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Historiker -> Museum recomendations? (7/19/2010 4:46:08 PM)

I'm going to be 4 weeks in the states and want to visit some museums. Can anyone recommend military museums in the US?



USSAmerica -> RE: Museum recomendations? (7/19/2010 5:04:35 PM)

USS North Carolina, in Wilmington, NC.  [;)]



awadley -> RE: Museum recomendations? (7/19/2010 5:19:36 PM)

US Marine Corps Museum, Quantico, VA

Just south of Washington DC



lazydawg -> RE: Museum recomendations? (7/19/2010 5:29:25 PM)

The National Air & Space Museum annex at Dulles Airport in the Washington D.C. area is also worth a visit. It's not a military museum; however, it has a lot of warbirds on display.
Here is their website:

http://www.nasm.si.edu/museum/udvarhazy/



awadley -> RE: Museum recomendations? (7/19/2010 5:34:39 PM)

US Air Force Museum at Dayton, Ohio
I think the largest WWII aircraft display



USSAmerica -> RE: Museum recomendations? (7/19/2010 5:46:44 PM)

My favorite, Naval Aviation Museum at Naval Air Station, Pensacola.  [:)]

Historiker, it might help us make recommendations if you tell us what part of the country you will be in for most of the trip.



ckk -> RE: Museum recomendations? (7/19/2010 5:59:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: USS America

My favorite, Naval Aviation Museum at Naval Air Station, Pensacola.  [:)]

Historiker, it might help us make recommendations if you tell us what part of the country you will be in for most of the trip.


And if you go at the right time, usually Tuesday and Weds, you can see the Blue Angels practice[;)]



bspeer -> RE: Museum recomendations? (7/19/2010 6:07:48 PM)

National WWII Museum-New Orleans-no doubt about it!

WWII Museum



Historiker -> RE: Museum recomendations? (7/19/2010 7:46:21 PM)

She was already on my list... [;)]
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ORIGINAL: USS America

USS North Carolina, in Wilmington, NC.  [;)]



Historiker -> RE: Museum recomendations? (7/19/2010 7:48:24 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: USS America

My favorite, Naval Aviation Museum at Naval Air Station, Pensacola.  [:)]

Historiker, it might help us make recommendations if you tell us what part of the country you will be in for most of the trip.


I guess mainly the east coast, but I want to see USS Texas, too. It also depends on the museums. I'm a huge tank enthusiast, and if the best tank display is in the west, I might also turn there...



USSAmerica -> RE: Museum recomendations? (7/19/2010 7:50:48 PM)

Ok, one of you US Army pukes needs to pipe up, but there MUST be a good tank museum at Fort Knox, Kentucky.  [:)]



tc464 -> RE: Museum recomendations? (7/19/2010 7:56:46 PM)

The Ordnance Museum at Aberdeen Proving Ground, MD. It's right outside Baltimore.
http://www.goordnance.apg.army.mil/sitefiles/OrdnanceMuseum.htm



JWE -> RE: Museum recomendations? (7/19/2010 8:02:20 PM)

Torsten, It's just what like Mike says, Bro; gotta say where you are going to be. This place is frikkin huge.

If I may - suggest you hang in the East Coast metroplex. I might get a sweet (and much cheaper) hotel on the Maryland shore. Totally convenient to everything but oh, so much more picturesque, and the food !! Crabs, and pone, and oysters, it will turn your North German butt Bavarian.

It's also central to perhaps 99% of what you may wish to see. That region contains those places that define our history. From there, you may easily reach Yorktown, Monmouth, Mannassas, Chancellorsville, Gettysburg, and yes, Spotsylvania, Cold Harbor, Petersburg and Appomatox. An intellectual feast.

For War-II stuff, I might suggest the journey begin at the Smithsonian in DC. After that, there are literally pooploads of places within an hours drive. There's Carlisle Barracks in Pennsylvania (bei Gettysburg) that has a library. And it has librarians, any one of which I would put up against a thousand whining AE soldiers.

And when that's done, it's time to visit Mike in NC, and put it all in context. 'Awadley' kinda has the right of it, because much of the history is captured by the branches and units that took part. US Military bases are indeed open to visitors, and often have interesting stuff that ain't in the official ayllabus. That area was a nexus, but believe me, they will let you in and they will help all they can.

If I may - suggest you screw the stupid big tourist hotels. Better beds, better food, better prices, better ambience, where real people live. Talk to brother Mike. In any case, hope you have a happy visit to my country.

Your friend, John



topeverest -> RE: Museum recomendations? (7/19/2010 8:12:34 PM)

Here are a few army/marines and airforce items...

1. +1 on US Marine Corps Museum, Quantico, VA
2. If you are in Pennsylvania, head out to Gettysburg military park. Its about 90 minutes north of Baltimore. Other major battleparks of American Civil war in that area include Chancellorsville / Spotslvania / Fredericksburg, Bull run 1&2, Cold Harbor, Petersburg, Harpers Ferry (has living history), The 7 days battles (seperate parks), and Antietam (Sharpsburg)
3. Fort McHenry, baltimore harbor, MD (War of 1812)
4. Army ordinance museum Aberdeen Prooving Grounds, MD
5. Dover, delaware AFB Aircraft Museum.
6. Warner Robbins AFB Aircraft Museum, Near Macon Georgia.
7. Ground Zero sept 11 New York City
8. Battle of Little Big Horn (Custer National Park) - small battle, big impact on American War Psyche. Southern Montana.
9. Battle of San Jacinto (texas war of independence 1836) SE Texas. Can see the Alamo too if you are in the general area, which is small but interesting. The Alamo Again a small battle high in the American War Psyche.
10. Flying leatherneck museum, San Diego CA





dukewacoan -> RE: Museum recomendations? (7/19/2010 8:13:37 PM)

Nimitz Museum in Fredericksburg, TX is a two day affair. Basically the national Pacific War museum. Very impassive.

There is also a WWII museum at Ft Hood, TX. Battleship Texas in Houston and USS Lexington in Corpus are also good.

D-Day Museum is good as well.



Historiker -> RE: Museum recomendations? (7/19/2010 9:04:27 PM)

Hey John,

sounds nice, and I didn't plan to do the typical tourist style - or would a tourist visit such places? [;)]
I guess I gotta make a good plan to see as much as possible without being overwhelmed and thus not being able to enjoy. What would you recommend for travel? Flights, rail, car, motorcycle, cycle ([;)])?
With that plan, I might get hard to visit you in California, but I'm prepared to fly to Tahiti in some years [;)]

Thank you all for the recommendations, I really gotta start planning... :)
Is there any big event I have to see between mid august and mid september at the east coast?



Historiker -> RE: Museum recomendations? (7/19/2010 9:07:19 PM)

Do we have any USNA teacher here in the forum? I'd love to visit that place, too...



Q-Ball -> RE: Museum recomendations? (7/19/2010 9:33:12 PM)

If you make it to Chicago, check out the U-505, the only Type IX U-Boat still in existence. The tour takes you through a fully-restored interior. It's at the Museum of Science and Industry.



JWE -> RE: Museum recomendations? (7/19/2010 9:35:45 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Historiker
Hey John,

sounds nice, and I didn't plan to do the typical tourist style - or would a tourist visit such places? [;)]
I guess I gotta make a good plan to see as much as possible without being overwhelmed and thus not being able to enjoy. What would you recommend for travel? Flights, rail, car, motorcycle, cycle ([;)])?
With that plan, I might get hard to visit you in California, but I'm prepared to fly to Tahiti in some years [;)]

Thank you all for the recommendations, I really gotta start planning... :)
Is there any big event I have to see between mid august and mid september at the east coast?

Four weeks isn't enough to really do even the East Coast. Cali is another trip entirely. A different country, almost. I would recommend a car, and rail here and there. Brother Mike would be most helpful, here. Definitely make a plan. Forget the tourist doo doo, you will find you can easily go to places you never thought possible.

Do the Eastern shore. I really think you will like it.

Ciao. John



witpqs -> RE: Museum recomendations? (7/19/2010 10:02:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: JWE

Cali is another trip entirely. A different country, almost.


"almost"??? [:'(]

[;)]



Bullwinkle58 -> RE: Museum recomendations? (7/20/2010 2:22:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: JWE

Torsten, It's just what like Mike says, Bro; gotta say where you are going to be. This place is frikkin huge.



I've had that talk with European on-line friends before. I tell them to consider the distance from Lisbon to Moscow. That distance, leaving New York City for LA, gets you just past the Rockies, about 800 miles still to go to LA.

I think the old West Germany was about the size of Oregon, and it's not a really big state.



Mynok -> RE: Museum recomendations? (7/20/2010 2:59:29 AM)


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ORIGINAL: JWE
And when that's done, it's time to visit Mike in NC, and put it all in context. 'Awadley' kinda has the right of it, because much of the history is captured by the branches and units that took part. US Military bases are indeed open to visitors, and often have interesting stuff that ain't in the official ayllabus. That area was a nexus, but believe me, they will let you in and they will help all they can.


Both Mike's in NC, as I'm down here too and a mere 40 minutes from USS America. We'll treat you right and introduce you to all kinds of good beer and good food. You'll just have to accept the fact that we have more mosquitoes than Yankees (and that's saying something, believe me) and humidity that will have your shoes sloshing and your face melting.

But it's all good when you see those turbines in the USS NC.



vettim89 -> RE: Museum recomendations? (7/20/2010 4:10:13 AM)

Have to agree with those who are suggesting planning. I was thinking about this and thought about what would be unique to the States. Thinking about things you might have a hard time finding elsewhere

Just a suggested iternary where you might get the most bang for your buck as far as travel.

From Boston

1. USS Constitution (shame on you all for not mentioning it)
2. USS Massachusettes
3. Mystic Sea Port
4. USS Intrepid in NY harbor
5. Ground Zero
6. Valley Forge
7. Washington DC - you could spend your whole time within 150 km of this central point

Smithsonian, Aberdeen, Dozens of ACW Battlesites (Gettysburg, Antietam, etc), Ft McHenry, USNA, and all the rest mentioned here

8. Norfolk, VA - USS Wisconsin here plus a boat tour of the naval base, Cheasapeak Bay Bridge/Tunnel, Eastern shore, etc

There are a lot of other good museums scattered across the country but you will not get the concentration you will in that small space anywhere else

The USAF Museum in Dayton is worth the trip. Yes, there is an Armor Museum at Ft. Knox which is only about a four hour drive from Dayton. U-505 is VERY cool. There is a USN sub in Pittsburg that was used for intel gathering in the cold war - it is in its cold war configuration as a museum but still cool (still has the sub smell no matter how hard they tried to clean it up)

Lastly a non-military stop would be the Kennedy Space Center in Florida.



bush -> RE: Museum recomendations? (7/20/2010 4:16:21 AM)

I am in California and it is quite different here. Can't say I am really a fan.

However, the Midway is now in San Diego and I spent an entire day aboard her. It was great and the docents are very nice as well.



bush -> RE: Museum recomendations? (7/20/2010 4:18:12 AM)

Also, not exactly a museum but the Gettysburg battlefield is well kept.



RUDOLF -> RE: Museum recomendations? (7/20/2010 4:25:23 AM)

Does it cost money to visit museums in the US?



The Gnome -> RE: Museum recomendations? (7/20/2010 4:48:14 AM)


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ORIGINAL: RUDOLF

Does it cost money to visit museums in the US?


It depends on the museum, usually there is some small fee involved.



The Gnome -> RE: Museum recomendations? (7/20/2010 4:54:20 AM)

Oh, and if you're in Philadelphia, there are some nice naval ships to visit:

1) The battleship USS New Jersey (just across the river in New Jersey)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_New_Jersey_(BB-62)

2) The USS Olympia, oldest steel ship still afloat, and flagship of the Great White Fleet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Olympia_(C-6)

3) USS Becuna a Balao class SS.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Becuna_(SS-319)

Plus Philadelphia has a lot of historical sites revolving around the Revolutionary War period.



racndoc -> RE: Museum recomendations? (7/20/2010 4:54:33 AM)

If you make it out to the wesy coast, I want to put a 2nd on the USS Midway Aircraft Carrier Museum in San Diego. Rent a power boat on the bay and you can see the sub base as well as other carriers and surface ships. When I visited last summer there were 3 CVs in San Diego Bay.

If you make it out to Oahu in Hawaii I recommend the US Army WWII in the Pacific Museum at Fort de Russy, Battery Randolph in Waikiki....covers the entire Army experience in Hawaii and the rest of the Pacific but focuses on the Coastal defense guns at battery Randolph and other CD forts on the south shore of Oahu....pretty cool walking thru the reinforced concrete corridors of a CD fort.....ammo and powder magazines, hoists, 12" gun emplacements, etc.

And 15 minutes away is Pearl Harbor where you can see the new air museum on Ford Island plus BB Arizona Memorial and BB Missouri....advertised as both the beginning and end of WWII in one visit. And there is a Gato class sub to visit there also.



CaptBeefheart -> RE: Museum recomendations? (7/20/2010 6:31:50 AM)

Lots of good recommendations in the East and here are some Western ideas: Whenever I find myself on I-10 between LA and Phoenix I like stopping at the Patton Museum. From Google I see the armor museum in Ft. Knox is also called the Patton Museum, which makes sense. Also, if you like airplanes there are some great museums in CA and AZ. The Palm Springs Air Museum has some great WWII warbirds. Also, Pima Air Museum near Tucson, Arizona is great and a lot more compact than the boneyard at Davis-Monthan Air Force Base, which probably has more airplanes parked in the desert than are operational in the world's air forces.

Last time I was in the States I was fortunate to hit up the Dulles Airport Air & Space Museum for the first time, which is a must see if you like airplanes at all and are in the Washington, DC area. Anyway, have a good trip. I'd love to have four free weeks in the U.S.

Edit: I once had some Swedish buddies who bought a car in New York for $500 and sold it in California for probably not much less a couple of months later. Not a bad way to see the place and cheap.

Cheers,
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