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Central Blue -> RE: Amphibious invasion of Pearl Harbor - results (1/13/2010 10:08:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58 1) The Oahu CD is one LCU with, I think, the max number of kinds of devices spannning a huge range of size and capability. Which makes me wonder if anyone has tried adjusting the CD unit itself? Perhaps those disparate devices would perform better if they weren't all grouped together? Perhaps there is a shortage of slots, but if not, even as "chrome" it might be nice to see the various forts and batteries.

Bullwinkle58 -> RE: Amphibious invasion of Pearl Harbor - results (1/13/2010 10:18:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: John Lansford Bullwinkle, The point I'm making is there are a certain category of units called "forts" or "fortresses" that have fixed guns in CD roles, and I'd expect they would have more advanced FC systems than the more mobile units have. If it were possible to give those units with CD guns a firing bonus against invaders, it might help reduce the problem we're seeing right now. If you disagree with this, then what is YOUR suggestion to try and fix this? I'm simply saying that on a technical basis using the strings "fort" or "fortress", as found in the DB, to call a sub-routine doesn't necessarily lead one to a highly evolved, sea-side base hex. It can lead one to Dehli. Other bases which did have these defense features, like Oahu, aren't called either term in the DB and would miss having the sub-routine called. I was speaking to a technical, code-type issue with the suggestion. If you sort the Artillery unit type (the yellow selections across the top of the Land Unit window) into Arty and CD unit types (left-most column), about 50% by eyeball are either forts or fortresses in the LCU name. Most are nothing like what you're suggesting. Some have no tube guns at all. I didn't realize this until I went digging into the list. CD units are the forgotten few in my games. Until this thread I had never really looked at TOEs, names, national differences, etc. Over the course of a week plus on this, I've come to the conclusion that it's better to leave things alone and use HRs if one fears Japanese mischief. Overall, as others have siad, I think that an interesting game can be achieved if the Japanese player does try to take Oahu. He might not get it, he might get it with huge casualties, and then what does he do with it? If it's Jan or Feb 1942, the Allied player has ten months to act to prevent an auto-vicotry, and tying up 300+ plus ships on the eastern map has to mean the Japanese aren't doing something they ought to be doing elsewhere. It's a different kind of game, but still very interesting. If that doesn't suit, HRs could run the gamut from "Attack no hex the RL Japanese didn't" to a mid-point where Oahu or other RL "fortresses" like Singapore by sea, might be attackable, but only with transport TF's totaling 30 ships (35, 40, 45 . . .) or less in the hex at once. This reduces the "offload wave" we've been discussing and gives the CD LCUs many kicks at different cats. If you can take PH after 8-9 days of continuous offloading, with Allied responses from the West Coast and interim land attacks by well-supplied American LCUs on Oahu while you build numbers and try to un-disrupt them, then I think you deserve to have it. But the kind of changes being discussed, done to punish PBEM-only, early war exploits, risks really breaking the game later on, for the reasons I and others tried to outline. Eliminating the Japanese submarine doctrine toggle has had some consequences perhaps the devs didn't foresee, but it's the way things are. When you put that ahistorical truth up against an inflexible, finite Allied OOB, you have to be careful with any other fundamental changes you make to casualty-producing pieces of the model.

John Lansford -> RE: Amphibious invasion of Pearl Harbor - results (1/13/2010 10:28:36 PM)
Bullwinkle, I kind of doubt that anyone would need to worry about the Delhi fortress firing on an amphibious TF trying to unload troops. If the fortresses don't have CD guns at all, then they don't get the bonus; how difficult is that? "But the kind of changes being discussed, done to punish PBEM-only, early war exploits..." Really? It kind of breaks the realism for me, a non "PBEM-only" player, to know that if I were to play the Japanese I could invade Singapore, Bataan and Pearl Harbor with relative impunity early in the war. Similarly, I see no reason to fear that enhancing dug in, fixed fortifications a defense bonus risks "breaking" the game later on for the Allies. There's a reason why the Allies sent BB's along with invasion fleets, and also avoided the kinds of defenses found at Singapore and Bataan; they were tough to defeat and the risk of heavy damage was too high. Now the game does not reflect that; just send a large invasion force to any base and you can take it with minimal casualties. I see you believe there's no problem, which is not really a surprise since that's been your position all along. I also remember you're arrogant enough to believe you're correct even when everyone else disagrees to you, so again, not really a surprise. I see little reason to discuss this issue any longer with you.

John Lansford -> RE: Amphibious invasion of Pearl Harbor - results (1/13/2010 10:30:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Central Blue quote: ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58 1) The Oahu CD is one LCU with, I think, the max number of kinds of devices spannning a huge range of size and capability. Which makes me wonder if anyone has tried adjusting the CD unit itself? Perhaps those disparate devices would perform better if they weren't all grouped together? Perhaps there is a shortage of slots, but if not, even as "chrome" it might be nice to see the various forts and batteries. Having multiple fixed CD units at Pearl Harbor seems to me to be as valid a suggestion as having two fixed positions at Sydney. Fort Kamehameha could be one, and a general "Oahu defense CD" could be another.

Central Blue -> RE: Amphibious invasion of Pearl Harbor - results (1/13/2010 10:54:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: John Lansford quote: ORIGINAL: Central Blue quote: ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58 1) The Oahu CD is one LCU with, I think, the max number of kinds of devices spannning a huge range of size and capability. Which makes me wonder if anyone has tried adjusting the CD unit itself? Perhaps those disparate devices would perform better if they weren't all grouped together? Perhaps there is a shortage of slots, but if not, even as "chrome" it might be nice to see the various forts and batteries. Having multiple fixed CD units at Pearl Harbor seems to me to be as valid a suggestion as having two fixed positions at Sydney. Fort Kamehameha could be one, and a general "Oahu defense CD" could be another. I am going to fiddle around with a test change to Bataan and launch an invasion there. I'm not really up on slot rules, so I hope it will work. I will also assign competent commanders. Two versions: One with smaller units broken down according to Fort TOE's per Niehorster, and then a version grouped by gun type. Using Niehorster's more generous number will make the test more comparable to the Oahu CD unit.

Bullwinkle58 -> RE: Amphibious invasion of Pearl Harbor - results (1/14/2010 12:32:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: John Lansford quote: Bullwinkle, I kind of doubt that anyone would need to worry about the Delhi fortress firing on an amphibious TF trying to unload troops. If the fortresses don't have CD guns at all, then they don't get the bonus; how difficult is that? Sigh. It's a CODE thing, OK? How does the game know it's a "CD gun"? Because it's in an LCU with a CD tag in the DB. And the Dehli, Bangalore, etc. bases HAVE CD LCUs. even though they're up to thousands of miles inland. The code is stupid; it does what it's told. If you institute any "CD bonus" CD LCUs are going to execute it. quote: "But the kind of changes being discussed, done to punish PBEM-only, early war exploits..." Really? It kind of breaks the realism for me, a non "PBEM-only" player, to know that if I were to play the Japanese I could invade Singapore, Bataan and Pearl Harbor with relative impunity early in the war. If it's a choice between your sense of realism and breaking my game on every amphib invasion I have to do to win, I'm going with my game. YMMV. If you're playing the Japanese against the Allied AI and you can't stop yourself from invading PH, you might need therapy more than you need code alterations. quote: Similarly, I see no reason to fear that enhancing dug in, fixed fortifications a defense bonus risks "breaking" the game later on for the Allies. There's a reason why the Allies sent BB's along with invasion fleets, and also avoided the kinds of defenses found at Singapore and Bataan; they were tough to defeat and the risk of heavy damage was too high. Now the game does not reflect that; just send a large invasion force to any base and you can take it with minimal casualties. If you disagree with my analysis, fine. I've offered interim solutions. I also don't want the devs tied up on this for months when there are other enhancments that they could be working on. Again, to each his own. quote: I see you believe there's no problem, which is not really a surprise since that's been your position all along. I also remember you're arrogant enough to believe you're correct even when everyone else disagrees to you, so again, not really a surprise. I see little reason to discuss this issue any longer with you. Clearly you haven't read the whole thread if you think everyone disagrees with me. So you're going to take your ball and go home because we disagree. Whatever. As I said last week, the green button is there if you don't want to play.

Feinder -> RE: Amphibious invasion of Pearl Harbor - results (1/14/2010 1:50:49 AM)
Just be aware that splitting units into smaller ones (as being suggested by splitting the Oahu forts), increases their overall survivability. Disruption, fatigue, morale etc degradation is applied to a unit, and if Big-Unit-1 is attacked and suffers 30% disruption, the aggregate affect is ~greater~ than if you have Sub-Unit-1a and Sub-Unit-1b. Only one of the sub-units will suffer the primary attack, and will suffer disruption. I'm not saying that's a bad thing to split up the Oahu forts. But just be careful of too much of a good thing. When doing my Midway scenario for WitP, I had included as separate LCUs what amounted to a company of Raiders, and a understrength attachemnt of AAA (beyond the standard TOE of the USMC Def Btn). While it was historically accurate (as these were indeed separate formations, albeit understrength), the effect was that it made it extremely difficult to inflict casualties on the Midway garrison because the now there were 2x additional targets to absorb attacks. -F-

John Lansford -> RE: Amphibious invasion of Pearl Harbor - results (1/14/2010 1:59:34 AM)
Feinder, I think, at least in respect to the Oahu defenses, that that's one of the conditions that made those coastal defenses so formidable. They were spread out all over the southern half of the island, knocking one out really didn't affect the others, and the command/control was so dispersed it also would have been difficult to knock out. Personally, I would separate the 'fixed' defenses (the 12" guns and mortars, the 14" and 16" guns plus the smaller 3" and 5" weapons) from the more mobile but still dedicated coast defense weapons (the 8" railroad guns, the 240mm howitzers, and the 155mm guns), mainly because the 'fixed' ones were at least partially hardened and more difficult to disable than the ones out in the open.

Central Blue -> RE: Amphibious invasion of Pearl Harbor - results (1/14/2010 4:33:53 AM)
Well, I did a basic chrome style edit of Manila Bay/Bataan defenses by creating Forts Frank, Mills, Drum, and Hughes in the Bataan hex according to info at Coast Artillery Studies Group and The Fall of the Philippines, by Louis Morton. I gave them all good stock commanders and increased their prep points to 99 since they have been prepping since before WWI. I also modified the 4th Marines to more closely match D type TOE, rather than a reinforced RLT. Like I said, chrome. Unfortunately, I don't have a place to stick the files where anyone else could get them to play around with it. I haven't played the Japanese in a long while, so I don't know how long it will take to generate an AAR. But If I understand the test, basically I need to load up a bunch of ships, assign some small escorts,and expect to sail in with ease. Given the paucity of ground forces in that hex to begin with, if the guns don't stop them, they'll be ashore with ease.

Blackhorse -> RE: Amphibious invasion of Pearl Harbor - results (1/14/2010 5:10:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Central Blue quote: ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58 1) The Oahu CD is one LCU with, I think, the max number of kinds of devices spannning a huge range of size and capability. Which makes me wonder if anyone has tried adjusting the CD unit itself? Perhaps those disparate devices would perform better if they weren't all grouped together? Perhaps there is a shortage of slots, but if not, even as "chrome" it might be nice to see the various forts and batteries. We experimented with this when first laying out the LCUs for AE. We also tried the other extreme (combining Harbor Defenses, HQs and permanent base forces into one massive blob.) It does make a difference -- it is easier to disrupt a bunch of guns in one CD unit then if they were spread out in several LCUs. But it wasn't seen as a huge issue at the time -- especially as we had to squeeze all the US LCUs into about 1,000 slots. We economized where we could. But here the major issue -- if it is in fact representative of how CD guns normally engage their targets -- does not appear to be caused by excessive disruption. It appears that every CD gun fires simultaneously at the same target, until they run out of ammo. In the first post, we see that all 12 "batteries" (weapon slots) fired together at the same 9 ships. If each battery had engaged a separate target, there is a maximum possible 108 targets they could have engaged. Not all of them would have sunk, of course, but the Japanese would have taken a hard hit to their merchant marine in order to get ashore. However, I am willing to bet that the simple change I described above would be devilishly difficult to code. And the unrealistic ability to swamp defenders (CD guns and ground units alike) by partially loading dozens or hundreds of ships so they can all unload simultaneously, is left over from WitP.

Blackhorse -> RE: Amphibious invasion of Pearl Harbor - results (1/14/2010 5:25:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Central Blue Well, I did a basic chrome style edit of Manila Bay/Bataan defenses by creating Forts Frank, Mills, Drum, and Hughes in the Bataan hex according to info at Coast Artillery Studies Group and The Fall of the Philippines, by Louis Morton. I gave them all good stock commanders and increased their prep points to 99 since they have been prepping since before WWI. I also modified the 4th Marines to more closely match D type TOE, rather than a reinforced RLT. Like I said, chrome. That all looks excellent, except for the D-type TOE for the "Horse Marines". There was nothing standard about the 4th Marines in the PI. They were way understrength -- organized into two battalions (instead of three) each with two companies (ditto) of two platoons (ditto again). After the war began they were fleshed out with Marine base guards, sailors from the Cavite garrison, Army aviators and support personnel who no longer had planes to fly/support, and weaponless Anti-aircraft artillerymen (army and marine), until they had four battalions and were overstrength. A historic note -- the 4th Marine Regiment was supposed to be in China. But for several months before Pearl Harbor, Admiral Hart was delaying all reinforcements in the PI, and refusing to send them forward to China, until eventually, there were more regimental marines in the PI than China! The US suceeded in evacuating most of the Marines from China to the PI before the war began, but ships to pick up the rest of the regiment were still enroute when the war began.

Brady -> RE: Amphibious invasion of Pearl Harbor - results (1/14/2010 5:42:08 AM)
From Osperys Fortress series, I apoligise for the quality of the image, making it fir in my Picture hosting service degraded the quality of the image. Realy Only the South Shore was covered to any apricable extent early on, the Blue arc's would the ones present at wars start the others were built during the war, and many never finished by wars end. [img]http://www.oniva.com/upload/2131/Oahusmall.jpg[/img]

bradfordkay -> RE: Amphibious invasion of Pearl Harbor - results (1/14/2010 7:01:56 AM)
Nice map, Brady. Too bad they didn't put an overlay of the suitable landing beaches on it. I have a general idea, but it would be interesting to see what the military minds of the day considered to be the vulnerable beaches.

Central Blue -> RE: Amphibious invasion of Pearl Harbor - results (1/14/2010 7:31:28 AM)
hey BH, I was in a bit of a hurry. I wasn't anymore wrong than what was there to begin with. quote: We experimented with this when first laying out the LCUs for AE. We also tried the other extreme (combining Harbor Defenses, HQs and permanent base forces into one massive blob.) It does make a difference -- it is easier to disrupt a bunch of guns in one CD unit then if they were spread out in several LCUs. But it wasn't seen as a huge issue at the time -- especially as we had to squeeze all the US LCUs into about 1,000 slots. We economized where we could. I understand that. Everyone has their favorite unit that can't be left out. And some folks (who are usually some sort of expert at something) have to play "user" during testing, and then the real users get a hold of it. And it won't be me refereeing the wrassling match between the folks that program and the folks that build the OOB's and TOE's and the folks that communicate to the buyers. [:)] And since no one is likely to ask my opinion on resolving that thorny issue of the age, I'll just keep my opinions to myself. [;)] Anyway, the AAR follows for the "chrome" version. I can't say I put a lot of energy into either side as a player. I put some planes on search for the Allies and sent out expendable surface units; and for the Japanese, I gathered up a bunch of already formed convoys and assorted TF's, and voila... I was not able to form a TF bigger than 100 ships. Did I see a claim about 300-350? Well, maybe I did something "wrong." But, on the other hand, I heard that it was so easy that nothing short of re-coding could fix the issues. The second test would allocate guns by similar type. Can we say: "Shot to pieces ma?" Will they take Bataan. Yeah. But at What cost? TF 95 encounters mine field at Bataan (78,77) - Coastal Guns Fire Back! 1 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships DMS W-4, Shell hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage AK Sagami Maru, Mine hits 1 AK Sado Maru, Mine hits 1, on fire xAK Ryoyo Maru, Mine hits 1 AK Kyushu Maru, Mine hits 1, on fire Japanese ground losses: 25 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled) Fort Drum firing at DMS W-4 Fort Drum firing at DMS W-4 21 mines cleared -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Bataan at 78,77, Range 11,000 Yards Japanese Ships DD Yamagumo DD Harukaze DD Tachikaze APD Shimakaze APD Nadakaze APD Aoi APD Fuji AMc Wa 19 PB Aso Maru #3 PB Eiko Maru PB Kamitsu Maru SC Ch 1 SC Ch 2 SC Ch 3 SC Ch 4 SC Ch 5 SC Ch 6 SC Ch 10 SC Ch 11 SC Ch 13 SC Ch 14 SC Ch 15 AV Sagara Maru AV Sanuki Maru xAK Brisbane Maru xAK Sydney Maru xAK Hawaii Maru xAK Arizona Maru xAK Anyo Maru xAK Akiura Maru xAK Kazuura Maru xAK Kumagawa Maru xAK Keiyo Maru xAK Tatukami Maru xAK Okiyu Maru xAK Kosei Maru xAK Kotoku Maru xAK Sanko Maru xAK Keisho Maru xAK Matsukawa Maru xAK Syoka Maru xAK Takao Maru xAK Hokuan Maru xAK Maya Maru xAK Takaoka Maru xAK Atlas Maru xAK Kamoi Maru xAK Shinyubari Maru xAK Bunzan Maru xAK Shirogane Maru xAK Shinko Maru xAK Tenzan Maru xAK Yamadori Maru xAK Ohio Maru xAK Pacific Maru xAK Hokko Maru Allied Ships AM Finch AM Bittern AM Tanager AM Quail Reduced sighting due to 17% moonlight Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions and 17% moonlight: 7,000 yards Range increases to 12,000 yards... Range increases to 12,000 yards... Both Task Forces evade combat -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 105 encounters mine field at Bataan (78,77) - Coastal Guns Fire Back! 1 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships AMc Wa 19, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage PB Aso Maru #3, Mine hits 1, heavy damage xAK Shinko Maru, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Japanese ground losses: 33 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Fort Drum firing at AMc Wa 19 15 mines cleared -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Bataan at 78,77, Range 8,000 Yards Japanese Ships CL Naka DD Natsugumo DD Minegumo DD Asagumo DD Murasame DD Harusame DD Yudachi DD Samidare Allied Ships AM Finch, Shell hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage AM Bittern, Shell hits 11, and is sunk AM Tanager, Shell hits 3, on fire AM Quail, Shell hits 12, and is sunk Reduced sighting due to 17% moonlight Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions and 17% moonlight: 8,000 yards Range closes to 8,000 yards... CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 8,000 yards Japanese open fire on surprised Allied ships at 8,000 yards Range closes to 7,000 yards CL Naka engages AM Quail at 7,000 yards DD Samidare engages AM Quail at 7,000 yards DD Harusame engages AM Quail at 7,000 yards DD Minegumo engages AM Quail at 7,000 yards Range closes to 5,000 yards CL Naka engages AM Quail at 5,000 yards DD Samidare engages AM Quail at 5,000 yards DD Yudachi engages AM Bittern at 5,000 yards DD Harusame engages AM Finch at 5,000 yards DD Murasame engages AM Quail at 5,000 yards DD Minegumo engages AM Quail at 5,000 yards Range closes to 4,000 yards AM Quail sunk by CL Naka at 4,000 yards DD Samidare engages AM Bittern at 4,000 yards CL Naka engages AM Bittern at 4,000 yards DD Minegumo engages AM Bittern at 4,000 yards Range increases to 5,000 yards CL Naka engages AM Tanager at 5,000 yards CL Naka engages AM Bittern at 5,000 yards CL Naka engages AM Finch at 5,000 yards DD Asagumo engages AM Bittern at 5,000 yards AM Bittern sunk by DD Natsugumo at 5,000 yards CL Naka engages AM Tanager at 5,000 yards DD Samidare engages AM Finch at 5,000 yards Range increases to 7,000 yards DD Samidare engages AM Tanager at 7,000 yards DD Yudachi engages AM Tanager at 7,000 yards Range increases to 8,000 yards CL Naka engages AM Tanager at 8,000 yards CL Naka engages AM Finch at 8,000 yards DD Yudachi engages AM Finch at 8,000 yards CL Naka engages AM Tanager at 8,000 yards CL Naka engages AM Finch at 8,000 yards DD Minegumo engages AM Finch at 8,000 yards Task forces break off... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 12 encounters mine field at Bataan (78,77) Japanese Ships DD Harusame DD Murasame DD Asagumo DD Yudachi DD Natsugumo 8 mines cleared -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 88 encounters mine field at Bataan (78,77) - Coastal Guns Fire Back! 23 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships DMS W-10, Shell hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage DMS W-9, Shell hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage SC Ch 12, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Fort Drum firing at DMS W-10 Fort Drum firing at DMS W-9 39 mines cleared -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 95 encounters mine field at Bataan (78,77) Japanese Ships TB Hatsukari PB Kyo Maru #12 PB Nanpo Maru PB Kiso Maru xAK Enju Maru, Mine hits 1 6 mines cleared -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pre-Invasion action off Bataan 60 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships xAKL Kumakawa Maru, Shell hits 1, heavy fires PB Taiko Maru TB Kasasagi xAKL Meiko Maru, Shell hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage TB Tomozuru PB Kyo Maru #13, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage PB Kyo Maru #12, Shell hits 5, heavy damage PB Nanpo Maru PB Kiso Maru Japanese ground losses: 69 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 3 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled) Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled) 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging xAKL Kumakawa Maru at 12,000 yards TB Kasasagi fires to suppress enemy guns at 12,000 yards 12in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging xAKL Meiko Maru at 12,000 yards TB Kasasagi fires to suppress enemy guns at 12,000 yards 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging xAKL Kumakawa Maru at 12,000 yards TB Kasasagi fires to suppress enemy guns at 12,000 yards 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging xAKL Meiko Maru at 12,000 yards TB Kasasagi fires to suppress enemy guns at 12,000 yards TB Kasasagi firing at enemy guns 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging TB Kasasagi at 2,000 yards 6in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging TB Kasasagi at 2,000 yards 12in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging TB Kasasagi at 2,000 yards 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging TB Kasasagi at 2,000 yards 12in CD Mortar Coastal Battery engaging TB Kasasagi at 2,000 yards TB Tomozuru firing at enemy troops PB Kyo Maru #13 firing at enemy troops 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging PB Kyo Maru #13 at 2,000 yards 6in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging PB Kyo Maru #13 at 2,000 yards 12in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging PB Kyo Maru #13 at 2,000 yards 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging PB Kyo Maru #13 at 2,000 yards 12in CD Mortar Coastal Battery engaging PB Kyo Maru #13 at 2,000 yards PB Kyo Maru #12 firing at enemy troops 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging PB Kyo Maru #12 at 2,000 yards 6in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging PB Kyo Maru #12 at 2,000 yards 12in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging PB Kyo Maru #12 at 2,000 yards 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging PB Kyo Maru #12 at 2,000 yards 12in CD Mortar Coastal Battery engaging PB Kyo Maru #12 at 2,000 yards PB Taiko Maru firing at enemy troops PB Nanpo Maru firing at enemy troops PB Kiso Maru firing at enemy troops Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Amphibious Assault at Bataan TF 95 troops unloading over beach at Bataan, 78,77 Japanese ground losses: 1006 casualties reported Squads: 27 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 35 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled) Vehicles lost 7 (7 destroyed, 0 disabled) 19 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost in surf during unload of 56th Infantry Rgt 19 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad accidentally lost during unload of 56th Infantry Rgt /2 Motorized Support dropped into water during unload of 25th Army /3 17 troops of a IJA Motorized Squad lost overboard during unload of 5th Recon Rgt /1 19 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost overboard during unload of 21st Infantry Rgt 19 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad accidentally lost during unload of 21st Infantry Rgt 19 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost overboard during unload of 21st Infantry Rgt 70mm T92 Howitzer dropped into water during unload of 21st Infantry Rgt 70mm T92 Howitzer accidentally lost during unload of 21st Infantry Rgt 19 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost in surf during unload of 21st Infantry Rgt 10 Support troops lost overboard during unload of 21st Infantry Rgt 10 Support troops lost overboard during unload of 21st Infantry Rgt 10 Support troops lost in surf during unload of 21st Infantry Rgt 17 troops of a SNLF Squad accidentally lost during unload of 16th Nav Gd 8 Engineers accidentally lost during unload of 4th Ind. Engr Rgt 17 troops of a SNLF Squad accidentally lost during unload of 15th Nav Gd /2 Motorized Support lost from landing craft during unload of 18th JAAF Base Force 18 troops of a IJA Engineer Squad lost in surf during unload of 5th Engr Rgt 17 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost overboard during unload of 84th JAAF AF Bn Type 97 Medium Tank damaged beyond repair during unload of 1st Tank Rgt 20 troops of a IJA HMG Squad accidentally lost during unload of I./143rd Infantry Bn 17 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost from landing craft during unload of I./143rd Infantry Bn 10 Support troops accidentally lost during unload of I./143rd Infantry Bn 10 Support troops lost from landing craft during unload of 21st Ind. Engr Rgt 8 Engineers lost in surf during unload of 21st Ind. Engr Rgt 17 troops of a SNLF Squad lost from landing craft during unload of 16th Nav Gd /3 17 troops of a SNLF Squad lost in surf during unload of 15th Nav Gd /3 Motorized Support lost in surf during unload of 25th Army 10 Support troops lost overboard during unload of 25th Army 8 Engineers accidentally lost during unload of 15th Ind. Engr Rgt 17 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost in surf during unload of II./143rd Infantry Bn 8 Engineers lost from landing craft during unload of 7th Field AF Const Bn 8 Naval Support troops lost overboard during unload of 11th Shipping Engr Rgt 8 Naval Support troops lost from landing craft during unload of 11th Shipping Engr Rgt 17 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost from landing craft during unload of III./143rd Infantry Bn 17 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost overboard during unload of III./143rd Infantry Bn 8 Engineers lost from landing craft during unload of 4th Ind. Engr Rgt /2 19 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost from landing craft during unload of 11th Infantry Rgt 19 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost from landing craft during unload of 11th Infantry Rgt 10 Support troops lost from landing craft during unload of 15th Ind. Engr Rgt /2 8 Engineers lost overboard during unload of 15th Ind. Engr Rgt /2 10 Support troops lost from landing craft during unload of 23rd Ind. Engr Rgt 19 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost in surf during unload of 55th Infantry Rgt 19 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost overboard during unload of 55th Infantry Rgt 19 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost in surf during unload of 55th Infantry Rgt 19 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad accidentally lost during unload of 55th Infantry Rgt 19 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost from landing craft during unload of 55th Infantry Rgt /2 19 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost overboard during unload of 55th Infantry Rgt /2 19 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost from landing craft during unload of 55th Infantry Rgt /2 10 Support troops lost overboard during unload of 55th Infantry Rgt /2 10 Support troops accidentally lost during unload of 55th Infantry Rgt /2 19 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad accidentally lost during unload of 114th Infantry Rgt 19 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost in surf during unload of 114th Infantry Rgt 19 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad accidentally lost during unload of 114th Infantry Rgt 19 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost from landing craft during unload of 114th Infantry Rgt 10 Support troops lost in surf during unload of 114th Infantry Rgt 19 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost in surf during unload of 11th Infantry Rgt /2 10 Support troops accidentally lost during unload of 11th Infantry Rgt /2 19 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost overboard during unload of 41st Infantry Rgt 10 Support troops lost in surf during unload of 41st Infantry Rgt Motorized Support accidentally lost during unload of 5th Recon Rgt 19 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost from landing craft during unload of 11th Infantry Rgt /3 19 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost overboard during unload of 41st Infantry Rgt /2 19 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost overboard during unload of 41st Infantry Rgt /2 10 Support troops accidentally lost during unload of 41st Infantry Rgt /2 19 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost from landing craft during unload of 114th Infantry Rgt /2 19 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost in surf during unload of 114th Infantry Rgt /2 19 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad accidentally lost during unload of 114th Infantry Rgt /2 19 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost overboard during unload of 114th Infantry Rgt /2 19 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost from landing craft during unload of 114th Infantry Rgt /2 10 Support troops lost in surf during unload of 114th Infantry Rgt /2 10 Support troops lost in surf during unload of 114th Infantry Rgt /2 10 Support troops lost from landing craft during unload of 21st Infantry Rgt /2 10 Support troops accidentally lost during unload of 53rd Const Co 10 Support troops lost in surf during unload of 21st Infantry Rgt /3 17 troops of a SNLF Squad accidentally lost during unload of 15th Nav Gd 10 Support troops accidentally lost during unload of 15th Nav Gd 8 Aviation Support troops lost from landing craft during unload of 18th JAAF Base Force /1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pre-Invasion action off Bataan - Coastal Guns Fire Back! 108 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships DD Harukaze xAKL Kurama Maru, Shell hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage AV Sanuki Maru DD Yamagumo xAKL Kembu Maru, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage PB Kamitsu Maru, Shell hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage PB Eiko Maru SC Ch 15 SC Ch 14 SC Ch 13 SC Ch 11 SC Ch 10 SC Ch 6, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage SC Ch 5 SC Ch 4 SC Ch 3 SC Ch 2 SC Ch 1, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage Japanese ground losses: 35 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled DD Harukaze firing at Fort Mills 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging xAKL Kurama Maru at 12,000 yards DD Yamagumo fires to suppress enemy guns at 12,000 yards 12in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging xAKL Kembu Maru at 12,000 yards DD Yamagumo fires to suppress enemy guns at 12,000 yards 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging xAKL Kurama Maru at 12,000 yards DD Yamagumo fires to suppress enemy guns at 12,000 yards 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging xAKL Kurama Maru at 12,000 yards DD Yamagumo fires to suppress enemy guns at 12,000 yards PB Kamitsu Maru firing at enemy guns 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging PB Kamitsu Maru at 2,000 yards 6in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging PB Kamitsu Maru at 2,000 yards 12in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging PB Kamitsu Maru at 2,000 yards 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging PB Kamitsu Maru at 2,000 yards 12in CD Mortar Coastal Battery engaging PB Kamitsu Maru at 2,000 yards PB Eiko Maru firing at enemy troops SC Ch 15 firing at enemy troops SC Ch 14 firing at enemy troops SC Ch 13 firing at enemy troops SC Ch 11 firing at enemy troops 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging SC Ch 11 at 2,000 yards 6in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging SC Ch 11 at 2,000 yards 12in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging SC Ch 11 at 2,000 yards 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging SC Ch 11 at 2,000 yards 12in CD Mortar Coastal Battery engaging SC Ch 11 at 2,000 yards SC Ch 10 firing at enemy guns 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging SC Ch 10 at 2,000 yards 6in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging SC Ch 10 at 2,000 yards 12in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging SC Ch 10 at 2,000 yards 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging SC Ch 10 at 2,000 yards 12in CD Mortar Coastal Battery engaging SC Ch 10 at 2,000 yards SC Ch 6 firing at enemy guns 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging SC Ch 6 at 2,000 yards 6in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging SC Ch 6 at 2,000 yards 12in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging SC Ch 6 at 2,000 yards 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging SC Ch 6 at 2,000 yards 12in CD Mortar Coastal Battery engaging SC Ch 6 at 2,000 yards SC Ch 5 firing at enemy troops SC Ch 4 firing at enemy troops SC Ch 3 firing at enemy guns SC Ch 2 firing at enemy guns SC Ch 1 firing at enemy troops 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging SC Ch 1 at 2,000 yards 6in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging SC Ch 1 at 2,000 yards 12in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging SC Ch 1 at 2,000 yards 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging SC Ch 1 at 2,000 yards 12in CD Mortar Coastal Battery engaging SC Ch 1 at 2,000 yards DD Harukaze firing at enemy troops Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Amphibious Assault at Bataan TF 105 troops unloading over beach at Bataan, 78,77 Japanese ground losses: 144 casualties reported Squads: 4 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 9 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled) Vehicles lost 4 (4 destroyed, 0 disabled) 20 troops of a IJA HMG Squad lost from landing craft during unload of Kanno Det 20 troops of a IJA HMG Squad lost from landing craft during unload of Kanno Det 17 troops of a SNLF Squad accidentally lost during unload of 91st Nav Gd 17 troops of a SNLF Squad accidentally lost during unload of 91st Nav Gd /3 19 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost overboard during unload of Tanaka Det 8 Engineers lost overboard during unload of 3rd Engineer Const Bn 10 Support troops lost from landing craft during unload of 9th Field AF Const Bn 10 Support troops lost overboard during unload of 21st Ind. Engr Rgt /2 Motorized Support lost in surf during unload of 14th Army Motorized Support lost in surf during unload of 14th Army 10 Support troops lost overboard during unload of 14th Army /2 Motorized Support damaged beyond repair during unload of 14th Army /3 8 Engineers lost in surf during unload of 40th JAAF AF Bn /2 8 Engineers accidentally lost during unload of 3rd Engineer Const Bn /2 8 Aviation Support troops lost from landing craft during unload of 40th JAAF AF Bn /3 19 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost overboard during unload of Tanaka Det /2 10 Support troops lost in surf during unload of Tanaka Det /2 17 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost from landing craft during unload of 28th JAAF AF Bn 7.7mm T99 AAMG damaged beyond repair during unload of 28th JAAF AF Bn -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Invasion Support action off Bataan 82 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships xAKL Kumakawa Maru, Shell hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage PB Taiko Maru, Shell hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage TB Kasasagi xAKL Ryoyu Maru #21, Shell hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage xAKL Meiko Maru, Shell hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage PB Nanpo Maru, Shell hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage PB Kiso Maru, Shell hits 9, heavy fires, heavy damage CM Tsubame Japanese ground losses: 166 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 26 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled 12in CD Mortar Coastal Battery engaging xAKL Kumakawa Maru at 12,000 yards TB Kasasagi fires to suppress enemy guns at 12,000 yards 12in CD Mortar Coastal Battery engaging xAKL Ryoyu Maru #21 at 12,000 yards TB Kasasagi fires to suppress enemy guns at 12,000 yards 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging xAKL Kumakawa Maru at 12,000 yards TB Kasasagi fires to suppress enemy guns at 12,000 yards 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging xAKL Meiko Maru at 12,000 yards TB Kasasagi fires to suppress enemy guns at 12,000 yards PB Taiko Maru firing at enemy guns 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging PB Taiko Maru at 2,000 yards 6in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging PB Taiko Maru at 2,000 yards 12in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging PB Taiko Maru at 2,000 yards 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging PB Taiko Maru at 2,000 yards 12in CD Mortar Coastal Battery engaging PB Taiko Maru at 2,000 yards PB Nanpo Maru firing at enemy troops 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging PB Nanpo Maru at 2,000 yards 6in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging PB Nanpo Maru at 2,000 yards 12in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging PB Nanpo Maru at 2,000 yards 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging PB Nanpo Maru at 2,000 yards 12in CD Mortar Coastal Battery engaging PB Nanpo Maru at 2,000 yards PB Kiso Maru firing at enemy guns 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging PB Kiso Maru at 2,000 yards 6in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging PB Kiso Maru at 2,000 yards 12in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging PB Kiso Maru at 2,000 yards 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging PB Kiso Maru at 2,000 yards 12in CD Mortar Coastal Battery engaging PB Kiso Maru at 2,000 yards Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Invasion Support action off Bataan - Coastal Guns Fire Back! Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft 82 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships DD Yamagumo xAKL Kiko Maru, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage AV Sanuki Maru xAK Brisbane Maru, Shell hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage xAKL Anbo Maru, Shell hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage SC Ch 15, Shell hits 3, heavy damage SC Ch 14 SC Ch 13 SC Ch 11 SC Ch 10 SC Ch 5, Shell hits 5, heavy damage SC Ch 4, Shell hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage SC Ch 3, Shell hits 3, heavy damage SC Ch 2 DD Yamagumo firing at Fort Drum 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging xAKL Kiko Maru at 12,000 yards DD Yamagumo fires to suppress enemy guns at 12,000 yards 12in CD Mortar Coastal Battery engaging xAK Brisbane Maru at 12,000 yards DD Yamagumo fires to suppress enemy guns at 12,000 yards 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging xAKL Kiko Maru at 12,000 yards DD Yamagumo fires to suppress enemy guns at 12,000 yards 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging xAKL Anbo Maru at 12,000 yards DD Yamagumo fires to suppress enemy guns at 12,000 yards SC Ch 15 firing at enemy troops 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging SC Ch 15 at 2,000 yards 6in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging SC Ch 15 at 2,000 yards 12in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging SC Ch 15 at 2,000 yards 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging SC Ch 15 at 2,000 yards 12in CD Mortar Coastal Battery engaging SC Ch 15 at 2,000 yards SC Ch 14 firing at enemy troops SC Ch 13 firing at enemy troops SC Ch 11 firing at enemy troops SC Ch 10 firing at enemy troops SC Ch 5 firing at enemy guns 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging SC Ch 5 at 2,000 yards 6in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging SC Ch 5 at 2,000 yards 12in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging SC Ch 5 at 2,000 yards 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging SC Ch 5 at 2,000 yards 12in CD Mortar Coastal Battery engaging SC Ch 5 at 2,000 yards SC Ch 4 firing at enemy guns 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging SC Ch 4 at 2,000 yards 6in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging SC Ch 4 at 2,000 yards 12in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging SC Ch 4 at 2,000 yards 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging SC Ch 4 at 2,000 yards 12in CD Mortar Coastal Battery engaging SC Ch 4 at 2,000 yards SC Ch 3 firing at enemy guns 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging SC Ch 3 at 2,000 yards 6in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging SC Ch 3 at 2,000 yards 12in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging SC Ch 3 at 2,000 yards 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging SC Ch 3 at 2,000 yards 12in CD Mortar Coastal Battery engaging SC Ch 3 at 2,000 yards SC Ch 2 firing at enemy guns -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Naval Gun Fire at Bataan - Coastal Guns Fire Back! 81 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships CL Natori, Shell hits 6, Mine hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Hatakaze, Shell hits 1, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage DD Nagatsuki, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage DD Fumizuki, Shell hits 1, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage DD Minazuki, Shell hits 3, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Satsuki Fort Drum firing at CL Natori Fort Drum firing at DD Hatakaze Fort Drum firing at DD Nagatsuki Fort Drum firing at DD Fumizuki Fort Drum firing at DD Minazuki Fort Drum firing at DD Satsuki -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 14 encounters mine field at Bataan (78,77) Japanese Ships DD Hatakaze, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage DD Fumizuki, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage DD Minazuki, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage CL Natori, Mine hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Nagatsuki, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage DD Satsuki 7 mines cleared -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat, near Bataan at 78,77, Range 18,000 Yards Japanese Ships APD Hagi TB Chidori TB Manazuru TB Hatsukari TB Tomozuru TB Kasasagi PB Kiso Maru, heavy fires, heavy damage PB Nanpo Maru, heavy fires, heavy damage PB Taiko Maru, heavy fires, heavy damage CM Tsubame PB Kyo Maru #12, heavy damage PB Kyo Maru #13, on fire, heavy damage AK Hirokawa Maru AK Sado Maru, on fire AK Sagami Maru AK Sakura Maru AK Sasako Maru AK Kinka Maru AK Kyushu Maru AK Tosan Maru xAK Arima Maru xAK Ayatosan Maru xAK Kansai Maru xAK Kashii Maru xAK Nankai Maru xAK Aobasan Maru xAK Asosan Maru xAK Asakasan Maru xAK Atutasan Maru xAK Kinugawa Maru xAK Kenyo Maru xAK Kogyo Maru xAK Tatutaki Maru xAK Teiyo Maru xAK Tatumiya Maru xAK Zenyo Maru xAK Nagara Maru xAK Nako Maru xAK Naruto Maru xAK Noto Maru xAK Nissyu Maru xAK Johore Maru xAK Mogamigawa Maru xAK Koryu Maru xAK Fushimi Maru xAK Toho Maru xAK Kokai Maru xAK Osaka Maru xAK Sydney Maru #2 xAK Rokko Maru xAK Atago Maru xAK Meiyo Maru xAK Santos Maru xAK Karachi Maru xAK Kuwayama Maru xAK Siraha Maru xAK Syoto Maru Allied Ships PT-33 PT-41 PT Q-111 Allied Ships Reported to be Approaching! Japanese TF suspends unloading operations and begins to get underway Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions: 20,000 yards Range increases to 18,000 yards... Both Task Forces evade combat -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat, near Bataan at 78,77, Range 20,000 Yards Japanese Ships CL Naka DD Natsugumo, Shell hits 2, on fire DD Minegumo DD Asagumo, Shell hits 2 DD Murasame DD Harusame DD Yudachi, Shell hits 1 DD Samidare, Shell hits 1 Allied Ships DD John D. Ford, Shell hits 1, on fire DD Peary, Shell hits 4, heavy fires DD Pillsbury, Shell hits 3, heavy fires DD Pope, Shell hits 19, and is sunk Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions: 20,000 yards CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 20,000 yards CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 20,000 yards Nishimura, Teiji crosses the 'T' DD Harusame engages DD Pillsbury at 20,000 yards DD Murasame engages DD Pillsbury at 20,000 yards DD Peary engages DD Asagumo at 20,000 yards DD Pillsbury engages DD Minegumo at 20,000 yards DD Natsugumo engages DD Pillsbury at 20,000 yards Range closes to 15,000 yards CL Naka engages DD Pope at 15,000 yards DD Asagumo engages DD Pillsbury at 15,000 yards DD Yudachi engages DD Pillsbury at 15,000 yards DD Harusame engages DD John D. Ford at 15,000 yards DD Murasame engages DD Pillsbury at 15,000 yards DD Asagumo engages DD Pope at 15,000 yards DD Pillsbury engages DD Minegumo at 15,000 yards DD Natsugumo engages DD Pillsbury at 15,000 yards Range closes to 13,000 yards DD Yudachi engages DD Pope at 13,000 yards DD Pillsbury engages DD Samidare at 13,000 yards DD Peary engages DD Yudachi at 13,000 yards DD Yudachi engages DD John D. Ford at 13,000 yards DD Peary engages DD Murasame at 13,000 yards DD Asagumo engages DD Peary at 13,000 yards DD Minegumo engages DD Peary at 13,000 yards DD Natsugumo engages DD Peary at 13,000 yards Range increases to 14,000 yards CL Naka engages DD Pope at 14,000 yards DD Samidare engages DD John D. Ford at 14,000 yards DD Yudachi engages DD Pillsbury at 14,000 yards DD Harusame engages DD Peary at 14,000 yards DD Pillsbury engages DD Murasame at 14,000 yards DD Asagumo engages DD Pillsbury at 14,000 yards DD Minegumo engages DD John D. Ford at 14,000 yards DD Natsugumo engages DD Pillsbury at 14,000 yards Range closes to 13,000 yards CL Naka engages DD Pope at 13,000 yards DD Samidare engages DD Pillsbury at 13,000 yards DD Yudachi engages DD Peary at 13,000 yards DD John D. Ford engages DD Yudachi at 13,000 yards DD Murasame engages DD Pope at 13,000 yards DD Asagumo engages DD Pillsbury at 13,000 yards DD Minegumo engages DD John D. Ford at 13,000 yards DD Natsugumo engages DD Pillsbury at 13,000 yards Range closes to 9,000 yards DD Pope engages CL Naka at 9,000 yards DD Samidare engages DD John D. Ford at 9,000 yards DD Peary engages DD Yudachi at 9,000 yards DD John D. Ford engages DD Natsugumo at 9,000 yards DD Murasame engages DD Pillsbury at 9,000 yards DD Asagumo engages DD Peary at 9,000 yards DD Pillsbury engages DD Natsugumo at 9,000 yards Range increases to 11,000 yards CL Naka engages DD Pope at 11,000 yards DD Samidare engages DD Pillsbury at 11,000 yards DD Pillsbury engages DD Yudachi at 11,000 yards DD Asagumo engages DD John D. Ford at 11,000 yards DD John D. Ford engages DD Murasame at 11,000 yards DD Asagumo engages DD Pillsbury at 11,000 yards DD Minegumo engages DD John D. Ford at 11,000 yards DD John D. Ford engages DD Natsugumo at 11,000 yards Range increases to 12,000 yards DD Samidare engages DD Pope at 12,000 yards DD Harusame engages DD Pillsbury at 12,000 yards DD Harusame engages DD John D. Ford at 12,000 yards DD Murasame engages DD Peary at 12,000 yards DD Pillsbury engages DD Asagumo at 12,000 yards DD Pillsbury engages DD Natsugumo at 12,000 yards CL Naka engages DD Pope at 12,000 yards DD Harusame engages DD Pillsbury at 12,000 yards DD Peary engages DD Asagumo at 12,000 yards DD John D. Ford engages DD Natsugumo at 12,000 yards DD Murasame engages DD John D. Ford at 12,000 yards DD John D. Ford engages DD Asagumo at 12,000 yards DD Minegumo engages DD Peary at 12,000 yards DD John D. Ford engages DD Natsugumo at 12,000 yards Musak, F.V. orders Allied TF to disengage Range closes to 9,000 yards DD Pope engages DD Asagumo at 9,000 yards DD Pillsbury engages DD Samidare at 9,000 yards DD Peary engages DD Yudachi at 9,000 yards DD Murasame engages DD John D. Ford at 9,000 yards DD Murasame engages DD Pillsbury at 9,000 yards DD Asagumo engages DD Pope at 9,000 yards DD Pope engages DD Minegumo at 9,000 yards DD John D. Ford engages DD Natsugumo at 9,000 yards Range increases to 11,000 yards DD Asagumo engages DD Pope at 11,000 yards DD Pillsbury engages DD Yudachi at 11,000 yards DD Peary engages DD Asagumo at 11,000 yards DD John D. Ford engages DD Harusame at 11,000 yards DD Murasame engages DD John D. Ford at 11,000 yards DD John D. Ford engages DD Asagumo at 11,000 yards DD Minegumo engages DD Peary at 11,000 yards DD Natsugumo engages DD John D. Ford at 11,000 yards Range closes to 9,000 yards DD Minegumo engages DD Pope at 9,000 yards DD Samidare engages DD Peary at 9,000 yards DD Harusame engages DD Peary at 9,000 yards DD Harusame engages DD John D. Ford at 9,000 yards DD Murasame engages DD Peary at 9,000 yards DD Asagumo engages DD Peary at 9,000 yards DD Minegumo engages DD Pope at 9,000 yards DD Natsugumo engages DD John D. Ford at 9,000 yards Range increases to 10,000 yards CL Naka engages DD Pillsbury at 10,000 yards DD Pillsbury engages DD Murasame at 10,000 yards DD Murasame engages DD Peary at 10,000 yards DD Harusame engages DD Pope at 10,000 yards DD Murasame engages DD John D. Ford at 10,000 yards DD Asagumo engages DD Peary at 10,000 yards DD Minegumo engages DD Pillsbury at 10,000 yards DD Pope engages DD Natsugumo at 10,000 yards Range closes to 8,000 yards DD Pope sunk by DD Harusame at 8,000 yards DD Pillsbury engages DD Samidare at 8,000 yards DD Harusame engages DD Peary at 8,000 yards DD John D. Ford engages DD Yudachi at 8,000 yards DD Asagumo engages DD Peary at 8,000 yards DD Natsugumo engages DD Pillsbury at 8,000 yards Range increases to 12,000 yards DD Minegumo engages DD Pillsbury at 12,000 yards DD Samidare engages DD Peary at 12,000 yards DD Yudachi engages DD Peary at 12,000 yards DD Peary engages DD Harusame at 12,000 yards DD Peary engages DD Asagumo at 12,000 yards DD Minegumo engages DD Peary at 12,000 yards Range increases to 18,000 yards DD Asagumo engages DD Pillsbury at 18,000 yards DD Samidare engages DD Peary at 18,000 yards DD Natsugumo engages DD John D. Ford at 18,000 yards DD Harusame engages DD Pillsbury at 18,000 yards DD Peary engages DD Minegumo at 18,000 yards DD Natsugumo engages DD John D. Ford at 18,000 yards Task forces break off... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat, near Bataan at 78,77, Range 15,000 Yards Japanese Ships CL Naka, Shell hits 1 DD Natsugumo, heavy fires DD Minegumo, Shell hits 1, on fire DD Asagumo, Shell hits 1 DD Murasame DD Harusame DD Yudachi DD Samidare Allied Ships PG Isabel, Shell hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage PG Asheville, Shell hits 21, and is sunk PG Tulsa, Shell hits 16, and is sunk AVD Childs, Shell hits 19, heavy fires, heavy damage AM Lark, Shell hits 4, on fire AM Whippoorwill, Shell hits 7, and is sunk Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions: 20,000 yards Range closes to 15,000 yards... CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 15,000 yards CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 15,000 yards DD Samidare engages PG Asheville at 15,000 yards DD Yudachi engages PG Asheville at 15,000 yards DD Harusame engages PG Asheville at 15,000 yards CL Naka engages AVD Childs at 15,000 yards DD Minegumo engages PG Asheville at 15,000 yards DD Natsugumo engages AVD Childs at 15,000 yards Range closes to 9,000 yards CL Naka engages PG Asheville at 9,000 yards DD Yudachi engages PG Isabel at 9,000 yards DD Yudachi engages AM Whippoorwill at 9,000 yards DD Minegumo engages PG Isabel at 9,000 yards DD Natsugumo engages PG Isabel at 9,000 yards Range closes to 7,000 yards CL Naka engages PG Tulsa at 7,000 yards CL Naka engages PG Asheville at 7,000 yards CL Naka engages PG Isabel at 7,000 yards CL Naka engages AM Whippoorwill at 7,000 yards DD Murasame engages AVD Childs at 7,000 yards CL Naka engages AVD Childs at 7,000 yards DD Minegumo engages AVD Childs at 7,000 yards DD Natsugumo engages AVD Childs at 7,000 yards CL Naka engages PG Tulsa at 7,000 yards CL Naka engages PG Asheville at 7,000 yards CL Naka engages PG Isabel at 7,000 yards DD Murasame engages PG Tulsa at 7,000 yards DD Asagumo engages PG Asheville at 7,000 yards DD Minegumo engages AVD Childs at 7,000 yards DD Natsugumo engages PG Asheville at 7,000 yards Abbate, F.K. orders Allied TF to disengage PG Asheville sunk by CL Naka at 7,000 yards DD Yudachi engages PG Tulsa at 7,000 yards CL Naka engages AM Whippoorwill at 7,000 yards CL Naka engages AVD Childs at 7,000 yards DD Minegumo engages PG Tulsa at 7,000 yards DD Natsugumo engages PG Isabel at 7,000 yards Range closes to 5,000 yards CL Naka engages AVD Childs at 5,000 yards DD Samidare engages AVD Childs at 5,000 yards DD Yudachi engages AVD Childs at 5,000 yards CL Naka engages AM Lark at 5,000 yards CL Naka engages AVD Childs at 5,000 yards DD Asagumo engages AVD Childs at 5,000 yards DD Minegumo engages AVD Childs at 5,000 yards DD Natsugumo engages PG Tulsa at 5,000 yards Range increases to 6,000 yards CL Naka engages AVD Childs at 6,000 yards DD Samidare engages AVD Childs at 6,000 yards DD Yudachi engages PG Tulsa at 6,000 yards DD Harusame engages AM Lark at 6,000 yards DD Murasame engages PG Tulsa at 6,000 yards DD Asagumo engages PG Tulsa at 6,000 yards DD Minegumo engages AVD Childs at 6,000 yards DD Natsugumo engages PG Tulsa at 6,000 yards Range closes to 5,000 yards PG Tulsa sunk by CL Naka at 5,000 yards DD Yudachi engages AM Whippoorwill at 5,000 yards DD Harusame engages AM Lark at 5,000 yards AM Whippoorwill sunk by DD Asagumo at 5,000 yards Nishimura, Teiji orders Japanese TF to disengage Range increases to 6,000 yards CL Naka engages PG Isabel at 6,000 yards DD Samidare engages AVD Childs at 6,000 yards DD Yudachi engages AVD Childs at 6,000 yards DD Harusame engages AVD Childs at 6,000 yards DD Murasame engages AVD Childs at 6,000 yards DD Asagumo engages AM Lark at 6,000 yards DD Minegumo engages AVD Childs at 6,000 yards Range increases to 11,000 yards CL Naka engages AM Lark at 11,000 yards DD Yudachi engages AVD Childs at 11,000 yards DD Harusame engages AM Lark at 11,000 yards DD Murasame engages PG Isabel at 11,000 yards DD Asagumo engages AM Lark at 11,000 yards DD Minegumo engages AVD Childs at 11,000 yards DD Natsugumo engages AVD Childs at 11,000 yards Range increases to 15,000 yards DD Samidare engages AVD Childs at 15,000 yards DD Harusame engages AVD Childs at 15,000 yards Task forces break off... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat, near Bataan at 78,77, Range 18,000 Yards Japanese Ships APD Hagi TB Chidori TB Manazuru TB Hatsukari TB Tomozuru TB Kasasagi PB Kiso Maru, heavy fires, heavy damage PB Nanpo Maru, heavy fires, heavy damage PB Taiko Maru, heavy fires, heavy damage CM Tsubame PB Kyo Maru #12, heavy damage PB Kyo Maru #13, on fire, heavy damage AK Hirokawa Maru AK Sado Maru, on fire AK Sagami Maru AK Sakura Maru AK Sasako Maru AK Kinka Maru AK Kyushu Maru AK Tosan Maru xAK Arima Maru xAK Ayatosan Maru xAK Kansai Maru xAK Kashii Maru xAK Nankai Maru xAK Aobasan Maru xAK Asosan Maru xAK Asakasan Maru xAK Atutasan Maru xAK Kinugawa Maru xAK Kenyo Maru xAK Kogyo Maru xAK Tatutaki Maru xAK Teiyo Maru xAK Tatumiya Maru xAK Zenyo Maru xAK Nagara Maru xAK Nako Maru xAK Naruto Maru xAK Noto Maru xAK Nissyu Maru xAK Johore Maru xAK Mogamigawa Maru xAK Koryu Maru xAK Fushimi Maru xAK Toho Maru xAK Kokai Maru xAK Osaka Maru xAK Sydney Maru #2 xAK Rokko Maru xAK Atago Maru xAK Meiyo Maru xAK Santos Maru xAK Karachi Maru xAK Kuwayama Maru xAK Siraha Maru xAK Syoto Maru xAK Ryoyo Maru xAK Nanko Maru Allied Ships AM Tanager Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions: 20,000 yards CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 18,000 yards Japanese ships attempt to get underway CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 18,000 yards Both TF attempt to withdraw! Range increases to 18,000 yards... Both Task Forces evade combat -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat, near Bataan at 78,77, Range 18,000 Yards Japanese Ships APD Hagi TB Chidori TB Manazuru TB Hatsukari TB Tomozuru TB Kasasagi PB Kiso Maru, heavy fires, heavy damage PB Nanpo Maru, heavy fires, heavy damage PB Taiko Maru, heavy fires, heavy damage CM Tsubame PB Kyo Maru #12, heavy damage PB Kyo Maru #13, on fire, heavy damage AK Hirokawa Maru AK Sado Maru, on fire AK Sagami Maru AK Sakura Maru AK Sasako Maru AK Kinka Maru AK Kyushu Maru AK Tosan Maru xAK Arima Maru xAK Ayatosan Maru xAK Kansai Maru xAK Kashii Maru xAK Nankai Maru xAK Aobasan Maru xAK Asosan Maru xAK Asakasan Maru xAK Atutasan Maru xAK Kinugawa Maru xAK Kenyo Maru xAK Kogyo Maru xAK Tatutaki Maru xAK Teiyo Maru xAK Tatumiya Maru xAK Zenyo Maru xAK Nagara Maru xAK Nako Maru xAK Naruto Maru xAK Noto Maru xAK Nissyu Maru xAK Johore Maru xAK Mogamigawa Maru xAK Koryu Maru xAK Fushimi Maru xAK Toho Maru xAK Kokai Maru xAK Osaka Maru xAK Sydney Maru #2 xAK Rokko Maru xAK Atago Maru xAK Meiyo Maru xAK Santos Maru xAK Karachi Maru xAK Kuwayama Maru xAK Siraha Maru xAK Syoto Maru xAK Ryoyo Maru xAK Nanko Maru Allied Ships AM Tanager Allied Ships Reported to be Approaching! Japanese TF suspends unloading operations and begins to get underway Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions: 20,000 yards Range increases to 18,000 yards... Both Task Forces evade combat -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Invasion Support action off Bataan Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft 45 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships xAKL Sasago Maru, Shell hits 2, heavy fires TB Kasasagi xAKL Hanakawa Maru, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage xAKL Yoshinogawa Maru TB Tomozuru TB Hatsukari TB Manazuru TB Chidori, Shell hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage APD Hagi 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging xAKL Sasago Maru at 12,000 yards TB Kasasagi fires to suppress enemy guns at 12,000 yards 12in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging xAKL Sasago Maru at 12,000 yards TB Kasasagi fires to suppress enemy guns at 12,000 yards 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging xAKL Hanakawa Maru at 12,000 yards TB Kasasagi fires to suppress enemy guns at 12,000 yards 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging xAKL Yoshinogawa Maru at 12,000 yards TB Kasasagi fires to suppress enemy guns at 12,000 yards TB Kasasagi firing at enemy troops TB Tomozuru firing at enemy troops TB Hatsukari firing at enemy guns TB Manazuru firing at enemy troops 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging TB Manazuru at 2,000 yards 6in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging TB Manazuru at 2,000 yards 12in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging TB Manazuru at 2,000 yards 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging TB Manazuru at 2,000 yards 12in CD Mortar Coastal Battery engaging TB Manazuru at 2,000 yards TB Chidori firing at enemy guns 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging TB Chidori at 2,000 yards 12in CD Mortar Coastal Battery engaging TB Chidori at 2,000 yards 155mm M1918 GPF Coastal Battery engaging TB Chidori at 2,000 yards APD Hagi firing at enemy troops -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Invasion Support action off Bataan Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft 38 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships xAK Hawaii Maru, Shell hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage AV Sanuki Maru DD Yamagumo xAK Anyo Maru, Shell hits 3 SC Ch 14, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage SC Ch 13 SC Ch 11, Shell hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage SC Ch 10 SC Ch 2 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging xAK Hawaii Maru at 12,000 yards DD Yamagumo fires to suppress enemy guns at 12,000 yards 12in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging xAK Anyo Maru at 12,000 yards DD Yamagumo fires to suppress enemy guns at 12,000 yards 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging xAK Hawaii Maru at 12,000 yards DD Yamagumo fires to suppress enemy guns at 12,000 yards 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging xAK Hawaii Maru at 12,000 yards DD Yamagumo fires to suppress enemy guns at 12,000 yards SC Ch 14 firing at enemy troops 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging SC Ch 14 at 2,000 yards 6in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging SC Ch 14 at 2,000 yards 12in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging SC Ch 14 at 2,000 yards 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging SC Ch 14 at 2,000 yards 12in CD Mortar Coastal Battery engaging SC Ch 14 at 2,000 yards SC Ch 13 firing at enemy guns SC Ch 11 firing at enemy troops 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging SC Ch 11 at 2,000 yards 6in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging SC Ch 11 at 2,000 yards 12in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging SC Ch 11 at 2,000 yards 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging SC Ch 11 at 2,000 yards 12in CD Mortar Coastal Battery engaging SC Ch 11 at 2,000 yards SC Ch 10 firing at enemy troops SC Ch 2 firing at enemy guns -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Bataan (78,77) Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 8044 troops, 354 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 309 Defending force 65834 troops, 636 guns, 580 vehicles, Assault Value = 1727 Japanese ground losses: 267 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 13 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 17 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled) Vehicles lost 5 (0 destroyed, 5 disabled) Allied ground losses: 55 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Guns lost 3 (0 destroyed, 3 disabled) Assaulting units: Fort Mills 31st Infantry Regiment 1st/45th PS Inf Battalion 4th Marine Regiment Fort Hughes Fort Frank Fort Drum Bataan USN Base Force 803rd Engineer Aviation Battalion Defending units: Kanno Det /1 41st Infantry Rgt /1 21st Infantry Rgt /1 56th Infantry Rgt /1 11th Infantry Rgt /1 I./124th Infantry Bn /4 12th Engr Rgt /1 Tanaka Det /1 15th Ind. Engr Rgt /1 5th Recon Rgt /2 4th Ind. Engr Rgt /1 23rd Ind. Engr Rgt /1 16th Nav Gd /2 I./143rd Infantry Bn /1 Sasebo 1st SNLF /3 21st Ind. Engr Rgt /1 5th Engr Rgt /1 55th Infantry Rgt /1 114th Infantry Rgt /1 42nd Infantry Rgt /1 91st Nav Gd /1 II./143rd Infantry Bn /1 3rd Ind. Engr Rgt /1 15th Nav Gd /1 1st Tank Rgt /1 III./143rd Infantry Bn /1 28th JAAF AF Bn /1 5th Field AF Const Bn /1 34th Fld AA Bn /1 53rd Const Co /1 15th Ind.Art.Mortar Bn /1 2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Bn /1 9th Field AF Const Bn /1 7th Field AF Const Bn /1 9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Bn /1 18th JAAF Base Force /3 3rd Engineer Const Bn /1 18th Medium FA Rgt /1 84th JAAF AF Bn /1 55th Const Co /1 3rd Medium FA Rgt /1 11th Shipping Engr Rgt /1 32nd Fld AA Bn /1 25th Army /2 54th Const Co /1 8th JNAF Coy /1 40th JAAF AF Bn /1 20th AA Rgt /1 5th JAAF AF Coy /1 5th FA Rgt /1 3rd Ind. Mtn Gun Rgt /1 6th JNAF Coy /1 21st JAAF AF Bn /1 8th Medium FA Rgt /1 56th Const Co /1 14th Army /1 24th JAAF AF Bn /1 ---------------------------------------------- It's late where I am, but the vessels lost for the IJN at Bataan, not counting damaged, ran to about two pages of the intel screen. I'll post when I have time.

bradfordkay -> RE: Amphibious invasion of Pearl Harbor - results (1/14/2010 8:01:46 AM)
"TF 14 encounters mine field at Bataan (78,77) Japanese Ships DD Hatakaze, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage DD Fumizuki, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage DD Minazuki, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage CL Natori, Mine hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Nagatsuki, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage DD Satsuki 7 mines cleared" But... but... but they only hit six mines! How did they manage to clear that seventh mine? [sm=innocent0009.gif]

Brady -> RE: Amphibious invasion of Pearl Harbor - results (1/14/2010 9:42:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bradfordkay Nice map, Brady. Too bad they didn't put an overlay of the suitable landing beaches on it. I have a general idea, but it would be interesting to see what the military minds of the day considered to be the vulnerable beaches. Well I think the obvious point is that no mater whear they landed that they would realy only face a fraction of the guns. Which is true no mater when or whear a landing were to take place. Also Unless absolutly nesscessary landings would take place whear their were no guns. AT Rabaul for example the Japanese chose laning sights that were not covered by the CD guns and the ones that were, were undertaken at night so the guns would be of no concern, and their back up plan involved simply moving theirs Ships out from under the guns. The Japanese prefered to land at night , and unapoased, and at various spots along the beach, this was done to preserve unit coheashion during the initial landings, folow on landings were conducted around the clock. The Folowing Link Details the Japanese Operations to secure various points in the SWPA : http://ajrp.awm.gov.au/ajrp/AJRP2.nsf/017f5db0d9c8cf61ca256d9500143041/94c375ac15b470a8ca25724900768f34?OpenDocument ................. My Favorate pasage from the Rabaul section: The 1st Battalion of the Kusunose Unit, aboard the transports as the 1st Squad, entered the anchorage at 10.20 pm charged with the task of occupying the Praed Point battery and Lakunai airfield. The Praed Point battery was equipped with ten artillery guns. The Japanese therefore planned to move the entire convoy back a further 5 kilometres from the shore if Praed Point was not occupied by 4 am owing to the danger of the battery attacking the transport convoy. The commander of the 2nd Company, while heading for Praed Point onboard the transports, was told: "If you cannot occupy the battery by 4 am, then you must cut open your bowels and die!” Thier were realy only two 6 inch guns, and they were eveuanitaly found to have been knocked out. By the Air Raid the day before. ................... Japanese Army in WW2, Conquest of the Pacific 1941-42, Rotma/Anderson Japanese Army Handbook, Georg Forty TME-30-480

John Lansford -> RE: Amphibious invasion of Pearl Harbor - results (1/14/2010 9:55:18 AM)
The only good landing sites on Oahu were the ones covered by the guns, though. The North Shore has very strong surf nearly year round, and especially in the winter, with waves well over 20' high. Even the Marines felt that an amphibious landing on that side of the island was nearly impossible, but since a small scale raiding party was feasible, the Army eventually put some mobile gun positions and FC systems on that side of the island. The landing sites the Marines considered most likely were on the south, SW and SE corners of the island, and all those were well covered by CD guns. I hear what you're saying about the number of guns capable of firing at any one landing attempt; would it be possible to introduce a random percentage (say, from 50% to 80%) that would control how many guns are actually able to fire at any one TF?

bklooste -> RE: Amphibious invasion of Pearl Harbor - results (1/14/2010 9:56:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bradfordkay Nice map, Brady. Too bad they didn't put an overlay of the suitable landing beaches on it. I have a general idea, but it would be interesting to see what the military minds of the day considered to be the vulnerable beaches. The defences were designed against a BB port raid not against a landing , the Northern side is not at all covered.... Seems a good place to land . All of Oahu has nice beaches but the terrain is the middle is rough. http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Oahu&sll=46.214761,1.57736&sspn=19.063336,50.405273&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Oahu,+Pearl+City,+Honolulu,+Hawaii+96782&ll=21.686941,-157.948551&spn=0.050007,0.098448&t=h&z=14 So this basically mean Japan can land facing no major CD fire .... unlike Bataan and Singapore.

Marty A -> RE: Amphibious invasion of Pearl Harbor - results (1/14/2010 10:02:11 AM)
If i read map correct that only shows 8 inch and above fire nothing smaller. it also does not account for artillery units that could be fired anywhere and move if need.

Brady -> RE: Amphibious invasion of Pearl Harbor - results (1/14/2010 10:22:33 AM)
From the same source: Much of this was to be tweaked by the start of the war and some removed but it gives an idea of what was their. [img]http://www.oniva.com/upload/2131/gggggb.jpg[/img] The army did take the threat of landings seriously on the "Other Shores" as they put some planing into defensive posations to cover the enteriour, Something else to consider is that most of these weapons were in Open Posations and would of been easy meat for Air atacks. The Japanese also knew whear everything was, as evidanced by the fixed gun posations being marked on the maps found in downed Japanese planes.

John Lansford -> RE: Amphibious invasion of Pearl Harbor - results (1/14/2010 12:39:56 PM)
Brady, your source is incorrect about the # of 16" guns. There were two batteries of two each, one set near the harbor entrance on the west side, another pair north of Barber's Point that had near 360 degree coverage of the island. That latter pair were built in secret (no civilian contractors) and were located on an ancient volcanic hill. The site is now a state park and shows all the gun positions. You're right about them being open to air attack, but so were most of Bataan's gun positions and repeated air attacks didn't destroy many of them before the position surrendered. The 155mm and mobile 8" gun and howitzers would have been hard to find as well. Also, the North Shore was lightly defended because the surf is incredibly rough up there. Even using specialized landing craft, the entire coast was considered unsuitable for an amphibious landing. There are reefs and very little accessible beach up there; if you do a Google search for Oahu you'll see there's even now very little areas accessible by boat up there.

Central Blue -> RE: Amphibious invasion of Pearl Harbor - results (1/14/2010 2:09:16 PM)
speaking of mines... Ok. I forgot to save last night, so had to re-run the pre-turn save. And a lot of the DMS types were toasted. The surging subs and some air power show up, along with the 3 PT's and the mighty Tanager. But he did take Bataan on the second day of the invasion. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 15, 41 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Invasion Support action off Bataan Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft 79 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships xAKL Sasago Maru, Shell hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage TB Kasasagi TB Tomozuru, Shell hits 1, on fire TB Hatsukari TB Manazuru, Shell hits 3 TB Chidori APD Hagi 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging xAKL Sasago Maru at 12,000 yards TB Kasasagi fires to suppress enemy guns at 12,000 yards 12in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging xAKL Sasago Maru at 12,000 yards TB Kasasagi fires to suppress enemy guns at 12,000 yards 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging xAKL Sasago Maru at 12,000 yards TB Kasasagi fires to suppress enemy guns at 12,000 yards 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging xAKL Sasago Maru at 12,000 yards TB Kasasagi fires to suppress enemy guns at 12,000 yards TB Kasasagi firing at enemy troops TB Tomozuru firing at enemy troops 12in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging TB Tomozuru at 2,000 yards 12in CD Mortar Coastal Battery engaging TB Tomozuru at 2,000 yards 8in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging TB Tomozuru at 2,000 yards 6in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging TB Tomozuru at 2,000 yards 3in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging TB Tomozuru at 2,000 yards 155mm M1918 GPF Coastal Battery engaging TB Tomozuru at 2,000 yards TB Hatsukari firing at enemy troops TB Manazuru firing at enemy troops 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging TB Manazuru at 2,000 yards 6in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging TB Manazuru at 2,000 yards 12in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging TB Manazuru at 2,000 yards 14in CD Gun Coastal Battery engaging TB Manazuru at 2,000 yards 12in CD Mortar Coastal Battery engaging TB Manazuru at 2,000 yards TB Chidori firing at enemy guns APD Hagi firing at enemy guns -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Naval Gun Fire at Bataan - Coastal Guns Fire Back! 83 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships CL Naka, Mine hits 1 DD Samidare, Shell hits 2, Mine hits 2, on fire, heavy damage DD Yudachi, Shell hits 2, Mine hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Harusame, Shell hits 1, Mine hits 2, on fire, heavy damage DD Murasame, Shell hits 11, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Asagumo, Shell hits 1, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Minegumo, Shell hits 4, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Natsugumo, Shell hits 3, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage Fort Drum firing at CL Naka Fort Drum firing at DD Samidare Fort Drum firing at DD Yudachi Fort Drum firing at DD Harusame Fort Drum firing at DD Murasame Fort Drum firing at DD Asagumo Fort Drum firing at DD Minegumo Fort Mills firing at DD Natsugumo -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 12 encounters mine field at Bataan (78,77) Japanese Ships DD Samidare, Mine hits 2, on fire, heavy damage CL Naka, Mine hits 2, on fire, heavy damage DD Yudachi, Mine hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Harusame, Mine hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Asagumo, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Murasame, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage 5 mines cleared -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Bataan at 78,77, Range 2,000 Yards Japanese Ships DD Yamagumo APD Shimakaze APD Nadakaze APD Aoi APD Fuji SC Ch 2 SC Ch 10 SC Ch 11, Shell hits 1 SC Ch 14 AV Sagara Maru AV Sanuki Maru xAK Sydney Maru xAK Hawaii Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage xAK Arizona Maru xAK Anyo Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage xAK Akiura Maru xAK Kazuura Maru xAK Kumagawa Maru xAK Keiyo Maru xAK Tatukami Maru xAK Okiyu Maru xAK Kosei Maru xAK Kotoku Maru xAK Sanko Maru xAK Keisho Maru xAK Matsukawa Maru xAK Syoka Maru xAK Takao Maru xAK Hokuan Maru xAK Maya Maru xAK Takaoka Maru xAK Atlas Maru xAK Kamoi Maru xAK Shinyubari Maru xAK Bunzan Maru xAK Shirogane Maru xAK Tenzan Maru xAK Yamadori Maru xAK Ohio Maru xAK Pacific Maru xAK Hokko Maru xAK Yuzan Maru xAK Anzan Maru #2 xAK Gosei Maru xAK Giyu Maru xAK Kuroshio Maru xAK Meiten Maru xAK Nojima Maru xAK Oigawa Maru xAK Chuko Maru Allied Ships PT-33 PT-41 PT Q-111 Reduced sighting due to 10% moonlight Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 10% moonlight: 2,000 yards Range closes to 11,000 yards... Range closes to 10,000 yards... Range closes to 9,000 yards... Range closes to 8,000 yards... Range closes to 7,000 yards... Range closes to 6,000 yards... Range closes to 5,000 yards... Range closes to 4,000 yards... Range closes to 3,000 yards... Range closes to 2,000 yards... CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 2,000 yards CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 2,000 yards Sarmiento A. gains tactical advantage PT-33 engages SC Ch 11 at 2,000 yards Range increases to 4,000 yards AV Sanuki Maru , AV Sagara Maru , xAK Chuko Maru , xAK Oigawa Maru , xAK Nojima Maru , xAK Meiten Maru , xAK Kuroshio Maru , xAK Giyu Maru , xAK Gosei Maru , xAK Anzan Maru #2 , xAK Yuzan Maru , xAK Hokko Maru , xAK Pacific Maru , xAK Ohio Maru , xAK Yamadori Maru , xAK Tenzan Maru , xAK Shirogane Maru , xAK Bunzan Maru , xAK Shinyubari Maru , xAK Kamoi Maru , xAK Atlas Maru , xAK Takaoka Maru , xAK Maya Maru , xAK Hokuan Maru , xAK Takao Maru , xAK Syoka Maru , xAK Matsukawa Maru , xAK Keisho Maru , xAK Sanko Maru , xAK Kotoku Maru , xAK Kosei Maru , xAK Okiyu Maru , xAK Tatukami Maru screened from combat - escorted by SC Ch 14 , SC Ch 11 , SC Ch 10 , SC Ch 2 , APD Fuji , APD Nadakaze PT-33 engages DD Yamagumo at 4,000 yards PT Q-111 engages APD Shimakaze at 4,000 yards PT-41 engages xAK Hawaii Maru at 4,000 yards Range closes to 2,000 yards AV Sanuki Maru , AV Sagara Maru , xAK Chuko Maru , xAK Oigawa Maru , xAK Nojima Maru , xAK Meiten Maru , xAK Kuroshio Maru , xAK Giyu Maru , xAK Gosei Maru , xAK Anzan Maru #2 , xAK Yuzan Maru , xAK Hokko Maru , xAK Pacific Maru , xAK Ohio Maru , xAK Yamadori Maru , xAK Tenzan Maru , xAK Shirogane Maru , xAK Bunzan Maru , xAK Shinyubari Maru , xAK Kamoi Maru , xAK Atlas Maru , xAK Takaoka Maru , xAK Maya Maru , xAK Hokuan Maru , xAK Takao Maru , xAK Syoka Maru , xAK Matsukawa Maru , xAK Keisho Maru , xAK Sanko Maru , xAK Kotoku Maru , xAK Kosei Maru , xAK Okiyu Maru , xAK Tatukami Maru , xAK Keiyo Maru , xAK Kumagawa Maru , xAK Kazuura Maru , xAK Akiura Maru screened from combat - escorted by DD Yamagumo , SC Ch 14 , SC Ch 11 , SC Ch 10 , APD Fuji , APD Aoi , APD Nadakaze APD Shimakaze engages PT Q-111 at 2,000 yards PT-33 engages xAK Anyo Maru at 2,000 yards Sarmiento A. orders Allied TF to disengage AV Sanuki Maru , AV Sagara Maru , xAK Chuko Maru , xAK Oigawa Maru , xAK Nojima Maru , xAK Meiten Maru , xAK Kuroshio Maru , xAK Giyu Maru , xAK Gosei Maru , xAK Anzan Maru #2 , xAK Yuzan Maru , xAK Hokko Maru , xAK Pacific Maru , xAK Ohio Maru , xAK Yamadori Maru , xAK Tenzan Maru , xAK Shirogane Maru , xAK Bunzan Maru , xAK Shinyubari Maru , xAK Kamoi Maru , xAK Atlas Maru , xAK Takaoka Maru screened from combat - escorted by SC Ch 14 , SC Ch 2 , APD Fuji , APD Aoi PT Q-111 engages APD Shimakaze at 2,000 yards APD Shimakaze engages PT-33 at 2,000 yards PT-41 engages xAK Keisho Maru at 2,000 yards Task forces break off... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Bataan at 77,77 Japanese Ships DD Harukaze, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage PB Eiko Maru Allied Ships SS Saury SS Saury launches 4 torpedoes at DD Harukaze Saury diving deep .... PB Eiko Maru fails to find sub, continues to search... PB Eiko Maru fails to find sub, continues to search... PB Eiko Maru fails to find sub, continues to search... PB Eiko Maru fails to find sub, continues to search... PB Eiko Maru attacking submerged sub .... PB Eiko Maru cannot reach attack position over SS Saury Escort abandons search for sub -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Submarine attack near Clark Field at 78,76 Japanese Ships DD Harusame, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage Allied Ships SS Shark DD Harusame is sighted by SS Shark SS Shark launches 2 torpedoes at DD Harusame -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Submarine attack near Clark Field at 78,76 Japanese Ships CL Naka, on fire, heavy damage Allied Ships SS Shark CL Naka is sighted by SS Shark SS Shark launches 4 torpedoes at CL Naka -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Bataan at 78,77, Range 12,000 Yards Japanese Ships APD Hagi TB Chidori TB Manazuru TB Hatsukari TB Tomozuru, on fire TB Kasasagi CM Tsubame AK Hirokawa Maru AK Sado Maru AK Sagami Maru AK Sakura Maru AK Sasako Maru AK Kinka Maru AK Kyushu Maru AK Tosan Maru xAK Arima Maru xAK Ayatosan Maru xAK Kansai Maru xAK Kashii Maru xAK Nankai Maru xAK Aobasan Maru xAK Asosan Maru xAK Asakasan Maru xAK Atutasan Maru xAK Kinugawa Maru xAK Kenyo Maru xAK Kogyo Maru xAK Tatutaki Maru xAK Teiyo Maru xAK Tatumiya Maru xAK Zenyo Maru xAK Nagara Maru xAK Nako Maru xAK Naruto Maru xAK Noto Maru xAK Nissyu Maru xAK Johore Maru xAK Mogamigawa Maru xAK Koryu Maru xAK Fushimi Maru xAK Toho Maru xAK Kokai Maru xAK Osaka Maru xAK Sydney Maru #2 xAK Rokko Maru xAK Atago Maru xAK Meiyo Maru xAK Santos Maru xAK Karachi Maru xAK Kuwayama Maru xAK Siraha Maru xAK Syoto Maru xAK Ryoyo Maru xAK Nanko Maru xAK Kinkasan Maru xAK Seizan Maru xAK Yahiko Maru xAK Tamaki Maru xAK Kyokko Maru Allied Ships AM Tanager Allied Ships Reported to be Approaching! Japanese TF suspends unloading operations and begins to get underway Reduced sighting due to 10% moonlight Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 10% moonlight: 11,000 yards Range increases to 12,000 yards... Range increases to 12,000 yards... Both Task Forces evade combat -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Bataan at 78,77, Range 12,000 Yards Japanese Ships APD Hagi TB Chidori TB Manazuru TB Hatsukari TB Tomozuru, on fire, heavy damage TB Kasasagi CM Tsubame AK Hirokawa Maru AK Sado Maru, on fire, heavy damage AK Sagami Maru AK Sakura Maru AK Sasako Maru AK Kinka Maru AK Kyushu Maru AK Tosan Maru xAK Arima Maru xAK Ayatosan Maru xAK Kansai Maru xAK Kashii Maru xAK Nankai Maru xAK Aobasan Maru xAK Asosan Maru xAK Asakasan Maru xAK Atutasan Maru xAK Kinugawa Maru xAK Kenyo Maru xAK Kogyo Maru xAK Tatutaki Maru xAK Teiyo Maru xAK Tatumiya Maru xAK Zenyo Maru xAK Nagara Maru xAK Nako Maru xAK Naruto Maru xAK Noto Maru xAK Nissyu Maru xAK Johore Maru xAK Mogamigawa Maru xAK Koryu Maru xAK Fushimi Maru xAK Toho Maru xAK Kokai Maru xAK Osaka Maru xAK Sydney Maru #2 xAK Rokko Maru xAK Atago Maru xAK Meiyo Maru xAK Santos Maru xAK Karachi Maru xAK Kuwayama Maru xAK Siraha Maru xAK Syoto Maru xAK Ryoyo Maru xAK Nanko Maru xAK Kinkasan Maru xAK Seizan Maru xAK Yahiko Maru xAKL Sasago Maru, and is sunk Allied Ships DD John D. Ford DD Peary DD Pillsbury Allied Ships Reported to be Approaching! Japanese TF suspends unloading operations and begins to get underway Reduced sighting due to 10% moonlight Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 10% moonlight: 11,000 yards CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 10,000 yards Japanese TF attempts to evade combat Range increases to 11,000 yards... CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 11,000 yards Range increases to 12,000 yards... DD Pillsbury engages TB Kasasagi at 12,000 yards DD Peary engages TB Kasasagi at 12,000 yards DD Peary engages TB Hatsukari at 12,000 yards DD Peary engages TB Hatsukari at 12,000 yards Task forces break off... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Bataan at 78,77, Range 9,000 Yards Japanese Ships DD Yamagumo APD Shimakaze APD Nadakaze APD Aoi APD Fuji SC Ch 2 SC Ch 10 SC Ch 11 SC Ch 14 AV Sagara Maru AV Sanuki Maru xAK Sydney Maru xAK Arizona Maru, on fire xAK Akiura Maru xAK Kazuura Maru xAK Kumagawa Maru xAK Keiyo Maru xAK Tatukami Maru xAK Okiyu Maru xAK Kosei Maru xAK Kotoku Maru xAK Sanko Maru xAK Keisho Maru xAK Matsukawa Maru xAK Syoka Maru xAK Takao Maru xAK Hokuan Maru xAK Maya Maru xAK Takaoka Maru xAK Atlas Maru xAK Kamoi Maru xAK Shinyubari Maru xAK Bunzan Maru xAK Shirogane Maru xAK Tenzan Maru xAK Yamadori Maru xAK Ohio Maru xAK Pacific Maru xAK Hokko Maru xAK Yuzan Maru xAK Anzan Maru #2 xAK Gosei Maru xAK Giyu Maru xAK Kuroshio Maru xAK Meiten Maru xAK Nojima Maru xAK Oigawa Maru xAK Chuko Maru Allied Ships DD John D. Ford DD Peary, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD Pillsbury Reduced sighting due to 10% moonlight Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 10% moonlight: 11,000 yards Range closes to 8,000 yards... CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 8,000 yards Japanese TF attempts to evade combat Range increases to 9,000 yards... CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 9,000 yards DD Peary engages DD Yamagumo at 9,000 yards DD Peary engages SC Ch 14 at 9,000 yards Range increases to 11,000 yards DD Yamagumo engages DD Pillsbury at 11,000 yards DD Peary engages SC Ch 14 at 11,000 yards DD Yamagumo engages DD John D. Ford at 11,000 yards Range closes to 10,000 yards DD Yamagumo engages DD Peary at 10,000 yards DD Yamagumo engages DD Peary at 10,000 yards DD John D. Ford engages DD Yamagumo at 10,000 yards Range closes to 8,000 yards DD Peary sunk by DD Yamagumo at 8,000 yards DD John D. Ford engages SC Ch 11 at 8,000 yards Range increases to 10,000 yards AV Sanuki Maru , AV Sagara Maru , xAK Chuko Maru , xAK Oigawa Maru , xAK Nojima Maru , xAK Meiten Maru , xAK Kuroshio Maru , xAK Giyu Maru screened from combat DD Pillsbury engages DD Yamagumo at 10,000 yards DD Pillsbury engages SC Ch 14 at 10,000 yards Japanese Task Force Manages to Escape Task forces break off... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Submarine attack near Iba at 77,75 Japanese Ships DD Minegumo, heavy fires, heavy damage Allied Ships SS Porpoise DD Minegumo is sighted by SS Porpoise SS Porpoise launches 4 torpedoes at DD Minegumo -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Bataan at 77,77 Japanese Ships PB Eiko Maru Allied Ships SS Saury SS Saury launches 4 torpedoes at PB Eiko Maru PB Eiko Maru fails to find sub, continues to search... PB Eiko Maru fails to find sub, continues to search... PB Eiko Maru fails to find sub, continues to search... PB Eiko Maru fails to find sub, continues to search... PB Eiko Maru attacking submerged sub .... Escort abandons search for sub -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Bataan at 77,77 Japanese Ships xAK Zinzan Maru, heavy damage Allied Ships SS Saury xAK Zinzan Maru is sighted by SS Saury SS Saury launches 4 torpedoes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Bataan at 78,77, Range 9,000 Yards Japanese Ships DD Tachikaze PB Aso Maru #3, heavy damage xAK Shinko Maru, heavy damage Allied Ships PT-33 PT-41 PT Q-111 Reduced sighting due to 3% moonlight Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 3% moonlight: 2,000 yards Range increases to 10,000 yards... Range increases to 11,000 yards... Range increases to 12,000 yards... Both Task Forces evade combat -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Naval Gun Fire at Bataan - Coastal Guns Fire Back! 653 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships TB Kasasagi, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage TB Hatsukari, Shell hits 1, Mine hits 2, on fire, heavy damage TB Manazuru, Shell hits 1, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage TB Chidori, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage CM Tsubame, Mine hits 2, on fire, heavy damage APD Hagi, Shell hits 1, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage LSD Shinshu Maru, Shell hits 9, Mine hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage AK Tosan Maru, Shell hits 3, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage AK Kyushu Maru, Shell hits 3, Mine hits 2, on fire, heavy damage AK Kinka Maru, Shell hits 2, Mine hits 2, on fire, heavy damage AK Sasako Maru, Shell hits 3, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage AK Sakura Maru, Shell hits 4, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage AK Sagami Maru, Shell hits 3, Mine hits 2, on fire, heavy damage AK Hirokawa Maru, Shell hits 6, Mine hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage xAP Naminoue Maru, Shell hits 3, Mine hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage xAP Huso Maru, Shell hits 2, on fire xAP Koan Maru, Shell hits 3, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAP Miike Maru, Shell hits 3, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAP Brazil Maru, Shell hits 6, Mine hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Zyuyo Maru, Shell hits 3, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Yahiko Maru, Shell hits 11, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Ryujo Maru, Shell hits 2, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Kiyozumi Maru, Shell hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Kisogawa Maru, Shell hits 2, Mine hits 2, on fire, heavy damage xAK Igasa Maru, Shell hits 5, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Hokuriku Maru, Shell hits 3, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Hokko Maru, Shell hits 1, Mine hits 2, on fire, heavy damage xAK Chihaya Maru, Shell hits 5, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Ayato Maru, Shell hits 2, Mine hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Awajisan Maru, Shell hits 3, Mine hits 2, on fire, heavy damage xAK Kyokko Maru, Shell hits 7, Mine hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Tamaki Maru, Shell hits 5, Mine hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Yahiko Maru, Shell hits 4, Mine hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Seizan Maru, Shell hits 4, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Kinkasan Maru, Shell hits 5, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Nanko Maru, Shell hits 14, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Syoto Maru, Shell hits 4, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage xAK Siraha Maru, Shell hits 6, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Kuwayama Maru, Shell hits 5, Mine hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Karachi Maru, Shell hits 11, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Santos Maru, Shell hits 2, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage xAK Meiyo Maru, Shell hits 8, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Atago Maru, Shell hits 4, Mine hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Rokko Maru, Shell hits 7, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Sydney Maru #2, Shell hits 3, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Osaka Maru, Shell hits 6, Mine hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Kokai Maru, Shell hits 4, Mine hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Toho Maru, Shell hits 1, Mine hits 2, on fire, heavy damage xAK Fushimi Maru, Shell hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Koryu Maru, Shell hits 13, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Mogamigawa Maru, Shell hits 8, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Johore Maru, Shell hits 2, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Nissyu Maru, Shell hits 8, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Noto Maru, Shell hits 2, Mine hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Naruto Maru, Shell hits 7, Mine hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Nako Maru, Shell hits 5, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Nagara Maru, Shell hits 12, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Tatumiya Maru, Shell hits 7, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Teiyo Maru, Shell hits 3, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Tatutaki Maru, Shell hits 4, Mine hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Kogyo Maru, Shell hits 6, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Kenyo Maru, Shell hits 5, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Kinugawa Maru, Shell hits 9, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Atutasan Maru, Shell hits 2, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Asakasan Maru, Shell hits 9, Mine hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Asosan Maru, Shell hits 4, Mine hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Aobasan Maru, Shell hits 2, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Nankai Maru, Shell hits 4, Mine hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Kashii Maru, Shell hits 3, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Kansai Maru, Shell hits 5, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Ayatosan Maru, Shell hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Arima Maru, Shell hits 3, Mine hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage xAKL Korei Maru, Shell hits 4, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAKL Nittatsu Maru, Shell hits 7, Mine hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage xAKL Raizan Maru, Shell hits 2, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage xAKL Fukuei Maru, Mine hits 2, on fire, heavy damage xAKL Matsutan Maru, Shell hits 1, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage xAKL Hidaka Maru, Shell hits 3, Mine hits 2, on fire, heavy damage xAKL Tatebu Maru, Shell hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage xAKL Tatibana Maru, Mine hits 2, heavy damage xAKL Kasui Maru, Shell hits 6, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAKL Kashi Maru, Mine hits 2, heavy damage xAKL Hanakawa Maru, Shell hits 1, Mine hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage xAKL Hakuyo Maru, Shell hits 4, Mine hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage xAKL Yoshinogawa Maru, Shell hits 2, Mine hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage Fort Drum firing at TB Kasasagi Fort Drum firing at TB Hatsukari Fort Drum firing at TB Manazuru Fort Drum firing at TB Chidori Fort Drum firing at CM Tsubame Fort Drum firing at APD Hagi Fort Mills firing at LSD Shinshu Maru Fort Drum firing at AK Tosan Maru Fort Drum firing at AK Kyushu Maru Fort Drum firing at AK Kinka Maru Fort Drum firing at AK Sasako Maru Fort Drum firing at AK Sakura Maru Fort Drum firing at AK Sagami Maru Fort Drum firing at AK Hirokawa Maru Fort Drum firing at xAP Naminoue Maru Fort Drum firing at xAP Huso Maru Fort Drum firing at xAP Koan Maru Fort Drum firing at xAP Miike Maru Fort Drum firing at xAP Brazil Maru Fort Mills firing at xAK Zyuyo Maru Fort Mills firing at xAK Yahiko Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Ryujo Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Kiyozumi Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Kisogawa Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Igasa Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Hokuriku Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Hokko Maru Fort Mills firing at xAK Chihaya Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Ayato Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Awajisan Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Kyokko Maru Fort Mills firing at xAK Tamaki Maru Fort Hughes firing at xAK Yahiko Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Seizan Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Kinkasan Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Nanko Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Syoto Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Siraha Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Kuwayama Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Karachi Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Santos Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Meiyo Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Atago Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Rokko Maru Fort Hughes firing at xAK Sydney Maru #2 Fort Drum firing at xAK Osaka Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Kokai Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Toho Maru Fort Mills firing at xAK Fushimi Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Koryu Maru Fort Mills firing at xAK Mogamigawa Maru Fort Mills firing at xAK Johore Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Nissyu Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Noto Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Naruto Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Nako Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Nagara Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Tatumiya Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Teiyo Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Tatutaki Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Kogyo Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Kenyo Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Kinugawa Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Atutasan Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Asakasan Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Asosan Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Aobasan Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Nankai Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Kashii Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Kansai Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Ayatosan Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Arima Maru Fort Drum firing at xAKL Korei Maru Fort Drum firing at xAKL Nittatsu Maru Fort Drum firing at xAKL Raizan Maru Fort Mills firing at xAKL Fukuei Maru Fort Drum firing at xAKL Matsutan Maru Fort Drum firing at xAKL Hidaka Maru Fort Drum firing at xAKL Tatebu Maru Fort Drum firing at xAKL Tatibana Maru Fort Drum firing at xAKL Kasui Maru Fort Drum firing at xAKL Kashi Maru Fort Drum firing at xAKL Hanakawa Maru Fort Drum firing at xAKL Hakuyo Maru Fort Drum firing at xAKL Yoshinogawa Maru -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Naval Gun Fire at Bataan - Coastal Guns Fire Back! 364 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships DD Yamagumo, Shell hits 1, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage SC Ch 14, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage SC Ch 11, Shell hits 1, Mine hits 2, on fire, heavy damage SC Ch 10, Shell hits 1, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage SC Ch 2, Mine hits 1, heavy damage AV Sanuki Maru, Shell hits 7, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage AV Sagara Maru, Shell hits 5, Mine hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage APD Fuji, Mine hits 2, heavy damage APD Aoi, Shell hits 2, Mine hits 2, on fire, heavy damage APD Nadakaze, Shell hits 2, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage APD Shimakaze, Shell hits 3, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Chuko Maru, Shell hits 8, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Oigawa Maru, Shell hits 2, Mine hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Nojima Maru, Shell hits 6, Mine hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Meiten Maru, Shell hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Kuroshio Maru, Shell hits 4, Mine hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Giyu Maru, Shell hits 1, Mine hits 2, on fire, heavy damage xAK Gosei Maru, Shell hits 3, Mine hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Anzan Maru #2, Shell hits 2, Mine hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Yuzan Maru, Shell hits 11, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Hokko Maru, Shell hits 10, Mine hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Pacific Maru, Shell hits 2, Mine hits 2, on fire, heavy damage xAK Ohio Maru, Shell hits 7, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Yamadori Maru, Shell hits 2, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage xAK Tenzan Maru, Shell hits 2, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Shirogane Maru, Shell hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Bunzan Maru, Shell hits 8, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Shinyubari Maru, Shell hits 2, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Kamoi Maru, Shell hits 4, Mine hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Atlas Maru, Shell hits 10, Mine hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Takaoka Maru, Shell hits 2, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Maya Maru, Shell hits 3, Mine hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Hokuan Maru, Shell hits 10, Mine hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Takao Maru, Shell hits 4, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Syoka Maru, Shell hits 4, Mine hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Matsukawa Maru, Shell hits 4, Mine hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Keisho Maru, Shell hits 3, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Sanko Maru, Shell hits 6, Mine hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Kotoku Maru, Shell hits 5, Mine hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Kosei Maru, Shell hits 5, Mine hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Okiyu Maru, Shell hits 1, Mine hits 2, on fire, heavy damage xAK Tatukami Maru, Shell hits 12, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Keiyo Maru, Shell hits 5, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Kumagawa Maru, Shell hits 3, Mine hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Kazuura Maru, Shell hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Akiura Maru, Shell hits 13, Mine hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Arizona Maru, Shell hits 5, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Sydney Maru, Shell hits 6, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage Fort Drum firing at DD Yamagumo Fort Drum firing at SC Ch 14 Fort Drum firing at SC Ch 11 Fort Drum firing at SC Ch 10 Fort Mills firing at SC Ch 2 Fort Drum firing at AV Sanuki Maru Fort Drum firing at AV Sagara Maru Fort Drum firing at APD Fuji Fort Drum firing at APD Aoi Fort Hughes firing at APD Nadakaze Fort Drum firing at APD Shimakaze Fort Drum firing at xAK Chuko Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Oigawa Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Nojima Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Meiten Maru Fort Mills firing at xAK Kuroshio Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Giyu Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Gosei Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Anzan Maru #2 Fort Drum firing at xAK Yuzan Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Hokko Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Pacific Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Ohio Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Yamadori Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Tenzan Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Shirogane Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Bunzan Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Shinyubari Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Kamoi Maru Fort Mills firing at xAK Atlas Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Takaoka Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Maya Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Hokuan Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Takao Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Syoka Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Matsukawa Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Keisho Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Sanko Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Kotoku Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Kosei Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Okiyu Maru Fort Mills firing at xAK Tatukami Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Keiyo Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Kumagawa Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Kazuura Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Akiura Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Arizona Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Sydney Maru -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 105 encounters mine field at Bataan (78,77) Japanese Ships DD Yamagumo, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage SC Ch 2, Mine hits 2, heavy damage APD Fuji, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage APD Aoi, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage APD Shimakaze, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage SC Ch 14, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage SC Ch 11, Mine hits 2, on fire, heavy damage SC Ch 10, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage AV Sanuki Maru, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage AV Sagara Maru, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage APD Nadakaze, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage xAK Chuko Maru, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Oigawa Maru, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Nojima Maru, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Meiten Maru, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Kuroshio Maru, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Giyu Maru, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage xAK Gosei Maru, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Anzan Maru #2, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Yuzan Maru, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Ohio Maru, Mine hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Yamadori Maru, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage 16 mines cleared -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Naval Gun Fire at Bataan - Coastal Guns Fire Back! 24 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships xAK Zenyo Maru, Shell hits 9, Mine hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Ryoyo Maru, Mine hits 1, heavy damage xAK Enju Maru, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage AK Sado Maru, Shell hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage TB Tomozuru, Mine hits 2, on fire, heavy damage Fort Mills firing at xAK Zenyo Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Ryoyo Maru Fort Drum firing at xAK Enju Maru Fort Drum firing at AK Sado Maru Fort Drum firing at TB Tomozuru -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Submarine attack near Iba at 77,75 Japanese Ships xAK Sanko Maru, heavy fires, heavy damage Allied Ships SS Spearfish xAK Sanko Maru is sighted by SS Spearfish SS Spearfish launches 4 torpedoes at xAK Sanko Maru -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Iba at 77,75 Japanese Ships xAK Tatukami Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage Allied Ships SS Permit xAK Tatukami Maru is sighted by SS Permit SS Permit launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Tatukami Maru ______________________ Morning Air attack on TF, near Bataan at 78,77 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 20 minutes Allied aircraft P-40B Warhawk x 5 P-40E Warhawk x 4 SOC-1 Seagull x 4 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AK Sakura Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage xAKL Yoshinogawa Maru, and is sunk xAKL Hakuyo Maru, and is sunk xAKL Hanakawa Maru, and is sunk xAKL Kashi Maru, and is sunk xAKL Kasui Maru, and is sunk xAKL Tatibana Maru, and is sunk xAKL Tatebu Maru, and is sunk xAKL Hidaka Maru, and is sunk xAKL Matsutan Maru, and is sunk xAKL Fukuei Maru, and is sunk xAKL Raizan Maru, and is sunk xAKL Nittatsu Maru, and is sunk xAKL Korei Maru, and is sunk xAK Arima Maru, and is sunk xAK Ayatosan Maru, and is sunk xAK Kansai Maru, and is sunk xAK Kashii Maru, and is sunk xAK Nankai Maru, and is sunk xAK Aobasan Maru, and is sunk xAK Asosan Maru, and is sunk xAK Asakasan Maru, and is sunk xAK Kinugawa Maru, and is sunk xAK Kenyo Maru, and is sunk xAK Kogyo Maru, and is sunk xAK Tatutaki Maru, and is sunk xAK Teiyo Maru, and is sunk xAK Tatumiya Maru, and is sunk xAK Nagara Maru, and is sunk xAK Nako Maru, and is sunk xAK Naruto Maru, and is sunk xAK Noto Maru, and is sunk xAK Johore Maru, and is sunk xAK Mogamigawa Maru, and is sunk xAK Koryu Maru, and is sunk xAK Toho Maru, and is sunk xAK Kokai Maru, and is sunk xAK Osaka Maru, and is sunk xAK Sydney Maru #2, and is sunk xAK Rokko Maru, and is sunk xAK Atago Maru, and is sunk xAK Meiyo Maru, and is sunk xAK Santos Maru, and is sunk xAK Karachi Maru, and is sunk xAK Kuwayama Maru, and is sunk xAK Syoto Maru, and is sunk xAK Nanko Maru, and is sunk xAK Kinkasan Maru, and is sunk xAK Seizan Maru, and is sunk xAK Yahiko Maru, and is sunk xAK Tamaki Maru, and is sunk xAK Kyokko Maru, and is sunk xAK Awajisan Maru, and is sunk xAK Ayato Maru, and is sunk xAK Chihaya Maru, and is sunk xAK Hokko Maru, and is sunk xAK Hokuriku Maru, and is sunk xAK Igasa Maru, and is sunk xAK Kisogawa Maru, and is sunk xAK Kiyozumi Maru, and is sunk xAK Ryujo Maru, and is sunk xAK Yahiko Maru, and is sunk xAK Zyuyo Maru, and is sunk xAP Brazil Maru, and is sunk xAP Miike Maru, and is sunk xAP Koan Maru, and is sunk xAP Naminoue Maru, and is sunk AK Hirokawa Maru, and is sunk AK Sagami Maru, and is sunk AK Sasako Maru, and is sunk AK Kinka Maru, and is sunk AK Kyushu Maru, and is sunk AK Tosan Maru, and is sunk LSD Shinshu Maru, and is sunk APD Hagi, and is sunk CM Tsubame, and is sunk TB Chidori, and is sunk TB Manazuru, and is sunk TB Hatsukari, and is sunk TB Kasasagi, and is sunk Aircraft Attacking: 4 x SOC-1 Seagull bombing from 6000 feet Naval Attack: 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb Heavy smoke from fires obscuring AK Sakura Maru -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Clark Field at 78,76 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 3 minutes Allied aircraft P-35A x 4 P-40E Warhawk x 4 No Allied losses Japanese Ships xAK Shinko Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage PB Aso Maru #3, and is sunk Japanese ground losses: 13 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 4 x P-35A bombing from 100 feet Naval Attack: 2 x 100 lb GP Bomb _________________________ Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Clark Field at 78,76 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid spotted at 27 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 13 minutes Allied aircraft P-40B Warhawk x 4 P-40E Warhawk x 3 SOC-1 Seagull x 4 No Allied losses Japanese Ships xAK Shinko Maru, and is sunk Japanese ground losses: 170 casualties reported Squads: 6 destroyed, 2 disabled Non Combat: 10 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 4 x SOC-1 Seagull bombing from 6000 feet Naval Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAK Shinko Maru -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Clark Field at 78,76 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 2 minutes Allied aircraft P-35A x 2 No Allied losses Japanese Ships xAK Anyo Maru, heavy damage Aircraft Attacking: 2 x P-35A bombing from 100 feet Naval Attack: 2 x 100 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Bataan (78,77) Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 54765 troops, 549 guns, 318 vehicles, Assault Value = 1750 Defending force 10653 troops, 357 guns, 142 vehicles, Assault Value = 308 Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1 Japanese adjusted assault: 1271 Allied adjusted defense: 179 Japanese assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 1) Japanese forces CAPTURE Bataan !!! Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses No Allied losses Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), fatigue(-), experience(-) Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-) Japanese ground losses: 1935 casualties reported Squads: 3 destroyed, 123 disabled Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 129 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 20 disabled Vehicles lost 14 (3 destroyed, 11 disabled) Allied ground losses: 11519 casualties reported Squads: 404 destroyed, 166 disabled Non Combat: 909 destroyed, 165 disabled Engineers: 15 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 583 (550 destroyed, 33 disabled) Vehicles lost 123 (111 destroyed, 12 disabled) Units retreated 4 Units destroyed 5 Assaulting units: II./143rd Infantry Battalion Tanaka Detachment 21st Infantry Regiment 15th Ind. Engineer Regiment 11th Infantry Regiment Kanno Detachment 42nd Infantry Regiment 41st Infantry Regiment 21st Ind. Engineer Regiment 15th Naval Guard Unit 23rd Ind. Engineer Regiment I./143rd Infantry Battalion 12th Engineer Regiment I./124th Infantry Battalion 1st Tank Regiment 4th Ind. Engineer Regiment Sasebo 1st SNLF 114th Infantry Regiment 16th Naval Guard Unit 5th Recon Regiment 55th Infantry Regiment 5th Engineer Regiment 56th Infantry Regiment 3rd Ind. Engineer Regiment III./143rd Infantry Battalion 91st Naval Guard Unit 3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment 84th JAAF AF Bn 21st JAAF AF Bn 34th Field AA Battalion 18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 24th JAAF AF Bn 14th Army 55th Const Co 56th Const Co 3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment 53rd Const Co 7th Field AF Construction Battalion 9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 9th Field AF Construction Battalion 5th Field AF Construction Battalion 2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 8th JNAF Coy 6th JNAF Coy 32nd Field AA Battalion 18th JAAF Base Force 11th Shipping Engineer Regiment 20th AA Regiment 8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 40th JAAF AF Bn 5th Field Artillery Regiment 3rd Engineer Construction Battalion 54th Const Co 15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 25th Army 28th JAAF AF Bn 5th JAAF AF Coy Defending units: 31st Infantry Regiment 4th Marine Regiment Fort Hughes Fort Mills Fort Frank 1st/45th PS Inf Battalion Fort Drum Bataan USN Base Force 803rd Engineer Aviation Battalion __________________________________________________________ Over the two day period, 17 ships were lost to mines. As of December 16 the Japanese have lost 193 ships valued at 1,594 points. Losses near Iba, Clark, and Bataan run to about 10.5 pages, so no screen shots. Aside from the issue of coastal defense units, what I note from the post that started this thread is that mines played almost no role in that invasion, and that there was no surface action at any point, so apparently no ships on station like routine PT's, ASW assets, or mine sweepers like I had at Bataan. Aside from the effectiveness of multiple small forts with good commanders, it is worth noting the disruptive effect of minimal surface forces and the importance of defensive mining. I'm going to check on who was commanding Fort Drum, and find out what he eats for breakfast. Terser combat events reports for the two days: COMBAT EVENTS FOR 12/14/41 ADJUST TASK FORCE MISSIONS CALCULATE RANGE TO ENEMY CALCULATE AIR SUPERIORITY ASSIGN COMPUTER CONTROLLED UNITS Combat Events: NAVAL REACTION PHASE LOADING/UNLOADING TASK FORCES Amphibious TF 89 unloading at Legaspi TASK FORCE LOADING/UNLOADING COMPLETE CALCULATING TASK FORCE PATHS MINESWEEPING OPERATIONS NAVAL MOVEMENT PHASE Task Force 95 encounters enemy Task Force at 78 , 77 Surface Combat TF 98 withdrawing to Batangas after combat AK Sagami Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan AK Sado Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Ryoyo Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan AK Kyushu Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan Task Force 14 encounters enemy Task Force at 78 , 77 Surface Combat TF 93 withdrawing to Batangas after combat Surface Combat TF 14 withdrawing to Pescadores after combat Task Force 105 encounters enemy Task Force at 78 , 77 PT Boat TF 43 withdrawing to Bataan after combat Task Force 105 encounters enemy Task Force at 78 , 77 Mine Sweeping TF 86 withdrawing to Batangas after combat Mine Sweeping TF 86 withdrawing to Batangas after combat PB Aso Maru #3 hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Shinko Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan Task Force 12 encounters enemy Task Force at 78 , 77 AM Quail sinks.... AM Bittern sinks.... Mine Sweeping TF 86 withdrawing to Batangas after combat Mine Sweeping TF 86 withdrawing to Manila after combat SC Ch 12 hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan ADJUST SHIP FUEL NIGHT AIR OPERATIONS PHASE AIRCRAFT LANDING SHIP CREWS PERFORM DAMAGE CONTROL AMc Wa 19 sinks.... DMS W-4 sinks.... DMS W-9 sinks.... LCDR Tsuji, K. has been KILLED DMS W-10 sinks.... LCDR Nashiba, A. has been KILLED SC Ch 12 sinks.... SURFACE COMBAT CHECK DIVIDE CRIPPLED TFs SHIP CREWS PERFORM DAMAGE CONTROL AM Finch sinks.... SHIP CREWS PERFORM DAMAGE CONTROL Amphibious TF 89 unloading at Legaspi xAK Enju Maru hits Mk 10 Mine at Bataan Amphibious TF 95 offshore of Bataan Amphibious TF 105 offshore of Bataan REPAIRING SHIPS END 12 HOUR PULSE DIVIDE CRIPPLED TFs CHECKING TF FUEL TF'S RETURN TO PORT Combat Events: NAVAL REACTION PHASE LOADING/UNLOADING TASK FORCES Amphibious TF 95 unloading at Bataan Amphibious TF 105 unloading at Bataan Amphibious TF 89 unloading at Legaspi TASK FORCE LOADING/UNLOADING COMPLETE CALCULATING TASK FORCE PATHS MINESWEEPING OPERATIONS NAVAL MOVEMENT PHASE Naval Gun Fire at Bataan CL Natori hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan CL Natori hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan DD Hatakaze hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan DD Nagatsuki hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan DD Fumizuki hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan DD Minazuki hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan CL Natori hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan DD Hatakaze hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan DD Nagatsuki hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan DD Fumizuki hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan DD Minazuki hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan CL Natori hits Mk 10 Mine at Bataan Task Force 43 encounters enemy Task Force at 78 , 77 Allied Ships Reported to be Approaching! Japanese TF suspends unloading operations and begins to get underway PT Boat TF 43 withdrawing to Bataan after combat PT Boat TF 43 withdrawing to Bataan after combat Task Force 93 encounters enemy Task Force at 78 , 77 DD Blue sinks.... Surface Combat TF 93 withdrawing to Batangas after combat Surface Combat TF 93 withdrawing to Manila after combat Task Force 98 encounters enemy Task Force at 78 , 77 PG Asheville sinks.... PG Tulsa sinks.... AM Whippoorwill sinks.... Surface Combat TF 98 withdrawing to Batangas after combat Surface Combat TF 98 withdrawing to Manila after combat Surface Combat TF 12 withdrawing to Pescadores after combat Task Force 86 encounters enemy Task Force at 78 , 77 Mine Sweeping TF 86 withdrawing to Batangas after combat Mine Sweeping TF 86 withdrawing to Batangas after combat Task Force 86 encounters enemy Task Force at 78 , 77 Allied Ships Reported to be Approaching! Japanese TF suspends unloading operations and begins to get underway Mine Sweeping TF 86 withdrawing to Batangas after combat Mine Sweeping TF 86 withdrawing to Manila after combat ADJUST SHIP FUEL AIR OPERATIONS PHASE : AM E8N2 Dave sighting report: 8 Allied ships at 107,61 near Kobe, speed 10, Moving West F1M2 Pete reports submarine wake at 105, 56 near Shimonoseki E7K2 Alf reports periscope wake at 114, 62 near Yokohama/Yokosuka E13A1 Jake reports periscope at 89, 100 near Peleliu D3A1 Val sighting report: 4 Allied ships at 132,72 near Marcus Island, speed 18, Moving Northwest F1M2 Pete sighting report: Allied CA at 79,84 near Iloilo , Speed unknown E13A1 Jake sighting report: 3 Allied ships at 79,78 near Batangas , Speed 8 , Moving West E13A1 Jake sighting report: Allied AM at 79,78 near Batangas , Speed 10 , Moving Northeast E13A1 Jake sighting report: 3 Allied ships at 79,78 near Batangas , Speed 12 , Moving West E13A1 Jake sighting report: 6 Allied ships at 77,61 near Hong Kong , Speed unknown F1M2 Pete sighting report: 4 Allied ships at 78,76 near Clark Field , Speed 5 , Moving Southeast F1M2 Pete sighting report: 3 Allied ships at 79,78 near Batangas , Speed 10 , Moving West E7K2 Alf sighting report: 2 Allied ships at 47,74 near Langsa , Speed 10 , Moving Southeast E14Y1 Glen sighting report: 4 Allied ships at 180,107 near Pearl Harbor , Speed unknown E14Y1 Glen sighting report: 8 Allied ships at 180,107 near Pearl Harbor , Speed unknown E14Y1 Glen sighting report: 11 Allied ships at 180,107 near Pearl Harbor , Speed unknown SOC-1 Seagull sighting report: 5 Japanese ships at 179,107 near Pearl Harbor, speed 11, Moving Southeast PBY-5 Catalina sighting report: Japanese SS at 181,109 near Lanai , Speed 13 , Moving East PBY-4 Catalina sighting report: 19 Japanese ships at 78,77 near Bataan , Speed unknown PBY-4 Catalina sighting report: 8 Japanese ships at 79,76 near Clark Field , Speed 30 , Moving East SOC-1 Seagull has spotted CL Naka at 79,76 Do-24K-1 sighting report: 10 Japanese ships at 51,73 near Patani , Speed 16 , Moving East B-17D Fortress has spotted DD Yudachi at 79,76 9 x G4M1 Betty unable to locate target due to range or weather 6 x G3M2 Nell unable to locate target due to range or weather 5 x G3M2 Nell unable to locate target due to range or weather 9 x G4M1 Betty unable to locate target due to range or weather AIRCRAFT LANDING SHIP CREWS PERFORM DAMAGE CONTROL CL Katori sinks.... DD Minazuki sinks.... DD Fumizuki sinks.... CPT Hanamoto T. has been KILLED DD Nagatsuki sinks.... DD Yugumo sinks.... LCDR Ninokata, Kanehumi has been KILLED PB Kamitsu Maru sinks.... LCDR Arizumi, U. has been KILLED PB Kiso Maru sinks.... PB Nanpo Maru sinks.... PB Taiko Maru sinks.... PB Kyo Maru #12 sinks.... PB Kyo Maru #13 sinks.... SC Ch 1 sinks.... SC Ch 3 sinks.... SC Ch 4 sinks.... SC Ch 5 sinks.... SC Ch 6 sinks.... SC Ch 15 sinks.... xAK Brisbane Maru sinks.... xAKL Kumakawa Maru sinks.... xAKL Kurama Maru sinks.... xAKL Meiko Maru sinks.... xAKL Ryoyu Maru #21 sinks.... xAKL Kiko Maru sinks.... xAKL Anbo Maru sinks.... PG Isabel sinks.... AVD Childs sinks.... LCDR Abbate, F.K. has been KILLED DIVIDE CRIPPLED TFs AIR OPERATIONS PHASE : PM E13A1 Jake sighting report: 7 Allied ships at 122,55 near Kushiro, speed 10, Moving West H6K4 Mavis sighting report: 3 Allied ships at 115,55 near Niigata, speed 17, Moving Southwest D3A1 Val reports suspected submarine at 136, 72 near Marcus Island E14Y1 Glen sighting report: 11 Allied ships at 180,107 near Pearl Harbor , Speed unknown E14Y1 Glen sighting report: 9 Allied ships at 180,107 near Pearl Harbor , Speed 14 , Moving East E14Y1 Glen sighting report: 2 Allied ships at 180,107 near Pearl Harbor , Speed unknown SBD-2 Dauntless attacking a Japanese SS at 181,109 SOC-1 Seagull attacking a Type A1 class SS at 181,106 SBD-1 Dauntless attacking a Japanese SS at 181,106 PBY-5 Catalina sighting report: Japanese SS at 181,106 near Pearl Harbor , Speed 8 , Moving East PBY-5 Catalina attacking a Type J1 class SS at 181,109 PBY-5 Catalina attacking a Type KD7 class SS at 181,106 PBY-5 Catalina attacking a Type KRS class SS at 181,106 PBY-5 Catalina sighting report: Japanese SS at 181,106 near Pearl Harbor , Speed 11 , Moving East PBY-5 Catalina attacking a Type KD6A class SS at 180,106 PBY-4 Catalina has spotted DD Samidare at 79,76 PBY-4 Catalina has spotted xAK Shinko Maru at 78,77 PBY-4 Catalina sighting report: 4 Japanese ships at 76,68 near Hong Kong , Speed 9 , Moving East PBY-4 Catalina sighting report: 7 Japanese ships at 80,69 near Laoag , Speed 8 , Moving West OS2U-3 Kingfisher reports object under water at 225, 80 near San Clemente Island OS2U-3 Kingfisher sighting report: 2 Japanese ships at 73,77 near Culion , Speed 15 , Moving West SOC-1 Seagull has spotted xAKL Kembu Maru at 78,77 :::::::: xAKL Kembu Maru is reported HIT AIRCRAFT LANDING AIR TRANSPORT PHASE AIRCRAFT LANDING SHIP CREWS PERFORM DAMAGE CONTROL SURFACE COMBAT CHECK DIVIDE CRIPPLED TFs SHIP CREWS PERFORM DAMAGE CONTROL SHIP CREWS PERFORM DAMAGE CONTROL Amphibious TF 89 unloading at Legaspi Amphibious TF 95 unloading at Bataan Amphibious TF 105 unloading at Bataan COMBAT EVENTS FOR 12/15/41 ADJUST TASK FORCE MISSIONS CALCULATE RANGE TO ENEMY CALCULATE AIR SUPERIORITY ASSIGN COMPUTER CONTROLLED UNITS Combat Events: NAVAL REACTION PHASE LOADING/UNLOADING TASK FORCES Amphibious TF 95 unloading at Bataan TASK FORCE LOADING/UNLOADING COMPLETE CALCULATING TASK FORCE PATHS MINESWEEPING OPERATIONS NAVAL MOVEMENT PHASE Naval Gun Fire at Bataan CL Naka hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan DD Samidare hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan DD Samidare hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan DD Yudachi hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan DD Yudachi hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan DD Harusame hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan DD Harusame hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan DD Murasame hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan DD Asagumo hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan DD Minegumo hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan DD Natsugumo hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan CL Naka hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan DD Samidare hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan DD Yudachi hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan DD Harusame hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan CL Naka hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan DD Samidare hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan DD Harusame hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan DD Murasame hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan DD Asagumo hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan DD Yudachi hits Mk 10 Mine at Bataan DD Harusame hits Mk 10 Mine at Bataan Task Force 43 encounters enemy Task Force at 78 , 77 PT Boat TF 43 withdrawing to Bataan after combat PT Boat TF 43 withdrawing to Manila after combat DD Harukaze sinks.... DD Samidare sinks.... DD Yudachi sinks.... DD Harusame sinks.... DD Murasame sinks.... DD Hatsukaze sinks.... DD Kagero sinks.... Task Force 86 encounters enemy Task Force at 78 , 77 Allied Ships Reported to be Approaching! Japanese TF suspends unloading operations and begins to get underway Mine Sweeping TF 86 withdrawing to Batangas after combat Mine Sweeping TF 86 withdrawing to Batangas after combat Task Force 93 encounters enemy Task Force at 78 , 77 Allied Ships Reported to be Approaching! Japanese TF suspends unloading operations and begins to get underway xAKL Sasago Maru sinks.... Surface Combat TF 93 withdrawing to Batangas after combat Surface Combat TF 93 withdrawing to Batangas after combat Amphibious TF 95 withdrawing to Saigon after combat Task Force 93 encounters enemy Task Force at 78 , 77 DD Peary sinks.... Surface Combat TF 93 withdrawing to Batangas after combat Amphibious TF 105 withdrawing to Cam Ranh Bay after combat ADJUST SHIP FUEL NIGHT AIR OPERATIONS PHASE AIRCRAFT LANDING SHIP CREWS PERFORM DAMAGE CONTROL DD Minegumo sinks.... SC Ch 13 sinks.... LT Domen, N. has been KILLED SURFACE COMBAT CHECK PT Boat TF 43 withdrawing to Batangas after combat PT Boat TF 43 withdrawing to Batangas after combat PT Boat TF 43 withdrawing to Batangas after combat Mine Sweeping TF 86 withdrawing to Batangas after combat Mine Sweeping TF 86 withdrawing to Manila after combat DIVIDE CRIPPLED TFs SHIP CREWS PERFORM DAMAGE CONTROL SHIP CREWS PERFORM DAMAGE CONTROL xAKL Kembu Maru sinks.... REPAIRING SHIPS END 12 HOUR PULSE DIVIDE CRIPPLED TFs CHECKING TF FUEL TF'S RETURN TO PORT Combat Events: NAVAL REACTION PHASE LOADING/UNLOADING TASK FORCES TASK FORCE LOADING/UNLOADING COMPLETE CALCULATING TASK FORCE PATHS MINESWEEPING OPERATIONS NAVAL MOVEMENT PHASE Naval Gun Fire at Bataan TB Hatsukari hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan TB Hatsukari hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan TB Manazuru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan TB Chidori hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan CM Tsubame hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan CM Tsubame hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan APD Hagi hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan LSD Shinshu Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan LSD Shinshu Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan AK Tosan Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan AK Kyushu Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan AK Kyushu Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan AK Kinka Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan AK Kinka Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan AK Sasako Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan AK Sakura Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan AK Sagami Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan AK Sagami Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan AK Hirokawa Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan AK Hirokawa Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAP Naminoue Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAP Naminoue Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAP Koan Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAP Miike Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAP Brazil Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAP Brazil Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Zyuyo Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Yahiko Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Ryujo Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Kisogawa Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Kisogawa Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Igasa Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Hokuriku Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Hokko Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Hokko Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Chihaya Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Ayato Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Ayato Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Awajisan Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Awajisan Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Kyokko Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Kyokko Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Tamaki Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Tamaki Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Yahiko Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Yahiko Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Seizan Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Kinkasan Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Nanko Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Syoto Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Siraha Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Kuwayama Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Kuwayama Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Karachi Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Santos Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Meiyo Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Atago Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Atago Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Rokko Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Sydney Maru #2 hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Osaka Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Osaka Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Kokai Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Kokai Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Toho Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Toho Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Koryu Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Mogamigawa Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Johore Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Noto Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Noto Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Naruto Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Naruto Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Nako Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Tatumiya Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Teiyo Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Tatutaki Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Tatutaki Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Kogyo Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Kenyo Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Kinugawa Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Atutasan Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Asakasan Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Asakasan Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Asosan Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Asosan Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Aobasan Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Nankai Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Nankai Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Kashii Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Kansai Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Arima Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Arima Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAKL Korei Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAKL Nittatsu Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAKL Nittatsu Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAKL Raizan Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAKL Fukuei Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAKL Fukuei Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAKL Matsutan Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAKL Hidaka Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAKL Hidaka Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAKL Tatibana Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAKL Tatibana Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAKL Kasui Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAKL Kashi Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAKL Kashi Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAKL Hanakawa Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAKL Hanakawa Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAKL Hakuyo Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAKL Hakuyo Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAKL Yoshinogawa Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAKL Yoshinogawa Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan TF 102 ABORTS mission and returns to home port Naval Gun Fire at Bataan DD Yamagumo hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan SC Ch 14 hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan SC Ch 11 hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan SC Ch 11 hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan SC Ch 10 hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan SC Ch 2 hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan AV Sanuki Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan AV Sagara Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan AV Sagara Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan APD Fuji hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan APD Fuji hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan APD Aoi hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan APD Aoi hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan APD Nadakaze hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan APD Shimakaze hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Oigawa Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Oigawa Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Nojima Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Nojima Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Kuroshio Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Kuroshio Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Giyu Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Giyu Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Gosei Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Gosei Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Anzan Maru #2 hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Anzan Maru #2 hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Hokko Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Hokko Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Pacific Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Pacific Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Ohio Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Yamadori Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Tenzan Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Bunzan Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Shinyubari Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Kamoi Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Kamoi Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Atlas Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Atlas Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Takaoka Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Maya Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Maya Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Hokuan Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Hokuan Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Takao Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Syoka Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Syoka Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Matsukawa Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Matsukawa Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Keisho Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Sanko Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Sanko Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Kotoku Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Kotoku Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Kosei Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Kosei Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Okiyu Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Okiyu Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Keiyo Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Kumagawa Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Kumagawa Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Akiura Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Akiura Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Arizona Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Sydney Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan DD Yamagumo hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan SC Ch 14 hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan SC Ch 11 hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan SC Ch 10 hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan SC Ch 2 hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan AV Sanuki Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan AV Sagara Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan APD Fuji hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan APD Aoi hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan APD Nadakaze hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan APD Shimakaze hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Chuko Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Oigawa Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Nojima Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Meiten Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Kuroshio Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Giyu Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Gosei Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Anzan Maru #2 hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Yuzan Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Ohio Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Yamadori Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan SC Ch 11 hits Mk 10 Mine at Bataan SC Ch 2 hits Mk 10 Mine at Bataan TF 108 ABORTS mission and returns to home port Naval Gun Fire at Bataan xAK Zenyo Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Zenyo Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Ryoyo Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan xAK Enju Maru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan TB Tomozuru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan TB Tomozuru hits Mk 6 Mine at Bataan TF 110 ABORTS mission and returns to home port DD Yamagumo sinks.... SC Ch 14 sinks.... SC Ch 11 sinks.... SC Ch 10 sinks.... SC Ch 2 sinks.... AV Sanuki Maru sinks.... AV Sagara Maru sinks.... APD Fuji sinks.... APD Aoi sinks.... APD Nadakaze sinks.... APD Shimakaze sinks.... xAK Chuko Maru sinks.... xAK Oigawa Maru sinks.... xAK Nojima Maru sinks.... xAK Meiten Maru sinks.... xAK Kuroshio Maru sinks.... xAK Giyu Maru sinks.... xAK Gosei Maru sinks.... xAK Anzan Maru #2 sinks.... xAK Yuzan Maru sinks.... xAK Hokko Maru sinks.... xAK Pacific Maru sinks.... xAK Ohio Maru sinks.... xAK Yamadori Maru sinks.... xAK Tenzan Maru sinks.... xAK Shirogane Maru sinks.... xAK Shinyubari Maru sinks.... xAK Kamoi Maru sinks.... CPT Matsumura U. has been KILLED xAK Atlas Maru sinks.... CPT Muraji, B. has been KILLED xAK Takaoka Maru sinks.... CPT Kito, S. has been KILLED xAK Maya Maru sinks.... xAK Hokuan Maru sinks.... xAK Syoka Maru sinks.... xAK Matsukawa Maru sinks.... xAK Keisho Maru sinks.... xAK Sanko Maru sinks.... xAK Kotoku Maru sinks.... xAK Kosei Maru sinks.... xAK Okiyu Maru sinks.... xAK Keiyo Maru sinks.... xAK Kumagawa Maru sinks.... xAK Kazuura Maru sinks.... xAK Akiura Maru sinks.... xAK Arizona Maru sinks.... xAK Sydney Maru sinks.... TF 105 ABORTS mission and returns to home port ADJUST SHIP FUEL xAK Tatukami Maru sinks.... AIR OPERATIONS PHASE : AM H6K4 Mavis sighting report: 6 Allied ships at 99,56 near Saishu To, speed 11, Moving Southeast H6K4 Mavis reports radio transmissions at 86, 97 near Babeldaob E7K2 Alf reports suspected submarine at 112, 64 near Aogashima F1M2 Pete sighting report: 1 Allied ship at 107,90 near Saipan, speed 15, Moving Southwest E13A1 Jake sighting report: Allied CA at 79,84 near Iloilo , Speed unknown E13A1 Jake sighting report: 6 Allied ships at 77,61 near Hong Kong , Speed unknown E13A1 Jake sighting report: 4 Allied ships at 50,84 near Singapore , Speed unknown E14Y1 Glen sighting report: 11 Allied ships at 180,107 near Pearl Harbor , Speed unknown E14Y1 Glen sighting report: 10 Allied ships at 180,107 near Pearl Harbor , Speed unknown E14Y1 Glen sighting report: 11 Allied ships at 180,107 near Pearl Harbor , Speed unknown E14Y1 Glen sighting report: 6 Allied ships at 180,107 near Pearl Harbor , Speed unknown E14Y1 Glen sighting report: Allied DD at 180,107 near Pearl Harbor , Speed unknown E14Y1 Glen sighting report: 4 Allied ships at 180,107 near Pearl Harbor , Speed unknown E14Y1 Glen sighting report: 2 Allied ships at 180,107 near Pearl Harbor , Speed unknown SOC-1 Seagull sighting report: Japanese SS at 181,109 near Lanai , Speed 12 , Moving East PBY-5 Catalina attacking a Type KD7 class SS at 179,109 :::::::: a Japanese SS is reported HIT PBY-5 Catalina attacking a Type J1 class SS at 181,106 :::::::: a Type B1/B2 class SS is reported HIT PBY-5 Catalina sighting report: Japanese SS at 179,109 near Pearl Harbor , Speed 18 , Moving East PBY-4 Catalina sighting report: 3 Japanese ships at 78,76 near Clark Field , Speed 4 , Moving Northwest PBY-4 Catalina sighting report: Japanese xAK at 77,77 near Bataan , Speed unknown PBY-4 Catalina sighting report: 9 Japanese ships at 81,68 near Hengchun , Speed 10 , Moving East PBY-4 Catalina sighting report: 19 Japanese ships at 78,77 near Bataan , Speed unknown PBY-4 Catalina sighting report: 2 Japanese ships at 78,76 near Clark Field , Speed 0 , Moving Northwest PBY-4 Catalina sighting report: 5 Japanese ships at 77,76 near Clark Field , Speed 10 , Moving Northwest PBY-4 Catalina has spotted a Std-D Cargo class xAK at 77,77 :::::::: a Gozan Cargo class xAK is reported HIT PBY-4 Catalina sighting report: 2 Japanese ships at 76,77 near Bataan , Speed 11 , Moving West T.IVa reports radio transmissions at 57, 102 near Soerabaja Catalina I sighting report: 8 Japanese ships at 51,73 near Patani , Speed 11 , Moving East O-47A has spotted a Japanese xAK at 77,77 :::::::: a Ansyu-C Cargo class xAK is reported HIT xAKL Yoshinogawa Maru sinks.... xAKL Hakuyo Maru sinks.... xAKL Hanakawa Maru sinks.... xAKL Kashi Maru sinks.... xAKL Kasui Maru sinks.... xAKL Tatibana Maru sinks.... xAKL Tatebu Maru sinks.... xAKL Hidaka Maru sinks.... xAKL Matsutan Maru sinks.... xAKL Fukuei Maru sinks.... xAKL Raizan Maru sinks.... xAKL Nittatsu Maru sinks.... xAKL Korei Maru sinks.... xAK Arima Maru sinks.... xAK Ayatosan Maru sinks.... xAK Kansai Maru sinks.... xAK Kashii Maru sinks.... xAK Nankai Maru sinks.... xAK Aobasan Maru sinks.... xAK Asosan Maru sinks.... xAK Asakasan Maru sinks.... xAK Kinugawa Maru sinks.... xAK Kenyo Maru sinks.... xAK Kogyo Maru sinks.... xAK Tatutaki Maru sinks.... xAK Teiyo Maru sinks.... xAK Tatumiya Maru sinks.... xAK Nagara Maru sinks.... xAK Nako Maru sinks.... xAK Naruto Maru sinks.... xAK Noto Maru sinks.... xAK Johore Maru sinks.... xAK Mogamigawa Maru sinks.... xAK Koryu Maru sinks.... xAK Toho Maru sinks.... xAK Kokai Maru sinks.... xAK Osaka Maru sinks.... xAK Sydney Maru #2 sinks.... xAK Rokko Maru sinks.... xAK Atago Maru sinks.... xAK Meiyo Maru sinks.... xAK Santos Maru sinks.... xAK Karachi Maru sinks.... xAK Kuwayama Maru sinks.... xAK Syoto Maru sinks.... xAK Nanko Maru sinks.... xAK Kinkasan Maru sinks.... xAK Seizan Maru sinks.... xAK Yahiko Maru sinks.... xAK Tamaki Maru sinks.... xAK Kyokko Maru sinks.... xAK Awajisan Maru sinks.... xAK Ayato Maru sinks.... xAK Chihaya Maru sinks.... xAK Hokko Maru sinks.... xAK Hokuriku Maru sinks.... xAK Igasa Maru sinks.... xAK Kisogawa Maru sinks.... xAK Kiyozumi Maru sinks.... xAK Ryujo Maru sinks.... xAK Yahiko Maru sinks.... xAK Zyuyo Maru sinks.... xAP Brazil Maru sinks.... xAP Miike Maru sinks.... xAP Koan Maru sinks.... xAP Naminoue Maru sinks.... AK Hirokawa Maru sinks.... AK Sagami Maru sinks.... AK Sasako Maru sinks.... AK Kinka Maru sinks.... AK Kyushu Maru sinks.... AK Tosan Maru sinks.... LSD Shinshu Maru sinks.... APD Hagi sinks.... CM Tsubame sinks.... TB Chidori sinks.... TB Manazuru sinks.... TB Hatsukari sinks.... TB Kasasagi sinks.... PB Aso Maru #3 sinks.... LCDR Miwa, N. has been KILLED AIRCRAFT LANDING SHIP CREWS PERFORM DAMAGE CONTROL TB Tomozuru sinks.... AK Sado Maru sinks.... CDR Takemoto, J. has been KILLED AK Sakura Maru sinks.... xAK Hawaii Maru sinks.... CPT Ishise, Z. has been KILLED xAK Atutasan Maru sinks.... xAK Zenyo Maru sinks.... CPT Shiga, A. has been KILLED xAK Nissyu Maru sinks.... CDR Mukai, Z. has been KILLED xAK Takao Maru sinks.... xAK Bunzan Maru sinks.... CPT Shiraishi, E. has been KILLED xAK Siraha Maru sinks.... CDR Nagamura, T. has been KILLED xAK Ryoyo Maru sinks.... CDR Kuwashige, R. has been KILLED xAK Zinzan Maru sinks.... CPT Mase, D. has been KILLED xAK Enju Maru sinks.... CPT Muchaku, W. has been KILLED DIVIDE CRIPPLED TFs AIR OPERATIONS PHASE : PM E8N2 Dave reports periscope at 106, 61 near Kochi F1M2 Pete reports shape below surface at 106, 56 near Hiroshima/Kure H6K4 Mavis sighting report: 10 Allied ships at 100,94 near Ulithi, speed 14, Moving West C5M2 Babs sighting report: 6 Allied ships at 49,70 near Phuket, speed 17, Moving Southeast E13A1 Jake sighting report: 9 Allied ships at 47,81 near Bengkalis , Speed 13 , Moving Southwest E7K2 Alf sighting report: 10 Allied ships at 70,64 near Samah, speed 17, Moving Northwest PBY-5 Catalina attacking a Type J3 class SS at 181,106 :::::::: a Type J1 class SS is reported HIT PBY-5 Catalina sighting report: Japanese SS at 185,107 near Lahaina , Speed 14 , Moving East PBY-4 Catalina has spotted xAK Fushimi Maru at 78,77 :::::::: xAK Fushimi Maru is reported HIT PBY-4 Catalina has spotted xAK Anyo Maru at 78,76 PBY-4 Catalina has spotted xAK Anyo Maru at 78,76 Do-24K-1 sighting report: 2 Japanese ships at 75,73 near Iba , Speed 12 , Moving Northwest Catalina I sighting report: 9 Japanese ships at 51,73 near Patani , Speed 14 , Moving East Escort of 4 x P-40E Warhawk from 24th PG/17th PS loses contact with raid, proceeding onto target Escort of 2 x P-40E Warhawk from 35th PG/21st PS loses contact with raid, returning to base xAK Shinko Maru sinks.... AIRCRAFT LANDING AIR TRANSPORT PHASE AIRCRAFT LANDING SHIP CREWS PERFORM DAMAGE CONTROL SURFACE COMBAT CHECK DIVIDE CRIPPLED TFs SHIP CREWS PERFORM DAMAGE CONTROL xAK Fushimi Maru sinks.... SHIP CREWS PERFORM DAMAGE CONTROL REPAIRING SHIPS END 12 HOUR PULSE DIVIDE CRIPPLED TFs CHECKING TF FUEL TF'S RETURN TO PORT Japanese forces CAPTURE Bataan !!! 31st Infantry Regiment RETREATING towards Clark Field 4th Marine Regiment SURRENDERS !!! Fort Hughes SURRENDERS !!! Fort Mills SURRENDERS !!! Fort Frank SURRENDERS !!! 1st/45th PS Inf Battalion RETREATING towards Clark Field Fort Drum SURRENDERS !!! Bataan USN Base Force RETREATING towards Clark Field 803rd Engineer Aviation Battalion RETREATING towards Clark Field

Central Blue -> RE: Amphibious invasion of Pearl Harbor - results (1/14/2010 2:33:18 PM)
Since Fort Drum was the top shooter, who was in command? A fellow by the name of Lt. Col. W. McCormick: leadership: 62, Inspiration: 68, Naval: 30, Land: 77, Administration: 66, Aggression: 54 Next up, at Fort Mills, Col. May leadership: 44, Inspiration: 53, Naval: 21, Land: 55, Administration: 59, Aggression: 60 And big oopsie, I've got the numbers way wrong on the guns for Fort Drum. I forgot to check the second page of the Manila CD unit I over-wrote. How embarrassing can it get![&:] Still, it does show what a competent commander can do with a lot of guns. [:)]

oldman45 -> RE: Amphibious invasion of Pearl Harbor - results (1/14/2010 2:38:57 PM)
For all the damage that the invasion fleet took, I didn't notice any causultie among the invading infantry. So if I am reading this right, the ships unloaded then they were destroyed by mines or guns. Is that correct?

John Lansford -> RE: Amphibious invasion of Pearl Harbor - results (1/14/2010 3:00:33 PM)
I wonder just how big the minefield off of Bataan was; it looked like the invading ships hit about every mine in the field. What did you give Fort Drum for weaponry? The fort had 4 14" guns in two dual turrets and two dual 6" guns firing from the 'sides' of the fort, plus some 3" AA guns. There's an interesting website on the construction and history of Fort Drum here: http://concretebattleship.org/

Central Blue -> RE: Amphibious invasion of Pearl Harbor - results (1/14/2010 3:09:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: oldman45 For all the damage that the invasion fleet took, I didn't notice any causultie among the invading infantry. So if I am reading this right, the ships unloaded then they were destroyed by mines or guns. Is that correct? Looks like there were some minor casualties caused by coastal gunfire during the off-loading. As I remember the screens flying by during the turns, more were lost during unloading, but those don't seem to be represented in the yards of screen I posted. I'll let those concerned argue about the "accuracy" of that. I'll settle for what LTC McCormick did with the guns of the original CD unit for Bataan. My attitude is that if the invader is willing to lose that many ships that early in the game, more power to him. Anyway, I am going to assign better commanders to the other forts, correct the numbers for Fort Drum, and subtract the 3" and 155's into their own separate batteries because they don't seem to have joined the party at quite the same rate as the naval rifles. But that will be later today. However, I am coming to the conclusion that the CD's aren't so broke that they require the programmers to get involved. Minor tweaks to the OOB's and prep points would cover most of the problems that couldn't be solved by players assigning competent commanders, putting out mines (plenty at Pearl), and having standard security assets afloat at any base they seriously intend to defend. At Pearl I would have everything that floated formed up if only to add their AA fire.

Central Blue -> RE: Amphibious invasion of Pearl Harbor - results (1/14/2010 3:15:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: John Lansford I wonder just how big the minefield off of Bataan was; it looked like the invading ships hit about every mine in the field. What did you give Fort Drum for weaponry? The fort had 4 14" guns in two dual turrets and two dual 6" guns firing from the 'sides' of the fort, plus some 3" AA guns. There's an interesting website on the construction and history of Fort Drum here: http://concretebattleship.org/ She had all of that, plus whatever was on the second page of the original Bataan CD unit. [:)] There are 966 mines, including those added by the subs. But there were approximately 200 ships in the various TF's So there are still more out there for any mine sweepers he has left.

Mike Scholl -> RE: Amphibious invasion of Pearl Harbor - results (1/14/2010 3:41:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Brady Something else to consider is that most of these weapons were in Open Positions and would of been easy meat for Air attacks. The Japanese also knew where everything was, as evidenced by the fixed gun positions being marked on the maps found in downed Japanese planes. One would think so..., but all the evidence from the Philippines Campaign says "No.., they weren't". The Japs had free rein to bomb the Manila Bay Forts for FOUR MONTHS prior to their surrender (and added heavy artillery to the mix during the last 30 days); yet only two of the guns were knocked out. US discovered the same think at Sweinfurt..., they bombed the ball bearing works, but the massive machinery that actually made the bearings proved virtually impervious to bombs and was back in action as soon as it could be dug out of the rubble.

Bullwinkle58 -> RE: Amphibious invasion of Pearl Harbor - results (1/14/2010 3:47:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Blackhorse But here the major issue -- if it is in fact representative of how CD guns normally engage their targets -- does not appear to be caused by excessive disruption. It appears that every CD gun fires simultaneously at the same target, until they run out of ammo. In the first post, we see that all 12 "batteries" (weapon slots) fired together at the same 9 ships. If each battery had engaged a separate target, there is a maximum possible 108 targets they could have engaged. Not all of them would have sunk, of course, but the Japanese would have taken a hard hit to their merchant marine in order to get ashore. Can you divulge anything about range is handled in the CD code? Is every device in the CD unit considered to have the range to hit any target in the same hex? Or are there range checks or randoms so that some ships are out of range for the devices, like mortars, with shorter ranges than others, like 16-in guns? I've only seen a few ranges in the combat reports--12,000, 3000, and 1000 yards. Are those window-dressing or is there really a range determination in the routines?

oldman45 -> RE: Amphibious invasion of Pearl Harbor - results (1/14/2010 4:35:49 PM)
Before we hand out the awards, if there is a way to test the CD's when the US invades in 43/45. Early war invasions are a bit bias to the japanese because of the amphib bonus.

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