Mobile Field Artillery Regiment 47th Road Const Co 7th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 5th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 3rd RF Gun Battalion 9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 14th Army 48th Road Const Co 2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion Defending units: 105th Rifle Division 40th Rifle Division 190th Rifle Division 22nd Rifle Division Vladivostok Naval Fortress 13th Naval Infantry Brigade 59th Rifle Division 247th Rifle Brigade 83rd VVS Base Force 33rd VVS Base Force 50th Cannon Regiment 1125th Cannon Regiment 273rd Cannon Regiment 46th Engr-Sapper Brigade 1192nd BM Howitzer Regiment Soviet Far East Cmd Soviet Pacific Fleet 25th Army 1139th Cannon Regiment 199th BM Howitzer Regiment 9th Air Army 100th OM Howitzer Battalion 165th Hvy Howitzer Regiment 78th/186th PVO AA Battalion VVS Outpost Base Force 372nd Hvy Howitzer Regiment 98th VVS Base Force Japanese forces CAPTURE Vladivostok !!! 105th Rifle Division SURRENDERS !!! 40th Rifle Division SURRENDERS !!! 190th Rifle Division SURRENDERS !!! 22nd Rifle Division SURRENDERS !!! Vladivostok Naval Fortress SURRENDERS !!! 13th Naval Infantry Brigade SURRENDERS !!! 59th Rifle Division SURRENDERS !!! 247th Rifle Brigade SURRENDERS !!! 83rd VVS Base Force SURRENDERS !!! 33rd VVS Base Force SURRENDERS !!! 50th Cannon Regiment SURRENDERS !!! 1125th Cannon Regiment SURRENDERS !!! 273rd Cannon Regiment SURRENDERS !!! 46th Engr-Sapper Brigade SURRENDERS !!! 1192nd BM Howitzer Regiment SURRENDERS !!! Soviet Far East Cmd SURRENDERS !!! Soviet Pacific Fleet SURRENDERS !!! 1139th Cannon Regiment SURRENDERS !!! 199th BM Howitzer Regiment SURRENDERS !!! 100th OM Howitzer Battalion SURRENDERS !!! 165th Hvy Howitzer Regiment SURRENDERS !!! 78th/186th PVO AA Battalion SURRENDERS !!! VVS Outpost Base Force SURRENDERS !!! 372nd Hvy Howitzer Regiment SURRENDERS !!! 98th VVS Base Force SURRENDERS !!!

offenseman -> RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (Allies) (7/10/2010 4:53:22 PM)
Comrade Stalin will not be pleased. It will be real interesting to see where this goes from here. If you can close out the Soviets, then you can turn west with overwhelming force. That would be fun to watch.

seydlitz_slith -> June 27, 1942 (7/10/2010 5:00:27 PM)
As you can see by the post prior, for 25 soviet units to comprise only 476 AV, it is pretty clear that these troops were pounded into mush by the daily bombardments and airfield attacks. After I was certain that I had destroyed the airfield and port, I moved to attacking the ground troops with the bombers. Due to the fort level there were very few indications of casualties from the attack so I had to go on faith that I was doing damage. Now, my troops set in Vladivostok, red exclaimation point denoting short supply, the port and airfield bombed to rubble. The battle sucked a significant amount of supply out of not only Korea, but out of China and Japan throughout the course of the conflict. The forces involved were so massive that I had no choice other than to continue to feed the monster in hopes that I could win. Now that I have finally won this battle, I must generate and move needed supplies back into Korea and China. This will take a few weeks to do. Here is the current theater map: [image]local://upfiles/6829/DB17493509BE411B9EDB895876D9E56F.jpg[/image]

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