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Jzanes -> feedback on soviet forces (4/22/2010 4:46:53 PM)

Not sure if this is the right place to post this but I wanted to give the designers some feedback on the soviet forces. My opponent activated the soviets about 2 game months ago and a few issues have become apparent.

1. The japanese were able to sail up the Amur river without activating the russians.
2. The CD guns at the river mouth (Nikolaevsk) never fire at passing ships going into or out of the river.
3. the japanese seem to be able to completely pass thru the minefield at Nikolaevsk without any harm.
4. I have yet to see one of my many subs lurking in a river hex actually attack someone.
5. The CD guns at Mangan did fire when he landed at that base but they were way too powerful. Destroyer-Cruiser sized guns getting hundreds of hits on BBs and leaving them a ruin (maybe even sunk, you'll have to ask Rader about that...)
6. The russians are due to have 5 divisions withdrawn in early-late July but if you break them down into their components, the withdrawal date is moved back anywhere from a week to over a month.
7. The russians receive NO tank replacments after like 1/42 and NO new types of tanks until the T-34/85 comes along in May 1944. They are stuck using their T-26s and BT-7s until then and receive no replacements at all. I'd suggest adding the earlier T-34s and give the soviets some replacements of all models.
8. Similarly, they receive only 16 MIG-3s per month as fighter replacements until November 1943. Other than IL-2s they receive no bomber replacements or new models until Dec 1944(!). I'd suggest making some of the "modern" planes available closer to their historical dates of introduction and increasing the replacments rates of all models to a rate that will allow the russians to compete if attacked.

My sense is that the designers, set the replacments rates and arrival dates of new models of russian stuff based on the assumption that they would be left inactive until their historical attack on Manchuria in 1945. When the japanese attack earlier (in my case May 1942), the russians are left with nothing to fight with once they are attrited.



seydlitz_slith -> RE: feedback on soviet forces (4/23/2010 5:06:11 AM)

I have to agree with most of the points that you have listed. Those that I do not agree with are only because I have not ran into that situation yet (1,2,3,4).

I am playing Japan and during conversation with my opponent he has specifically mentioned issues 7 & 8. Even worse than an airframe shortage, he said that I ran him out of pilots in the pool.

I would also add that the Soviet biplane fighters are way too good against the Soviet planes. Early on, when he had good pilots, I lost quite a few experienced zeroes and oscars to I-153 biplanes.



jejo68 -> RE: feedback on soviet forces (4/23/2010 8:33:29 PM)

Im pretty sure soviet was busy on other more important fronts up til at least end of 43

As for subs in riverhexes. well why are you using them there in the first place. they have no where to operate effectively and should they run into a ship im sure they will be more worried about trying not to get rammed then shooting any torpedos.

1 and 2 are good points though



Sardaukar -> RE: feedback on soviet forces (4/24/2010 7:45:11 AM)


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ORIGINAL: jejo68

Im pretty sure soviet was busy on other more important fronts up til at least end of 43



You could also be pretty sure that things would have changed considerably if Japanese had invaded.



jejo68 -> RE: feedback on soviet forces (4/24/2010 8:40:05 AM)

well what would you give up. some ground in far off east or moscow.
The reality is that russia didnt have much to send to the east until at least after the troops who partook in kursk had been replenished.

Though I give you one thing, they would probably have sent their obsolete tanks out there when they got replaced by T34 on the east front.

EDIT: most likely they would also have send more pilots as reinforcement along with any spare planes they could scrape together. These would probably be not have been mig 3 though but more likely older planes



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