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bigred -> RE: Battle of Kirikawa (9/3/2011 10:47:09 PM)
8. my ftr cover btoke down and I expected worse. lost 3 apa and one Lst. If Tanaka had broken thru then the allied invasion fleets would be gone. I was surprised FatR came out but I did know he was in range...kirakiwa is a level one AF after one turn on the beach. Kira CAP Saved my ass. [image]local://upfiles/27655/CB2A1323633B4463B959F095314AD65B.jpg[/image]

bigred -> RE: Battle of Kirikawa (9/3/2011 10:50:32 PM)
9. FatR sweeped me before the next attack w/ the betties.. [image]local://upfiles/27655/069439C7251E48EFA6D0A4C084F400B8.jpg[/image]

bigred -> RE: Battle of Kirikawa (9/3/2011 10:53:47 PM)
I suspect FatR will have to go to Rabaul to resupply his BBs because I was bombing his little ports to drive off the AKEs. So I should have free naval movement around Tulagi now . So he either brings down another BB TF or loses naval control of this area...

bigred -> RE: Battle of Kirikawa (9/4/2011 12:23:32 AM)
I note post 476. looks like the remaints of the Kongo TF which ran into my Arliegh Burke DD TF...That was a hell of a running gun battle. Dont know yet if Burke was killed.... Also I am looking at the threads and followed the suggestion of using one CL w/ 3/4 DDs. Not sure it worked in this event as moonlight was 97%. So I will be asking FatR what he thinks in a private email.

GreyJoy -> RE: Battle of Kirikawa (9/4/2011 12:30:22 AM)
wow...it would be interesting to see the combat report of those naval battles...

bigred -> RE: Battle of Kirikawa (9/4/2011 2:17:06 AM)
I will get CRs for u GJ and probably post onto the above individual screen prints. On further review it seems I was dealing w/ 2 IJN TFs instead of 2....man I would have been in big TROUBLE if they had broke thru to the Amphibs... For the record, I had 4 amphib TFs in the hex. TF125 ordered to Kira and the other 3 ordered to follow tf125. The first tf did unload at Kira and then the APAs got sunk by the betties I guess because they unloaded. TF125 Tf had an AM and a PG which where not hit. The other 3 TFs did not unload because they followed TF125. So they where saved because they where not unloading when the betties hit.... I had to have everyone follow TF125 to protect from the VT which did attack 2 turns in a row. I dont see how to get all the TFs to unload in the hex at the same time unless the turn before arrival at destination I order all amphib TFs to an objective hex. I could put everything into one Big TF. But that would have been bad in this senario.

bigred -> RE: Battle of Kirikawa (9/4/2011 2:35:03 AM)
This was my low nav counter attack that happens whenever FatR comes south of Lunga.... Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 5,100 feet. Estimated time to target is 13 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M4 Zero x 7 Allied aircraft Mitchell II x 6 B-24D Liberator x 1 F4U-1 Corsair x 3 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses Mitchell II: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged Japanese Ships DD Kikuzuki, Bomb hits 1, on fire CL Yubari, heavy damage Aircraft Attacking: 1 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 100 feet * Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb 5 x Mitchell II bombing from 100 feet Naval Attack: 6 x 500 lb SAP Bomb CAP engaged: 582 Ku S-1 with A6M4 Zero (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (20 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 7 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 36775 Raid is overhead

bigred -> RE: Horn Island (9/4/2011 11:21:53 PM)
43-5-18: today we invaded Horn Island w/ one AUS inf bde and one AUS AR regiment. Alittle more than what I expected-a level five fort w/ 2xSNLF units, one AABN and a base force. I made a 1=2 shock attack..I figured I might not go thru a shock attack if Horn Island holds 60000 troops. Good news is the Jap Fleet is very busy in Lunga area. I killed 550 japs for 150 of mine. [image]local://upfiles/27655/CABAEF191218493A9A3D2623DA033ECB.jpg[/image]

Itdepends -> RE: Horn Island (9/5/2011 11:41:48 AM)
I notice your bombers are going in and bombing on naval attack at 100ft. When I have mine training at 100ft the straf skill goes up. Did you train yours at 1000ft for lowN or 100ft?

bigred -> RE: Battle of Kirikawa (9/5/2011 10:33:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bigred I note post 476. looks like the remaints of the Kongo TF which ran into my Arliegh Burke DD TF...That was a hell of a running gun battle. Dont know yet if Burke was killed.... Also I am looking at the threads and followed the suggestion of using one CL w/ 3/4 DDs. Not sure it worked in this event as moonlight was 97%. So I will be asking FatR what he thinks in a private email. From private email: quote: FatR: As about my opinion on the optimal TF size, you can deduce it from what TF I'm actually using. I feel that combat results validate it. Your DDs kicked a lot of ass, but I think that's primarily the function of their superior guns.

bigred -> RE: Horn Island (9/5/2011 10:35:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Itdepends I notice your bombers are going in and bombing on naval attack at 100ft. When I have mine training at 100ft the straf skill goes up. Did you train yours at 1000ft for lowN or 100ft? I trained at 100 ft lowN. Do U think it better to train at 1000ft? And please define "straf/kill"?

bigred -> RE: Horn Island (9/5/2011 11:27:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bigred quote: ORIGINAL: Itdepends I notice your bombers are going in and bombing on naval attack at 100ft. When I have mine training at 100ft the straf skill goes up. Did you train yours at 1000ft for lowN or 100ft? I trained at 100 ft lowN. Do U think it better to train at 1000ft? And please define "straf/kill"? Just looked at current lowN training at 100ft. Seems my level bomber pilots ARE training in Straif instead of LowN...I am using most current beta. In 1106i these pilots trained as lowN. [image]local://upfiles/27655/2D0B3B2F499547A18C03377BC1B77AB7.jpg[/image]

witpqs -> RE: Horn Island (9/6/2011 2:20:24 AM)
In the Beta 100ft means train strafe, 1000ft means train low(whatever).

bigred -> RE: Horn Island (9/7/2011 2:42:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: witpqs In the Beta 100ft means train strafe, 1000ft means train low(whatever). Thanks witpqs.

bigred -> RE: North of Lunga (9/8/2011 3:18:16 AM)
It is fun to see the IJN in full retreat in the slot w/followup by PT boats. [image]local://upfiles/27655/9B81353ECE3347DF993822CDF4BC6979.jpg[/image]

bigred -> RE: Central China (9/9/2011 1:48:42 AM)
I am starting to wonder What FatR is trying to do in China. This looks like a mistake. Japanese assault odds: 1 to 99 (fort level 6) Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), preparation(-) Attacker: shock(+) Japanese ground losses: 7465 casualties reported Squads: 302 destroyed, 279 disabled Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 203 disabled Engineers: 45 destroyed, 52 disabled Guns lost 114 (32 destroyed, 82 disabled) Vehicles lost 34 (2 destroyed, 32 disabled) Allied ground losses: 154 casualties reported Squads: 11 destroyed, 2 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled [image]local://upfiles/27655/658BA5B8A85C48619405DEDDA55A5B95.jpg[/image]

bigred -> RE: Central China (9/9/2011 1:50:40 AM)
At horn island we make a para drop w/ground attack. I am surprised FatR has done nothing to help this situation...My armor is eating him alive w/ no AR casualties. Ground combat at Horn Island (91,128) Allied Shock attack Attacking force 4944 troops, 64 guns, 173 vehicles, Assault Value = 221 Defending force 2912 troops, 36 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 75 Allied adjusted assault: 96 Japanese adjusted defense: 28 Allied assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 5) Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 4 Combat modifiers Defender: forts(+), disruption(-), experience(-), supply(-) Attacker: shock(+) Japanese ground losses: 260 casualties reported Squads: 5 destroyed, 16 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled Guns lost 18 (2 destroyed, 16 disabled) Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled) Allied ground losses: 129 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 16 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Assaulting units: Port Moresby Brigade 1st Australian Para Bn /1 2/8th Armoured Regiment II Aus Corps Engr Bn /4 2/16th Field Regiment Bowen RAN Base Force Defending units: 82nd Naval Guard Unit 46th Naval Guard Unit 47th Field AA Battalion 42nd Road Const Co 8th JAAF AF Bn [image]local://upfiles/27655/0B34528B705C46E6929387D7E321C985.jpg[/image]

janh -> RE: Central China (9/9/2011 10:38:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bigred I am starting to wonder What FatR is trying to do in China. This looks like a mistake. Japanese assault odds: 1 to 99 (fort level 6) Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), preparation(-) Attacker: shock(+) Japanese ground losses: 7465 casualties reported Squads: 302 destroyed, 279 disabled Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 203 disabled Engineers: 45 destroyed, 52 disabled Guns lost 114 (32 destroyed, 82 disabled) Vehicles lost 34 (2 destroyed, 32 disabled) Allied ground losses: 154 casualties reported Squads: 11 destroyed, 2 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Wow, that is a totally weird result. Something seems off with that. Look at the AV both sides brought to the party. Could you post the rest of the details, AV, supply etc.?

bigred -> RE: Central China (9/9/2011 1:40:52 PM)
As requested..Looks as if only maybe 2 divisions attacked. Ground combat at Chungking (76,45) Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 176270 troops, 2505 guns, 1300 vehicles, Assault Value = 8002 Defending force 188991 troops, 1622 guns, 50 vehicles, Assault Value = 6109 Japanese adjusted assault: 0 Allied adjusted defense: 11295 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 99 (fort level 6) Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), preparation(-) Attacker: shock(+) Japanese ground losses: 7465 casualties reported Squads: 302 destroyed, 279 disabled Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 203 disabled Engineers: 45 destroyed, 52 disabled Guns lost 114 (32 destroyed, 82 disabled) Vehicles lost 34 (2 destroyed, 32 disabled) Allied ground losses: 154 casualties reported Squads: 11 destroyed, 2 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Assaulting units: 3rd Division 40th Division 116th Division 26th Division 110th Division 32nd Division 12th Division 33rd Division 41st Division 22nd Division 36th Division 17th Division 39th Division 19th Division 10th Division 9th Division 35th Division 6th Division 55th Division Imperial Guards/C Division Kwantung Army 11th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion North China Area Army 9th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 11th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion 13th Mortar Battalion 15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 6th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion 15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment Botanko Hvy Gun Regiment 6th Army 6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 21st Mortar Battalion 7th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion 20th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 22nd Medium Field Artillery Regiment 4th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 2nd Medium Field Artillery Regiment 2nd Hvy.Artillery Regiment 1st Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion RGC Army Mongol Garrison Army Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment 5th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 5th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion 13th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 13th Army 4th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment 4th Army 18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 3rd Army 10th Mortar Battalion 10th Mortar Battalion 4th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 7th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 2nd Mortar Battalion 2nd Field Artillery Regiment 3rd Hvy.Artillery Regiment 5th Army 3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment 14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment 15th Medium Field Artillery Regiment NCPC Army 14th Army 2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion China Expeditionary Army 4th Mortar Battalion 2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 8th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 12th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 22nd Ind.Mtn Gun Battalion 10th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 17th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 12th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 12th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion 13th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion Defending units: 14th Chinese Corps 41st Chinese Corps 6th Chinese Corps 5th Construction Regiment 5th Chinese Cavalry Corps 100th Chinese Corps 83rd Chinese Corps 76th Chinese Corps 29th Chinese Corps 11th Construction Regiment 6th Construction Regiment 36th Chinese Corps 75th Chinese Corps 57th Chinese Corps 39th Chinese Corps 3rd New Chinese Corps 93rd Chinese Corps 7th Construction Regiment 30th Chinese Corps 78th Chinese Corps 14th Construction Regiment 7th New Chinese Corps 23rd Chinese Corps 45th Chinese Corps 90th Chinese Corps 32nd Chinese Corps 3rd Prov Chinese Corps 18th Chinese Corps 73rd Chinese Corps 303rd Regiment 77th Chinese Corps 87th Chinese Corps 97th Chinese Corps 47th Chinese Corps 60th Chinese/B Corps 57th AT Gun Regiment 20th Group Army 39th Group Army 25th Group Army 10th Construction Regiment 13th Construction Regiment 14th Group Army 21st Group Army 4th Heavy Mortar Regiment 6th War Area 32nd Group Army 2nd Group Army 16th Construction Regiment 20th Artillery Regiment Y' Force 23rd Group Army 19th Group Army 22nd Artillery Regiment 1st War Area 8th Construction Regiment 30th Group Army 20th Chinese Base Force Lusu War Area 26th Group Army CAF HQ 38th Group Army 10th Group Army 18th Chinese Base Force 7th Group Army 7th Chinese Base Force China Command 4th Construction Regiment 15th Group Army 17th Construction Regiment Fourteenth USAAF 9th War Area 29th Group Army 1st Artillery Regiment 35th Chinese Corps 4th Group Army 49th AA Regiment 56th AT Gun Regiment --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

bigred -> RE: Mistake tulagi (9/9/2011 1:44:08 PM)
Before I look at the game turn looks like a Bombardment TF was ordered to stay in hex at tulagi by accident. Lucky for me no damage after 2 phases of betties sorties. My turn crashed during production and I had to stay up late to get it out(made me sleepy and tired). Combined w/ IJN Subs attacking this tf on the move slowed its arrival to daylight and lucky the betties are tired from their bombing of Kira. Anyway the intent was to bombard tulagi, separate the fighters from the bombers and kill the betties over Kira. Plan did work but i did not put enought fighters over kira to realy screw up FatR. [image]local://upfiles/27655/FB694F9650B94C95AEBAC282B3160A49.jpg[/image] Naval bombardment of Tulagi at 114,137 Japanese aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses A6M4 Zero: 46 damaged A6M4 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 66 damaged Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed on ground A6M5b Zero: 47 damaged A6M5b Zero: 1 destroyed on ground J1N1-S Irving: 1 damaged E13A1 Jake: 1 damaged Allied Ships CA Quincy CL Cleveland DD Kane DD Kortenaer DD Schley DD Allen DD Waller Japanese ground losses: 96 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 18 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled Airbase hits 61 Airbase supply hits 15 Runway hits 118 Port hits 51 Port fuel hits 3 Port supply hits 1 CA Quincy firing at Tulagi CL Cleveland firing at Tulagi DD Kane firing at Tulagi DD Kortenaer firing at Tulagi DD Schley firing at Tulagi DD Allen firing at Tulagi

bigred -> RE: Mistake tulagi (9/9/2011 1:55:30 PM)
In other news, horn island fell with a simple delibrerate attack and no gunfire or bomber support . I was pleasantly surprised w/ the result. [image]local://upfiles/27655/74607CEFA4CA4EAB91189DF8A0756FB2.jpg[/image] Ground combat at Horn Island (91,128) Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 4954 troops, 64 guns, 173 vehicles, Assault Value = 210 Defending force 2144 troops, 26 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 47 Allied adjusted assault: 108 Japanese adjusted defense: 13 Allied assault odds: 8 to 1 (fort level 4) Allied forces CAPTURE Horn Island !!! Combat modifiers Defender: forts(+), disruption(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 348 casualties reported Squads: 7 destroyed, 18 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 18 (18 destroyed, 0 disabled) Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled) Allied ground losses: 108 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Assaulting units: 1st Australian Para Bn /1 Port Moresby Brigade 2/8th Armoured Regiment II Aus Corps Engr Bn /4 2/16th Field Regiment Bowen RAN Base Force Defending units: 46th Naval Guard Unit 42nd Road Const Co 8th JAAF AF Bn 82nd Naval Guard Unit 47th Fld AA Bn /1

bigred -> RE: A win for the good guys (9/9/2011 3:04:47 PM)
Chalk up an operational victory for the allies. The IJN soloman battle line had been on resupply to milne bay when he spotted a large fleet headed toward Lunga. FatR did react and we did have a sea battle at Kira with my intent to pull him away from the Horn Island attack. Now I have horn island and kirakawa. I am surprised FatR has not committed the CV TFs..I have a counter plan for that also. Turns are getting long and slow. Allies have alot of stuff.

bigred -> RE: 43may28 (9/18/2011 12:55:18 AM)
Burma. Nips have 3 level seven AFs in the irrawaddy valley. Magwa has alot of 88mmAAunits but the other two seem less defended from the air. Starting with a full moon I have tried to disrupt operation on the weaker defended AFs w/ constant night bombing after an initial daylight b24 attack w/60 planes. Recon shows the effect. I have burned some supply in this effort. I hope to have caused the japs to expend some supply to rebuild. Hopefully my recon reports indicate a possible higher level of damage at these bases. My objective is to eventually cause Fatr to w/draw his planes(and units) from magwe. I suspect an armored uDiv at mandaley, a inf brigade at metelika, Inf Div+ at magwe. Tracker intel reports 5 divisions prepped for Lil Andy. if I make a push into Burma I suspect these units will be sent to reinforce by sea from singers. [image]local://upfiles/27655/2D54FA0312044E6EBDA77944961984F0.jpg[/image]

bigred -> RE: 43may28 (9/18/2011 1:20:20 AM)
Over kirikiwa: The RA70 modified a6m4 stands toe to toe w/ the F6F. FatR has used betties in AF attack to suppess kiri where I have to fly LRCAP from ndendi from time to take to cause casualities. I placed 80 f6fs on LRcap and 8 participated in the air battle. I have used over 100000tons of fuel in the SOPAC so i wonder the effect on FatR of having to run his battle fleet all the time. [image]local://upfiles/27655/33CFC006752A40E48915C012C2FA29D7.jpg[/image]

bigred -> RE: 43may28 (9/18/2011 1:52:48 AM)
Sopac: Lunga has a division. i did not recon lunga today. FatR seems to make it easy for me to go for PM. I note a level 6 AF at milni and a level 7 AF at lea. [image]local://upfiles/27655/B45EF4F4545B4CFC849CD80916FA3ABC.jpg[/image]

bigred -> RE: 43jun5 (9/25/2011 6:52:15 PM)
Finally got something of what I would expect in air casualties at this date in the game. kill ratio 6.5 to 1 over tulagi w/ an 80 plane marine f6f sweep. [image]local://upfiles/27655/492BA8666B234D9E9056BDDBC91B7DBF.jpg[/image]

bigred -> RE: 43jun6 (9/27/2011 4:46:16 AM)
FatR has begun the reduction of Lil andaman . Level 7 to level 6. ...With a 30 day bombardment, the KB participating in ground support and w/ 2 Bombardment TFs. Ground combat at Little Andaman (44,59) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 76188 troops, 802 guns, 333 vehicles, Assault Value = 2738 Defending force 45946 troops, 937 guns, 692 vehicles, Assault Value = 1196 Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 6 Japanese adjusted assault: 5095 Allied adjusted defense: 671 Japanese assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 6) Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 6 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), disruption(-), experience(-) supply(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 4707 casualties reported Squads: 9 destroyed, 381 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 29 disabled Engineers: 30 destroyed, 101 disabled Guns lost 39 (8 destroyed, 31 disabled) Units destroyed 1 Allied ground losses: 1122 casualties reported Squads: 3 destroyed, 65 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 37 disabled Engineers: 4 destroyed, 33 disabled Guns lost 25 (1 destroyed, 24 disabled) [image]local://upfiles/27655/0E14506CEF234A5E9965448A5041D59B.jpg[/image]

bigred -> RE: 43jun6 (9/27/2011 4:51:04 AM)
In Western China I seem to have caught some Jap armor unsupported. Ground combat at 81,14 (near Urumchi) Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 17286 troops, 78 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 747 Defending force 1083 troops, 0 guns, 169 vehicles, Assault Value = 90 Allied adjusted assault: 184 Japanese adjusted defense: 133 Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), fatigue(-), supply(-) Attacker: leaders(+), supply(-) Japanese ground losses: Vehicles lost 16 (1 destroyed, 15 disabled) Allied ground losses: 19 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled [image]local://upfiles/27655/ECA41B07C09B4D1CA6C7C6AF35CBEF42.jpg[/image]

bigred -> RE: 43jun6 (9/27/2011 4:53:35 AM)
I was surprised to see the KB show up at Andaman. [image]local://upfiles/27655/B6539867D0A740019DF76A3846437116.jpg[/image]

bigred -> RE: 43jun6 (9/27/2011 4:55:13 AM)
China: I hope China expeditionary force is becoming a supply problem. 25% understrenght. [image]local://upfiles/27655/327786286F2B408CB0C987F1E922B521.jpg[/image]

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