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Gunhawk -> RE: looking forward to this game (4/16/2010 5:00:13 AM)


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ORIGINAL: lparkh

Understand where you are coming from. As a recent post explained 80% of his time is elsewhere on boardgame products right now. But two guys are working on the game. Current status is killing bugs in scenaro 7 of soviet campaign.
We willget there I believe.. the only way I don't see it happening is if the AI programming proves too much for them. My guess is 4th qtr this year.. if lucky maybe summer.


There's no information to indicate that once scenario 7 is finished that the game will be ready to deliver. Mark didn't say that. Nobody said that. I don't see any reason at all to think that this game will be completed this year. When I asked mark for a target *year* in 2009 he wouldn't answer. That's all the information that we have. Which is no information at all.



lparkh -> RE: looking forward to this game (4/16/2010 6:00:15 PM)

A lot of companies (the small ones esp) go with 'it's done when it's done.' Which is wise IMHO (rather then giving a target year). I understand your reasoning and who knows maybe you are right but my reasoning is:
-- they are debugging campaigns. therefore they have finished the engine and done the campaigns. This is significant
-- they are on scenario 7. I am *guessing|inferring* therefore that they went through scenarios 1 to 6 and they are good. So that is good.
-- My impression is that there are net two campaigns. Therefore being on scenario 7 of two campaigns (my impression is there are less then 20 scenarios per a campaign) is progress.
-- I think scenario 7 might be one of the big river ones of which there are screenshots. Those look like maximally complex scenarios both in terms of scale, variety of terrain etc. Therefore I am *guessing|inferring" that if they can get 7 fixed then subsequent scenarios will show fewer bugs.

So that's my tea reading based on some information and guess/inference :-) Rather then just pure guessing :-)
My background is computer science and I'm writing a game myself so that's how I go with some of the reasoning above. That being said, you could be totally right :-)



Gunhawk -> RE: looking forward to this game (4/20/2010 5:28:18 AM)


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ORIGINAL: lparkh

A lot of companies (the small ones esp) go with 'it's done when it's done.' Which is wise IMHO (rather then giving a target year).


Back in February of 2006 Mark said:

"Yep, we have a team in place and programming is well underway. I have a version I'm testing on my computer. We aren't at beta, yet. When we reach that point I'll open it up for beta testers.

With luck it'll be out this year, but I'm not promising a release date".

So I have two questions here. First, if Mark thought it would be out in 2006 "with luck", what could have held this game up for *four years*?? And second, if the game hasn't been opened for Beta testing yet, how can it possibly be finished this year?



lparkh -> RE: looking forward to this game (4/20/2010 6:37:05 PM)

2006? ouch.
On the upside they posted for "outside testers" (one post said beta) in 11/2008. So about 1.5 years ago. That could cut either way I suppose.



MajFrankBurns -> RE: looking forward to this game (4/21/2010 12:35:30 AM)

This game is vaporware.



ham17 -> RE: looking forward to this game (4/21/2010 2:30:44 PM)

No,this is a bait.



bosbes -> RE: looking forward to this game (4/21/2010 6:40:02 PM)

Don't know what to think...[&:]



Skanvak -> RE: looking forward to this game (4/22/2010 7:05:21 AM)

AT least there are 2 guys on the project that more than most Matrix game :D



wodin -> RE: looking forward to this game (4/22/2010 8:10:13 AM)

Its not like Matrix haven't had vaporware title before...one that was really popular aswell....remember Combat Leader? Funny how that was a Squad based game aswell. Also the forum had far more updates than this one it it still went under.



Obsolete -> RE: looking forward to this game (4/22/2010 10:43:13 AM)

Wodin, you bring up an old issue I'd like to bring up.  I've never even been able to read the archive for Combat Leader, as all I've ever got was:


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wodin -> RE: looking forward to this game (4/22/2010 6:11:17 PM)

I mentioned Combat Leader in the general forum a few weeks ago. Not much response. They should sell or even give away the code they have (if they still have it) to an indy developer. If I was a programmer I'd want to take a look as I know if the game worked the way they said it would it would be a big seller.

Combat Leader is a game I was really looking forward to. Infact it was the game that got me to Matrix. It had more promise than Lock n Load.

Strange you can't access the old forum.



Obsolete -> RE: looking forward to this game (4/22/2010 8:05:21 PM)

I did read some of the basics of the rule-sets and it did indeed seem interesting.  Perhaps it was too ambitious a project.

I think this year I will mostly stick to just Civilization-V (depends on the DRM), and Combat Command II.  And then.... I will see if a miracle happens and ASL finally makes it to the PC again, and hopefully not the scam that Hasbro turned it into.







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