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Coach Z -> Torpedoing Helens? (3/26/2010 9:49:50 PM)

I never realized that Helens could carry torpedoes!
On February 28th, 1943 several Helens in conjunction with several bomb ladden Sally's & Helens attack a British TF 240 miles west of Tavoy.

Day Air attack on TF at 24,37

Japanese aircraft
J2M Jack x 20
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 13
Ki-21 Sally x 24
Ki-49 Helen x 35

Allied aircraft
Wildcat V x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
Ki-49 Helen: 2 destroyed, 29 damaged


Allied Ships
CV Victorious, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
BB Valiant, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CL Birmingham
CL Sumatra
CL Tromp
CA Frobisher

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 10000 feet
2 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
2 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Ki-49 Helen launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Ki-49 Helen launching torpedoes at 200 feet

4 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet




flaggelant -> RE: Torpedoing Helens? (3/28/2010 11:00:24 PM)

are you playing a mod or stock?




Misconduct -> RE: Torpedoing Helens? (3/28/2010 11:30:59 PM)

Yeah it must be a mod, Stock would not have Ki-49's carrying Torpedoes, although it could very well carry a torpedo as the maximum load is 2,200lbs, but I don't recall any times it ever has. 




Coach Z -> RE: Torpedoing Helens? (3/29/2010 1:35:53 AM)

Sorry Guys NO MOD ...STOCK Turning Point Scenario!




rominet -> RE: Torpedoing Helens? (3/29/2010 2:55:40 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Coach Z

I never realized that Helens could carry torpedoes!
On February 28th, 1943 several Helens in conjunction with several bomb ladden Sally's & Helens attack a British TF 240 miles west of Tavoy.

Day Air attack on TF at 24,37

Japanese aircraft
J2M Jack x 20
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 13
Ki-21 Sally x 24
Ki-49 Helen x 35

Allied aircraft
Wildcat V x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
Ki-49 Helen: 2 destroyed, 29 damaged


Allied Ships
CV Victorious, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
BB Valiant, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CL Birmingham
CL Sumatra
CL Tromp
CA Frobisher

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 10000 feet
2 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
2 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Ki-49 Helen launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Ki-49 Helen launching torpedoes at 200 feet

4 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet


Did you ever divide your Helen's unit in 3 fragments A, B ,C and recombine it later?




flaggelant -> RE: Torpedoing Helens? (3/29/2010 8:02:33 PM)

rominet, do you know something we dont?? [X(]




Coach Z -> RE: Torpedoing Helens? (3/29/2010 9:00:13 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: rominet

Did you ever divide your Helen's unit in 3 fragments A, B ,C and recombine it later?



Nope!





rominet -> RE: Torpedoing Helens? (3/29/2010 9:05:17 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: flaggelant

rominet, do you know something we dont?? [X(]


I don't know but recently, i had a strange bug.
I discovered that many of my fighter groups had not the good weapons.
I show you some screens:

[img]http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/4430/normala6m2.png[/img]
Good A6M2
[img]http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/5905/infecteda6m2.png[/img]
Bad A6M2

[img]http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/9329/normala6m3.png[/img]
Good A6M3
[img]http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/9638/infecteda6m3.png[/img]
Bad A6M3

[img]http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/2690/normalki43.png[/img]
Good Oscar
[img]http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/8421/infectedki43.png[/img]
Bad Oscar

[img]http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/4710/normalki44.png[/img]
Good Tojo
[img]http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/5932/infectedki44.png[/img]
Bad Tojo

My opinion is that this bug may appear when i recombine the 3 fragment A/B/C in 1 unit. Sometimes (i don't know why only sometimes), the change in weapons appears.

And it occured at least once with a bomber unit.
One day, i discovered that one of my Lily II unit (upgraded from Lily I) had 3x250kg bombs. It shouln't.
In my game, the Lily II must have 8x100kg bombs.
I was surprised. But now, i understand.

Perhaps the Helen had the same trouble.[&:]




rominet -> RE: Torpedoing Helens? (3/29/2010 9:06:51 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Coach Z


quote:

ORIGINAL: rominet

Did you ever divide your Helen's unit in 3 fragments A, B ,C and recombine it later?



Nope!




Has your Helen's unit been upgraded from an other plane or not?




Coach Z -> RE: Torpedoing Helens? (3/30/2010 4:59:31 PM)



Has your Helen's unit been upgraded from an other plane or not?
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Yes they were upgraded, but they upgraded from LILLYs to HELENs.






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