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doomtrader -> President of Poland died in plane crash (4/10/2010 9:58:56 AM)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8612825.stm

He was not my choice but let's give him a minute of silence

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lech_Kaczyński



doomtrader -> RE: President of Poland died in plane crash (4/10/2010 10:03:29 AM)

On the plane was 96 people. All of them dies




Vorsteher -> RE: President of Poland died in plane crash (4/10/2010 10:04:57 AM)

Mein Beileid.

V.



Greybriar -> RE: President of Poland died in plane crash (4/10/2010 10:10:58 AM)

Tragic news! [:(]



doomtrader -> RE: President of Poland died in plane crash (4/10/2010 10:24:56 AM)

There was many ministers and politicians aboard, Polish Army High Command (land, air, special forces), also some church authorities.
This is a real tragic for our country.

All of them were going to Katyń.



WachtamRhein -> RE: President of Poland died in plane crash (4/10/2010 11:04:03 AM)

How ironic that the Polish cabinet goes to visit a place to commemorate the death of Polish officers and die themselves. A shame really.



JSS -> RE: President of Poland died in plane crash (4/10/2010 11:10:04 AM)

This is very sad news. My prayers go out to the families who've lost loved ones and to the Polish people.

JSS



wodin -> RE: President of Poland died in plane crash (4/10/2010 11:59:38 AM)

Przykro mi około ten śmierć od to all who died

WYRAZY SZCZEREGO ÝALU I WSPÓÙCZUCIA Z POWODU ÚMIERCI Lech_Kaczyñski and all the others

(hope it makes sense)



Joe D. -> RE: President of Poland died in plane crash (4/10/2010 1:32:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: WachtamRhein

How ironic that the Polish cabinet goes to visit a place to commemorate the death of Polish officers and die themselves. A shame really.


First reports indicate a fog and that the plane -- long beyond its years for flying -- flew too low and hit the tree tops, but this still reminds me of another incident where a famed WW II Polish general -- who was unpopular w/the USSR -- died in a plane crash that apparently wasn't an accident.



Erik Rutins -> RE: President of Poland died in plane crash (4/10/2010 1:41:43 PM)

Our thoughts are with Poland.



Josh -> RE: President of Poland died in plane crash (4/10/2010 1:46:57 PM)

Sorry to hear that Doomtrader.
Yes your president was well known here, he made the headlines quite a few times in our newspapers. Sad to hear 132 people died in an airplane crash.

/update

It was even broadcasted on Eurosport, they broadcasted a condolance message, and I was watching the European Weighlifting Championships and there the Polish weightlifters were wearing black ribbons.



Peter Fisla -> RE: President of Poland died in plane crash (4/10/2010 2:38:13 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: doomtrader

There was many ministers and politicians aboard, Polish Army High Command (land, air, special forces), also some church authorities.
This is a real tragic for our country.

All of them were going to Katyń.


This is a sad day for Poland, you and your country have my condolence. The irony is that the president and his staff were going to visit Katyn forest where thousands of polish military personnel and civil people were massacred by Russian army during WW2.



vonRocko -> RE: President of Poland died in plane crash (4/10/2010 3:11:14 PM)

What a tragedy for the whole country! It is also sad that my local newspaper didn't say a word about this, but plenty about baseball,tiger woods and tina fey. Very sad.



Prince of Eckmühl -> RE: President of Poland died in plane crash (4/10/2010 3:25:37 PM)

Awfully convenient for Putin.



Adam Parker -> RE: President of Poland died in plane crash (4/10/2010 3:26:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Joe D

....but this still reminds me of another incident where a famed WW II Polish general -- who was unpopular w/the USSR -- died in a plane crash that apparently wasn't an accident.


Or that last night on the BBC, Poland openly chastized Russia for commencing production of the Nord Stream pipeline that would completely by-pass Poland in bringing natural gas to Germany, depriving it of billions of dollars in transit fees and ...

quote:

...where it will link up with the energy grids of European countries, including Germany, Denmark, the Netherlands, Belgium, France and the United Kingdom" - Oil and Gas Financial Journal.


The Polish Foreign Minister called it the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pipeline .



doomtrader -> RE: President of Poland died in plane crash (4/10/2010 3:50:13 PM)

If you would like to discuss Polish-Russian relationships, please start new thread.



Erik Rutins -> RE: President of Poland died in plane crash (4/10/2010 4:12:03 PM)

Indeed, a reminder please to keep politics out of this.



V22 Osprey -> RE: President of Poland died in plane crash (4/10/2010 5:19:53 PM)

Damn, the President of Poland + 132 people all dead....that's just sad.....speechless



Larac -> RE: President of Poland died in plane crash (4/10/2010 7:16:48 PM)

Bows head.

I believe Poland is able to weather this storm, good luck and well wishes, to all those in Poland.

Lee



Helpless -> RE: President of Poland died in plane crash (4/10/2010 8:37:07 PM)

Condolences to all Polish members and entire Polish nation [:(]

R.I.P.



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Monter_Trismegistos -> RE: President of Poland died in plane crash (4/10/2010 10:06:13 PM)

A really sad day for our country.

Among those who were killed were:
President,
Operational Commander of Armed Forces
Commander of Air Forces
Commander of Land Forces
Commander of Special Forces
Commander of Navy.

And BTW - number of 132 victims is incorrect. Aboard plane were 88 passengers + 8 crewmen.








Arctic Blast -> RE: President of Poland died in plane crash (4/10/2010 10:31:32 PM)

Looks like quite a few MPs and senators, too. Wow.

What an incredibly sad day. [:(]



V22 Osprey -> RE: President of Poland died in plane crash (4/10/2010 11:16:01 PM)

So basically, the entire Polish country and military is without a commander. Did they put too many eggs in one basket or what?[8|]



jwarrenw13 -> RE: President of Poland died in plane crash (4/10/2010 11:48:22 PM)

Prayers for the people of Poland and the families of those killed.



rickier65 -> RE: President of Poland died in plane crash (4/11/2010 12:17:39 AM)

This was a tragedy My condolences to the the eople of Poland, as well as to the families of those who died.

Rick



hgilmer3 -> RE: President of Poland died in plane crash (4/11/2010 1:11:36 AM)

Condolences to the land of my grandfather.



Dennistoun -> RE: President of Poland died in plane crash (4/11/2010 1:51:43 AM)


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ORIGINAL: V22 Osprey

So basically, the entire Polish country and military is without a commander. Did they put too many eggs in one basket or what?[8|]

Very sad day for the great nation of Poland. North East Scotland has had a rich and long-lasting Polish community dating back to the Second World War when some of the Polish men-at-arms were billeted in the area and settled down here after the war.
However, V22 does make a very valid point. Why were most of the military and civilian establishment travelling on one aircraft at the same time?



Zakhal -> RE: President of Poland died in plane crash (4/11/2010 6:09:58 AM)

So many top officials? Sounds like a horrible accident. A sad day for the people of Poland.

Apparently the plane also carried the families of katyn massacre victims:

quote:

Kaczynski's wife, Polish church leaders and families of Katyn massacre victims were also killed.
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/europe/2010/04/201041020134154740.html





JudgeDredd -> RE: President of Poland died in plane crash (4/11/2010 7:54:03 AM)

I was brought up with Lech Walesa in the news through the 80's.



doomtrader -> RE: President of Poland died in plane crash (4/11/2010 8:49:04 AM)

V22 Osprey, teddy, probably they are going to look people responsible for after the mourning will end.
We have got similar accident two years ago when several top high air commanders where traveling one plane and it crashed, it looks like nobody take a lesson.
Discussion about buying new airfleet for government has been lasting for many years (at least since governmental chopper crashed in 2003), but they were afraid that all tabloids will wrote that government is wasting money for luxuries. Every time when prime minister and president flow to the same place with different planes, we have seen headers: "20000 PLN wasted"*



*1 PLN = 0,35 USD



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