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Dan Verssen -> DVG NEWS! (5/13/2010 6:24:21 AM)
Final call for Guns Blazing pre-orders! We will be ending the pre-order discount very soon. Order now! If you want your name on the box, send in your permission: “I (YOUR NAME) give DVG permission to print my name on the Guns Blazing boxes.” http://www.dvg.com/.sc/ms/dd/ee/29/Down%20In%20Flames%20-%20Guns%20Blazing Remember, all Guns Blazing pre-orders get the 3 free promo aircraft cards! This is the only time they will be available. Next up on the front burner of the design table… Hornet Leader! http://www.dvg.com/.sc/ms/dd/ee/33/Hornet%20Leader%20-%20Carrier%20Air%20Operations www.dvg.com

Dan Verssen -> RE: DVG NEWS! (5/20/2010 2:14:47 PM)
GUNS BLAZING We are preparing the final files, and should have them done in a couple days. If you’d like to pre-order, and have your name printed on the boxes, pre-order in the next day or two. “I (YOUR NAME) give DVG permission to print my name on the Guns Blazing game boxes. This is also the time to update your credit card information in your Account Information. http://www.dvg.com/.sc/ms/dd/ee/29/Down%20In%20Flames%20-%20Guns%20Blazing HORNET LEADER Hornet Leader is on the front burner now and is looking great! We’ve posted a sample of the Iraq 1991 (Desert Storm) campaign sheet. http://www.dvg.com/.sc/ms/dd/ee/33/Hornet%20Leader%20-%20Carrier%20Air%20Operations NAPOLEON Wan is working on the map and counter artwork, so we’ll have samples of his work soon! http://www.dvg.com/.sc/ms/dd/ee/35/Field%20Commander%20Napoleon www.dvg.com

Dan Verssen -> RE: DVG NEWS! (6/1/2010 5:41:52 AM)
FIELD COMMANDER NAPOLEON We’ve been receiving a ton of emails regarding the counter and map artwork previously posted in the Napoleon page. The emails have been very nicely written, but they all end up asking, “So is that the real artwork? Because if it is, it doesn’t look so good.” Rest assured, the artwork up until now has been my playtest efforts. We have just updated the Napoleon page to include the REAL counter and map artwork by Wan, and it looks amazing! We are still offering the Deluxe MOUNTED Battle Display for everyone who pre-orders. People who pre-order will receive the standard cardboard sheet, as well as the deluxe mounted display. http://www.dvg.com/.sc/ms/dd/ee/35/Field%20Commander%20Napoleon HORNET LEADER The design is moving along very rapidly and we hope to send the game to the printer in July. We’ve added a “What’s New” page to the Hornet section of the main site index on the left. We hope that you’ve liked the previous Air Leader games, and Hornet is looking to be the best yet! The new Hornet started as a printed version of the Hornet Leader II Vassal/PDF games, but has since grown and taken on a greater depth of decision-making and game play variety. http://www.dvg.com/.sc/ms/dd/ee/33/Hornet%20Leader%20-%20Carrier%20Air%20Operations GUNS BLAZING All the printing details are getting resolved and we’ll be sending the files in a couple days. If you want to pre-order, this is your last chance to get the discount and the free promotional aircraft cards. We’ll be charging credit cards in a few days. Please make sure your credit card information in your account is up to date. If you pre-ordered with paypal, you’re all set, and don’t need to do anything. http://www.dvg.com/.sc/ms/dd/ee/29/Down%20In%20Flames%20-%20Guns%20Blazing www.dvg.com

Dan Verssen -> RE: DVG NEWS! (6/9/2010 5:00:27 PM)
BATTLE FOR STALINGRAD In honor of Germany’s invasion of Russia on June 22 during Operation Barbarossa, we’re announcing the Battle For Stalingrad. Check out our newest pre-order offering – a fun, fast-paced, battle for Stalingrad card game for 2 players! http://www.dvg.com/.sc/ms/dd/ee/36/Battle%20For%20Stalingrad GUNS BLAZING Is at the Printer and credit cards are charging. If you ordered with Paypal, you don’t need to do anything. If something goes wrong with your credit card order, you will receive an email from our automated system. http://www.dvg.com/.sc/ms/dd/ee/29/Down%20In%20Flames%20-%20Guns%20Blazing HORNET LEADER We’ve posted a first look at the rulebook! http://www.dvg.com/.sc/ms/dd/ee/33/Hornet%20Leader%20-%20Carrier%20Air%20Operations PRE-ORDER NUMBERS Updated! www.dvg.com

JudgeDredd -> RE: DVG NEWS! (6/9/2010 8:51:51 PM)
Dan (in case you pop back into this thread again)...I recently bought Phantom Leader and I have to congratulate you on a fantastic game. Well done.

MajFrankBurns -> RE: DVG NEWS! (6/9/2010 9:04:43 PM)
Dan when are you going to make a computer WWI air fight game?

Dan Verssen -> RE: DVG NEWS! (6/12/2010 6:05:12 AM)
JudgeDredd - Thank you very much! We are really happy with how it came out.

Dan Verssen -> RE: DVG NEWS! (6/12/2010 6:06:59 AM)
MajFrankBurns - It's possible. WWI isn't generally a very "commercial" era, but its dog fighting is the exception. I think a key aspect of the game would be the pilot personalties as much as the hardware.

Noypi53 -> RE: DVG NEWS! (6/12/2010 10:17:01 AM)
Dan - What doing computer versions around the Field commander Series? I have Alexander & it would be great as a computer version.

Dan Verssen -> RE: DVG NEWS! (6/22/2010 7:14:39 AM)
Noypi53, I have given it some thought, and I think they might do great, but I'm not sure they would have the depth needed for a computer game. Computer games tend to get played more often than the tabletop version, and they need more depth to hold a person's interest. Thoughts?

Dan Verssen -> RE: DVG NEWS! (6/22/2010 7:14:47 AM)
STALINGRAD We’ve added a couple more cards to the slideshow! First draft of the rules is on the site! http://www.dvg.com/.sc/ms/dd/ee/36/Battle%20For%20Stalingrad HORNET LEADER We’ve added an updated rulebook! A few graphics need to be replaced, but the text is looking good. http://www.dvg.com/.sc/ms/dd/ee/33/Hornet%20Leader%20-%20Carrier%20Air%20Operations www.dvg.com

PunkReaper -> RE: DVG NEWS! (6/22/2010 12:14:42 PM)
I have noticed that Hornet Leader has 84 out of 250 preorders before it goes to print. Being in the UK I haven't preordered and will buy it locally when it is released. Are you waiting on the preorders before it can be released?

JudgeDredd -> RE: DVG NEWS! (6/22/2010 12:39:13 PM)
I noticed that and cannot pre-order for the same reason...I'll get hit with VAT and delivery, so I haven't pre-ordered either. I will be getting it when it's released though and if they had a UK system, then I would definitely pre-order

jomni -> RE: DVG NEWS! (6/22/2010 1:40:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Punk Reaper I have noticed that Hornet Leader has 84 out of 250 preorders before it goes to print. Being in the UK I haven't preordered and will buy it locally when it is released. Are you waiting on the preorders before it can be released? Yup that's how it has been working for the previous games.

Dan Verssen -> RE: DVG NEWS! (6/30/2010 3:47:34 AM)
Punk Reaper, Yes, we need the pre-orders to pay the printer bill. The printer needs to be paid upfront. Once we have enough pre-orders to pay the bill, the game goes to the printer.

Dan Verssen -> RE: DVG NEWS! (6/30/2010 3:50:11 AM)
There isn't much we can do about VAT, but we have the mailing cost on the site reduced below the actual cost to absorb some of that for our customers. In addition, you wouldn't be paying sales tax, -AND- you get you name on the boxes. [:)]

Dan Verssen -> RE: DVG NEWS! (6/30/2010 3:50:20 AM)
HORNET LEADER New rules uploaded! - We still need to adjust the columns and layout, but things are looking good for text and art. If you see anything wrong, please let me know. http://www.dvg.com/.sc/ms/dd/ee/33/Hornet%20Leader%20-%20Carrier%20Air%20Operations GUNS BLAZING We’ll be receiving the sample games from the printer in a few days! We are still on schedule for an August ship date! PRE-ORDERS Updated pre-order numbers! www.dvg.com

MajFrankBurns -> RE: DVG NEWS! (6/30/2010 3:57:59 AM)
Wehre's my WWI computer airwar game Dan? [:D]

JudgeDredd -> RE: DVG NEWS! (6/30/2010 8:28:08 AM)
Dan Is there no way you could arrange pre-orders from your UK resellers? Like BoardGameExtras? After buying Phantom Leader, I would pre-order this in a heartbeat

E -> RE: DVG NEWS! (6/30/2010 11:54:28 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MajFrankBurns Wehre's my WWI computer airwar game Dan? [:D] http://www.dvg.com/.sc/ms/dd/ee/7/Down In Flames WWI

PunkReaper -> RE: DVG NEWS! (6/30/2010 4:32:05 PM)
quote: Is there no way you could arrange pre-orders from your UK resellers? Like BoardGameExtras? After buying Phantom Leader, I would pre-order this in a heartbeat If that was possible I would pre-order Hornet Leader and Field Commander: Napoleon

MajFrankBurns -> RE: DVG NEWS! (6/30/2010 10:33:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: E quote: ORIGINAL: MajFrankBurns Wehre's my WWI computer airwar game Dan? [:D] http://www.dvg.com/.sc/ms/dd/ee/7/Down In Flames WWI Um that's not quite a computer game with an AI an all that. Looks good though I would certainly buy it if it had an ai that was at least decent. I've always liked the drawings of the DVG games of air warfare.

E -> RE: DVG NEWS! (7/1/2010 12:45:16 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MajFrankBurns quote: ORIGINAL: E quote: ORIGINAL: MajFrankBurns Wehre's my WWI computer airwar game Dan? [:D] http://www.dvg.com/.sc/ms/dd/ee/7/Down In Flames WWI Um that's not quite a computer game with an AI an all that. You didn't ask for a computer game 'with an AI,' nor did you ask for 'an all that.' hehe/grin (and it is technically a computer game, albeit a computer adaptation of a game grin)

MajFrankBurns -> RE: DVG NEWS! (7/2/2010 2:15:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: E quote: ORIGINAL: MajFrankBurns quote: ORIGINAL: E quote: ORIGINAL: MajFrankBurns Wehre's my WWI computer airwar game Dan? [:D] http://www.dvg.com/.sc/ms/dd/ee/7/Down In Flames WWI Um that's not quite a computer game with an AI an all that. You didn't ask for a computer game 'with an AI,' nor did you ask for 'an all that.' hehe/grin (and it is technically a computer game, albeit a computer adaptation of a game grin) Sorry but anyone who is anyone knows if it's a computer game it "has to have an ai". Anything else is just a prop that uses a computer to calculate battle odds and outcomes like vassal does. That's not a computer "game".

wworld7 -> RE: DVG NEWS! (7/2/2010 4:07:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MajFrankBurns Sorry but anyone who is anyone knows if it's a computer game it "has to have an ai". Anything else is just a prop that uses a computer to calculate battle odds and outcomes like vassal does. That's not a computer "game". IMO, This is a very narrow view of the term "computer game". I would guess that only a minority of computer users would share such a limited view.

Dan Verssen -> RE: DVG NEWS! (7/14/2010 8:57:15 AM)
STALINGRAD New Cover! New cards added to the slideshow! Table layout added to illustrate card placement! http://www.dvg.com/.sc/ms/dd/ee/36/Battle%20For%20Stalingrad HORNET LEADER New Target cards added to slideshow! Updated rulebook! Preview of Iran 2014 Campaign Sheet! One month to going to the printer - start sending in your pre-order box names! “I (YOUR NAME) give DVG permission to print my name on the Hornet Leader boxes.” http://www.dvg.com/.sc/ms/dd/ee/33/Hornet%20Leader%20-%20Carrier%20Air%20Operations www.dvg.com

MajFrankBurns -> RE: DVG NEWS! (7/14/2010 1:07:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: flipperwasirish quote: ORIGINAL: MajFrankBurns Sorry but anyone who is anyone knows if it's a computer game it "has to have an ai". Anything else is just a prop that uses a computer to calculate battle odds and outcomes like vassal does. That's not a computer "game". IMO, This is a very narrow view of the term "computer game". that only a minority of computer users would share such a limited view. I would guess Naturally you are GUESSING, I'm not. [:-]

Barthheart -> RE: DVG NEWS! (7/14/2010 1:21:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MajFrankBurns Sorry but anyone who is anyone knows if it's a computer game it "has to have an ai". Anything else is just a prop that uses a computer to calculate battle odds and outcomes like vassal does. That's not a computer "game". Wow... nice attitude....[:'(] Also VASSAL does not calculate anything. You still have to do all the calculations yourself. It can do die rolls though.[8D] There are lots of computer games that actually do compute all the odds and take care of the all rules and such that have no AI and they are computer games.

MajFrankBurns -> RE: DVG NEWS! (7/14/2010 1:22:58 PM)
quote: There are lots of computer games that actually do compute all the odds and take care of the all rules and such that have no AI and they are computer games. Name them and by LOTS you better have 100 of them cause there are 10's of thousands of games with AI's. I also want LINKS to these socalled LOTS of computer games with no ai's that calculate odds blah blah. At any rate these are not GAMES they are UTILITIES and there's a big difference in a UTILITY and a GAME.

E -> RE: DVG NEWS! (7/14/2010 2:40:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MajFrankBurns Sorry but anyone who is anyone knows if it's a computer game it "has to have an ai". I knew what you wanted and posted a jest, based on the technicalities of the definition (note the "grin's"), but now you're just being silly. plonk quote: ORIGINAL: Barthheart Also VASSAL does not calculate anything. You still have to do all the calculations yourself. VASSAL _can_ do calculations. But more importantly and/or succinctly, they are limited, at best. However, you should see what you can do with dynamic properties and an auto-end-of-movement-key. You can do a lot just with those two capabilities. For instance, several years ago I had a Firepower module auto-calculating and displaying all height-units for the player(s). Not exciting, but technically a calculation. grin

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