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PresterJohn001 -> RE: But Not in Shame (6/9/2010 8:44:17 PM)

Excellent AAR, thanks for writing and best luck in your next games!



FatR -> RE: But Not in Shame (6/9/2010 9:56:19 PM)

Well, that certainly was a great AAR to read, and your/Q-Ball's double AARs offer excellent learning material. Thanks for your efforts.



Kwik E Mart -> RE: But Not in Shame (6/9/2010 10:40:29 PM)

CF, from reading this AAR I get the impression you are a gentleman - a quality that is somewhat rare to find these days. Your gracious nature and sporting attitude certainly comes thru while reading this epic. Many thanks for taking the time tor write this AAR. I know having to "bare one's soul" while going down in defeat is not an easy task, so kudo's to you, sir! [&o]



Chickenboy -> RE: But Not in Shame (6/9/2010 11:47:36 PM)

Cuttlefish,

Like others have said-this has been a very informative and easy to read AAR. You gave valuable insight not only on strategic and tactical actions, but also on a reader friendly format that was easy to digest. You're a good writer, and I thank you for your contributions to this great gaming community.

I would love to jump at the opportunity to play you in any capacity and would enjoy the production of an AAR. Alas, my dance card is full for the forseeable future. I do intend to use the hard lessons learned in your and Q-ball's game and AARs for my personal benefit and to continue the spirit of gamesmanship and comaradarie that you have both displayed for all to see.

Many thanks again.

P.S. (whispered) Banzai...



thegreatwent -> RE: But Not in Shame (6/10/2010 5:44:04 AM)

Thanks CF. You and Q-Ball both represent the best of this games community.



CaptBeefheart -> RE: But Not in Shame (6/10/2010 6:31:06 AM)

Thanks for the enjoyable and enlightening AAR, and better luck next time.

Cheers,
CC



Lomri -> RE: But Not in Shame (6/10/2010 7:50:16 PM)


This was an awesome AAR to read - thanks a ton CF. Having both of you guys write AARs was both entertaining for us readers, but also an excellent way to enhance the game for you two - to see the "What if" and the "Whoa that was close" moments.

One question I have, if you don't mind. Back when Q was planning the Wake diversion I seem to recall a discussion on whether it was a 'cheap' move or not. From the sounds of it, you don't feel that way, nor did really anyone (if I remember right), but I thought it was an interesting thing for Q to bring up. What was your reaction to that discussion, reading it after the fact?




Cuttlefish -> RE: But Not in Shame (6/10/2010 8:20:36 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lomri


This was an awesome AAR to read - thanks a ton CF. Having both of you guys write AARs was both entertaining for us readers, but also an excellent way to enhance the game for you two - to see the "What if" and the "Whoa that was close" moments.

One question I have, if you don't mind. Back when Q was planning the Wake diversion I seem to recall a discussion on whether it was a 'cheap' move or not. From the sounds of it, you don't feel that way, nor did really anyone (if I remember right), but I thought it was an interesting thing for Q to bring up. What was your reaction to that discussion, reading it after the fact?


It was interesting reading that bit in the AAR. It kind of foreshadowed the thread regarding the destroyer sent to find KB that came out of the Canoerebel/Miller game. I had no problem with it, in fact I was filled with admiration that the amount of thought that Q-Ball put into his diversion.

There are limits to the kind of missions that I will send my virtual troops on, especially when playing as the Allies, but my perspective on the game may have been skewed a bit by writing the Hibiki AAR back in WITP. I tend to look at things from the perspective of the troops involved. I do not have a problem when my opponents use such tactics.




crsutton -> RE: But Not in Shame (6/11/2010 10:37:11 PM)

Ok, enough idle chit chat. Switch sides and start the next one....[:D]



Astarix -> RE: But Not in Shame (6/11/2010 11:48:31 PM)


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Will you be playing Japan again, or is it time to try the forces of goodness and light?


Japan next, I think. I want to try and get it right (that is, lose less badly). But I also want to start a game as the Allies soon. There's one quote that I dimly recall, one that isn't in my book. I think it was by Field Marshall Model after watching Allied forces on the attack in Europe, something to the effect of "Just once, to command such power!"




The author of the quote was Lieutenant General Karl Student. The father of the German paratroopers, as he watched the 82nd airborne landings from his HQ near Nijmegan. Model was too preoccupied with running for his life from his HQ near Oosterbeek as he was convinced that the airborne landings in Arnhem were meant to capture him personally. He was the only significant military target he could think of, located in the Arnhem area.




Cuttlefish -> RE: But Not in Shame (6/12/2010 12:18:35 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Astarix


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ORIGINAL: Cuttlefish


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ORIGINAL: cap_and_gown

Will you be playing Japan again, or is it time to try the forces of goodness and light?


Japan next, I think. I want to try and get it right (that is, lose less badly). But I also want to start a game as the Allies soon. There's one quote that I dimly recall, one that isn't in my book. I think it was by Field Marshall Model after watching Allied forces on the attack in Europe, something to the effect of "Just once, to command such power!"


The author of the quote was Lieutenant General Karl Student. The father of the German paratroopers, as he watched the 82nd airborne landings from his HQ near Nijmegan. Model was too preoccupied with running for his life from his HQ near Oosterbeek as he was convinced that the airborne landings in Arnhem were meant to capture him personally. He was the only significant military target he could think of, located in the Arnhem area.


Ah, thank you. At least I had the right battle. The quote is from "A Bridge to Far":

"This mighty spectacle deeply impressed me. I thought with reflection and longing of our own airborne operations and I said to Reinhard, 'Oh, if ever I'd had such means at my disposal. Just once, to have this many planes!'"




Feinder -> RE: But Not in Shame (6/12/2010 12:36:33 AM)

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The author of the quote was Lieutenant General Karl Student. The father of the German paratroopers, as he watched the 82nd airborne landings from his HQ near Nijmegan. Model was too preoccupied with running for his life from his HQ near Oosterbeek as he was convinced that the airborne landings in Arnhem were meant to capture him personally. He was the only significant military target he could think of, located in the Arnhem area. 



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ComradeP -> RE: But Not in Shame (6/12/2010 11:29:17 AM)

Good game Cuttlefish, you didn't get any breaks yet still tried to hold on for longer than some of us had expected. I hope the breaks will be more evenly divided in the next game, with less one-sided encounters favouring the Allies in the early game as one of the things this AAR has shown is that if the Allies get lucky in 1942/1943, they can achieve quite a bit.

Astarix: the name of the Dutch city is "Nijmegen", not "Nijmegan".



SuluSea -> RE: But Not in Shame (6/12/2010 6:20:23 PM)

Congratulations to the both of you , entertaining to the end.



Cuttlefish -> RE: But Not in Shame (6/12/2010 8:38:01 PM)


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ORIGINAL: crsutton

Ok, enough idle chit chat. Switch sides and start the next one....[:D]


Request granted!




Canoerebel -> RE: But Not in Shame (6/14/2010 7:49:43 PM)

Cuttlefish, congrats on winding the game up and completing your excellent AAR.  I've been gone for a three-week tour of the Rocky Mountain States, so I'm a bit tardy in catching up.  I wasn't aware the game was concluded until just a few minutes ago.  I really enjoyed following both AARs and it was most refreshing to view a contest between capable opponents who are the finest of gentlemen.  Good luck on your next endeavor!



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