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Garry Owen -> The dreaded 2nd turn! (10/6/2009 10:00:22 PM)
Scenario 7 - Grand Campaign vs AI - Calm China Finally got up my nerve to start the dreaded turn 2. Any suggestions are welcome. I think I'm going to start with the Pacific bases. If I figure what units I want to move where, then I can either start moving those units, or barring that, start prepping them for the move.Here's the status of those bases now: [image]http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o253/irvdon/Image-0010.jpg[/image] The atolls - All atolls limit troop capacity to 6000. Therefore, these garrisons will, more or less, consist of the following units: A Base Force Marine Def Bn Artillery unit Some engineers Patrol squadron Maybe some fighters. I will begin building fortifications, but with the exception of Baker Island, forego improving airfields or ports. The larger islands- These garrisons will, for the most part, be at least RCT equivalents together with appropriate supporting units. Garrisoning the Atolls Pearl Harbor is closed until Nagumo decides to go home, so I look around to see what else is available. Turns out that, just south of Canton Island, there’s TF 407 headed to Suva transporting two base forces and an arty brigade to Suva. Suva can wait! I need these guys elsewhere. I break up the TF as follows: xAP Chaumont with 115th USAAF Base Force aboard is redirected to Noumea. Noumea is a level 2 port and the 115th is loaded in strategic mode, so the unloading will take a while, but is doable. 115th begin preparing for Noumea. xAP Republic carrying the 114th USAAF Base Force aboard continues to Suva. I want to send it to Lugarville, but Lugarville is a level 1 port, and the 114th is loaded in strategic mode, so I’ll have to unload at Suva, reload onto a amphib TF using some small Aks brought over from Noumea, and then send it Lugarville. 114th preps for Lugarville AP Bloemfontein and AK Coast Farmer, loaded with the 131st FA Bn are sent to Canton to unload their wares and then proceed to Pearl Harbor. Unit starts prepping The remainder of TF 407 carrying the 148th FA Bn and the 147th FA Regt will proceed to PH, The arty units will be unloaded, then reloaded in combat mode and then sent to Palmyra and Johnston. I’m going to have to wait until the dust settles at Pearl before moving any more units to the atolls, but I can select them and start preparations now. Midway - OK for now. Later, I’ll set up CS supplies and fuel, and bring up some engineers when they become available Canton - The CPNABs will withdraw soon. As soon as Nagumo goes home and shipping becomes available, I’ll bring the 118th USAAF Base Force and the 3rd Marine Defense Bn down from Pearl. Units start prepping now. Baker - Port is level 0, so D Det USN Port Svc and 2nd USMC Engr Regt will be brought down to improve the port. Once that is done, I'll look around for a garrison. Palmyra - 119th USAAF Base Force and 4th Marine Def Bn will be sent down from Pearl Johnston - I’m going to leave it alone for now. There are some stateside Bfs that I could bring over, but they provide lots of support, and can be better utilized elsewhere. One of those elsewheres is Christmas Island, so when I get around to San Diego, I'll load the 101st USN BF and send it over. Here's what the Pacific bases will look like once the dust settles: [image]http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o253/irvdon/Image-0012.jpg[/image] Next: West Coast

scott64 -> RE: The dreaded 2nd turn! (10/6/2009 11:06:18 PM)
Forget about Baker and Canton. Too hard to resupply until 1943. [8\|]

Kull -> RE: The dreaded 2nd turn! (10/7/2009 4:06:39 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Garry Owen Scenario 7 - Grand Campaign vs AI - Calm China Finally got up my nerve to start the dreaded turn 2. Any suggestions are welcome. First thing is - don't create spreadsheets manually. WitP Tracker will output most of the starting position data, and then you can add columns or rows for the new things you want to do at each base. Go see the sticky thread on the AE main forum page for details on where to get the program and how to install and use it. You'll spend maybe half an hour on that, and then everything else is data-download gravy.

Garry Owen -> RE: The dreaded 2nd turn! (10/8/2009 12:31:48 AM)
West Coast General Smaller transport types ( <4000 tons ) will be used whenever possible to transport troops and supplies to PH. These vessels are badly needed to transport goods between the Pacific bases. TKs displacing less than 6000 tons will be sent to PH. Larger TKs will be sent south. All unrestricted ground units not assigned to TFs will change to strategic mode and move by rail to SF Balboa CL Trenton sent to Pearl Harbor San Diego 110th USA BF begins prep for Johnston Island 2nd USMC Def Bn begins prep for Baker Island C Det USN Port Svc begins prep for Baker Island Transport TF 56 consisting of all smaller AKs, the two smaller TKs, and escorts formed to transport 110th USA BF, 101st USN BF and C Det USN Port Svc to PH. Larger transports and As Fulton sent to SF Remaining TKs and AO Cuyama escorted by AVD Ballard, AVP Teal, and AVP Pelican will load fuel and await TKs from LA. The combined TF will proceed to Pago Pago. Upon arrival at PP Ballard, Teal, and Pelican will continue to Cairns. Saratoga and DDs form air combat TF 86 VP-43 set to ASW patrol arc 190-280 Los Angeles 113th USAAF BF begins prep for Koumac TKs and AO will load fuel and proceed to San Diego Small AKs and AKLs load supplies and proceed to Pearl Harbor Larger transports go to SF San Francisco 112th USA BF begins prep for Cairns 111 USN BF begins prep for Cairns 56th Cst Arty Regt begins prep for Christmas 47th Const Regt begins prep for Noumea TFs from Mare Island and Alameda brought to SF Unrestricted ground units set to strategic mode 3 small ~3000 ton AKs assigned to Automatic Convey System Turn on Automatic Convoy for out-of-the-way Alaskan and Canadian bases TF 109 loads 47th Const Regt for trans to Noumea 3 small AKs load 56th Cst Arty Regt for trans to Christmas Remainder small AKs and AKls load supplies and Hawaiian aircraft for trans to PH TKs and AOs load fuel for trans to Pago Pago Remainder of large Aks load 112th BF, 111th BF, and 7th BG for trans to Brisbane Note: The 7th Bomber Group is assigned to V Bomber Command which in turn is assigned to SWPAC. Portland Naval and ground units sent to SF Tacoma 205th FA Bn sent to SF Seattle BB Colorado and BB Warspite enter shipyard for repair 2 small AKs and a small TK form CS: Anchorage CS Dutch Harbor formed 2AKs TK Unrestricted ground units to SF in strat mode Small AKs load supplies for trans to PH Remainder of AKs and TKs deadhead to SF Oh Canada! Escort type ships to SF Anchorage Small AKs to Pearl Large AKs to SF Eastern USA 22nd Bomber Group and 31st Pursuit group transferred to SF Next: Pearl Harbor

OldCanuck -> RE: The dreaded 2nd turn! (10/8/2009 12:49:10 AM)
Thanks. This is very helpful. In my two scenario 1 starts, the Japanese AI went after both Canton and Baker in December. I wouldn't ignore them, and keep a task force handy to defend them.

Garry Owen -> RE: The dreaded 2nd turn! (10/8/2009 1:30:06 AM)
Well, Lexington and Enterprise have to go somewhere until Pearl cools down

DivePac88 -> RE: The dreaded 2nd turn! (10/8/2009 2:16:09 PM)
In PBEM; I use Lady Lex and Enterprise to cover Pearl Harbor for a few weeks after 7 December, just in case the Japanese follow-up with an invasion. If your opponent shows up with an invasion fleet you can transfer your Carrier air groups to Pearl Harbor, and run your Carriers out of harms way.

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