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fbs -> RE: BB North Carolina (9/27/2009 6:51:34 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Yank

She looks like she's in much better shape than some of the WWII ships I have toured recently. For example, here in Massachussets we have the USS Massachusetts in Fall River and the USS Salem (CA) on display in Quincy. Both are literally falling apart, especially the USS Salem which is in deplorable condition. It's very sad to see these magnificnet ships decaying - Salem was once the flagship of the Med Fleet (6th?). I believe both are privately run operations and there is obviously not sufficient money to properly preserve them.

I can see the need in the not so distant future to have the Salem sent off to the breakers before she literally rusts to death at her berth.



Don't lose hope. HMS Warrior was just an oil pontoon, and now is being restored to pristine conditions (with a lot of rebuilding, that is). Restoration can work miracles (specially if the ship doesn't actually need to go out to sea).

Now, if there was one ship that is truly heartbreaking to see scrapped, that was the Goeben. I would have gone all the way to Turkey just to visit her, but she's completely gone now. Similarly to Enterprise (CV 6), I can't believe there was not enough interest to preserve her.


Cheers,
fbs



John Lansford -> RE: BB North Carolina (9/27/2009 10:14:13 PM)

USS North Carolina just recently underwent a big rehab job, cleaning and painting everything and replacing some of the teak decking.  The NC legislature balked a bit about coming up with the money but eventually authorized it.  I've visited her many times and always enjoy getting to walk her decks.  Only a few hours away helps too!



pompack -> RE: BB North Carolina (9/27/2009 11:59:27 PM)

Surface Fire Control Computer from USS Alabama 2007

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eMonticello -> RE: BB North Carolina (9/28/2009 1:26:00 AM)

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ORIGINAL: gunnergoz

Very nice photos and it is good to see her in such well-maintained condition.  I was on the Alabama in Mobile Bay back in the early '80's and she was in pretty decent condition then - wonder how she is now?  The Navy had actually just stripped out one of the 16" mechanical/analog fire control computers on the Alabama to be shipped to one of the then reactivating Iowas, so the Alabama, at least, was being used as a spare parts locker of sorts.   I think their 16" guns were of a different mark than those on the Iowas, but apparently they could modify the computer to compensate.  IIRC it was the size of a pool table but it was made of a solid steel outer casing and inside was filled with a horrendous collection of brass gears and shafts.  Later, I got to see one of the Iowas when it visited Subic Bay in the Philippines; I think it was the New Jersey but I don't recall after all this time.  Anyway, I was just up the road at Cubi Point at the time and it was a worthwhile visit.  She was in much the same condition within as is the North Carolina now...not bad, considering.


There are still a few gun barrels at the Naval Surface Weapons Center in Dahlgren. If you google map the NSWC Credit Union address near the gun range, you'll see a few of the 16" gun barrels and the test gun (17320 Dahlgren Rd). Here's another link of interest. http://wikimapia.org/13653329/USS-Pennsylvania-BB-38-main-gun-barrels



TDeacon -> RE: BB North Carolina (9/28/2009 4:42:06 AM)

(from "Yank"): <quote>She looks like she's in much better shape than some of the WWII ships I have toured recently. For example, here in Massachussets we have the USS Massachusetts in Fall River and the USS Salem (CA) on display in Quincy. Both are literally falling apart, especially the USS Salem which is in deplorable condition. It's very sad to see these magnificnet ships decaying - Salem was once the flagship of the Med Fleet (6th?). I believe both are privately run operations and there is obviously not sufficient money to properly preserve them. <unquote>

I visited Massachusetts last year, and she didn't look that bad. Similar to the North Carolina in these pictures.

Mark H.




Fallschirmjager -> RE: BB North Carolina (9/28/2009 6:47:01 AM)

Gorgeous
I need to make the trip over to see her

Besides the Boise my #2 favorite ship from AE

Are their any Brooklyn class CLs that survive?



eMonticello -> RE: BB North Carolina (9/28/2009 12:06:44 PM)

USS Little Rock (Cleveland Class) is the only surviving Light Cruiser in the US. http://www.buffalonavalpark.org/USSLittleRock.html



Mark VII -> RE: BB North Carolina (9/28/2009 12:42:03 PM)

A CL, DD and a sub! Looks interesting should I ever go near Buffalo. Depending on how far they let you go below decks, that could take most of a day.

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ORIGINAL: eMonticello

USS Little Rock (Cleveland Class) is the only surviving Light Cruiser in the US. http://www.buffalonavalpark.org/USSLittleRock.html




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