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zon -> New skins (8/3/2010 7:29:13 AM)

What's a new CC release without a vehicle mod...

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zon -> RE: New skins (8/3/2010 7:32:54 AM)

Graphics are based on some MG vehicles I did eons ago for a dead mod, rendered in 3D and then photoshopped.

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zon -> RE: New skins (8/3/2010 7:34:51 AM)

Coming soon, all going well




D.Ilse -> RE: New skins (8/3/2010 7:41:51 AM)

who used the 234/3?

noone in MG afaik.




Andrew Williams -> RE: New skins (8/3/2010 7:57:26 AM)

looking great zon




zon -> RE: New skins (8/3/2010 8:01:44 AM)

I'm just intending to replace what's in the game now. But here is a reference from "German Armored Units at Arnhem, September 1944" from Concord Publications.

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Southernland -> RE: New skins (8/3/2010 9:18:57 AM)

nice




Manu -> RE: New skins (8/3/2010 11:24:57 AM)

which scale do you use for the vehicles? Looking great!




D.Ilse -> RE: New skins (8/3/2010 1:50:42 PM)

Sorry to Pee in your Panzerspahwagen lemonade

The following list is made from the allocation reports found at the BAMA at Freiburg under the signature number RH 10/349 and RH 10/350, and the files of OKH/Waffenamt, NARA T 78 Roll 169 - BAMA RH 8

The Sdkfz 234/1 and 234/3 were issued to troops starting in June 1944. At this time, the TO&E authorized a Stabskompanie to have 13 x 234/1 and 3 x 234/3. A selected few Pz. Aufklärungsabteilungen were refitted according these guidelines. During the time from June till Octobre 1944, the monthly overview by Heeres-Waffenamt kept information on the older Skdfz 232 and 233, but didn’t differ the new variants of the type Sdkz. 234, except that the sheet on the Sdkfz 234 contained information on the Sdkfz 234/2, while the two other variants were included only in the numbers on the estimated production and the items accepted by the Waffenamt. So the information has to be gained by deduction and the in combination with the “Zuführungslisten” which contain data on the numbers delivered to Inspektion 6 (and thus the arsenals). As the stocks of Sdkfz 232 and 233 were at zero in June 1944 and none repaired this month, all the 2 cm and 7,5cm heavy armored cars isseud this month were of the new type.

1944

June

Waffenamt accpeted 62 new items, the highest entry ever, surpassing the expected 30 items.
Delivered to arsenals 60 new items, of which 7 x Sdkfz 234/2, the rest a mix of 234/1 and 234/3. 2 x 234/2 remained in the arsenals.

13 x 234/1, 3 x 234/3 to 116. Pz. Div. (unit full)
13 x 234/1 to 9. Pz. Div.
13 x 234/1 to 11. Pz. Div.
3 x 234/3 to 6. Pz. Div.
6 x 234/2 to 12. Pz.Div.

5./Pz.Aufkl.Lehr.Komp Krampnitz received one item. As this was the heavy Co of the Lehrtruppen Abteilung, most likely this was a new 234/3. With the same order a Sdkfz 234/2 was issued to Ersatzheer. It might have gone to the 4./Pz.Aufkl.Lehr.Komp. Krampnitz, as well.

July

Waffenamt accepted 32, still meeting the demanded production number of 30 items a month.
Delivered to arsenals were however only 13 new items (12 x 234/1 and 3, 1 x 234/2) and 2 repaired 232, which remained in stock. No 233 in stock. 1 234/2 was repaired, one new arrived, one 234/2 was issued to the Ersatzheer and might have ended up with 116. Pz.Div, thus in the arsenals at the end of then month 3 x 234/2 remained.

3 x 234/3 to 9. Pz.Div. (unit full)
3 x 234/3 to 11. Pz.Div (unit full)

August

Only 22 items were accepted by Waffenamt. The explication for not reaching the production goal of 35 was a shortage in “Differentialteile”.
31 new items were delivered to Insp. 6 (all new 234/1 and 234/3), 7 repaired items reached the arsenals, 3 x 233, of which two were reissued at once to the Ersatzheer – most probably ending up with 9. and 11. Pz. Div. - and 4 x 232, which were kept in stocks together with the two mentioned above and repaired in July. 3 x 234/2 in the arsenals.

3 x 234/1 to 6. Pz. Div (already having 3 x 234/3)
3 x 234/3, 4 x 234/1 to SS-Pz. Div. 2 “R”
3 x 234/3 to 8. Pz. Div.

September

The production goal of 35 was surpassed when 45 new items were accepted by Waffenamt. 41 of the 234/1 and 234/3 variant and 2 x 234/2 (new) were delivered. One of these Pumas was delivered to the Ersatzheer (not to 20. Pz. Div, correct this on my above Puma delivery list), stocks now at 4 x 234/2 at the end of the month. 3 x 233 were repaired and delivered and reissued, 2 to 14. Pz.Div., 1 to the Ersatzheer, thus one remaining in the arsenal. 4 x 232 were repaired and made a total of 10 x 232 in stocks, of which now 5 were issued to 14. Pz.Div and 5. Pz.Div, both units also received some le PSW. 5 x 232 thus remained in stocks.

9 x 234/1 to SS-Pz. Div. 2 “Reich” (unit full)
13 x 234/1 to 8. Pz. Div. (unit full)
10 x 234/1 to 6. Pz. Div. (unit full)
6 x 234/1 to FGB
3 x 234/3 to 20 Pz. Div. (in addition to 16 x 234/2)
4 x 232, 1 x 222, 2 x 223 to 5. Pz. Div.
1 x 232, 7 x 222 to 14. Pz. Div.

October

35 x 234/1 and one 234/3 were delivered to Insp. 6, 2 x 232 were repaired, of the 7 now available, 5 were issued to the Ersatzheer, 1 x 232 and 4 x 234/1 remained in the arsenals at the end of the month. 5 x 234/2 were repaired, of the 9 x 234/2 available, two were sent to the Ersatzheer and 7 remained in the arsenals as did 6 x 234/3 and 1 x 233. 15 x 222 and 10 x 223, all repaired, entered arsenals and except 1 x 222 all were reissued, in stock were 2 x 222 and 2 x 223.

3 x 234/3 to Pz.Gren.Div. Brandenburg (10 sPSW assigned, however only 3 delivered in Oct.)
3 x 234/1, 5 x 234/3 to SS-Pz. Div. “LAH” (the unit still had 8 x 234/2)
8 x 234/1 to Pz. Lehr Div. (the unit still had 4 x 234/2)
1 x 232, 13 x 234/1, 3 x 234/3 to Pz.Gren.Div. “Hermann Göring”
1 x 234/1, 3 x 234/3, 3 x 223, 6 x 222 to SS-Pz.Div. “HJ”
1 x 233 to Feld-Uffz.Schule
4 x 234/1, 2 x 234/3, 1 x 223, 2 x 222 to 20. Pz.Gren. Div
6 x 222 to 90. Pz.Gren.Div.
5 x 232, 2 x 234/2, 3 x 234/3 and 6 x 223 (only 3 noted down in Zuführungslisten as 221) were issued to the Ersatzheer

November

27 x 234/1 and 13 x 234/3 were delivered to Insp. 6, 4 x 232, 6 x 233, 1 x 222 and 2 x 223 were repaired and sent into arsenals. 4 x 232, 6 x 234/1, 4 x 234/2, 7 x 233, 9 x 234/3, 3 x 223 remained in the arsenals. The remaining 222 was sent back to WaA for repairs, stocks thus at 0.

2 x 234/1 to Panzer Lehr
2 x 234/1 to 2. Pz. Div.
1 x 232 to 21. Pz. Div.
4 x 234/1, 3 x 234/3 to 9. SS. Pz. Div. (unit ending refreshing with 13 PSW, light and heavy)
10 x 234/1, 2 x 234/3 to 9. Pz.Div. Possibly profiting from a confusion, the 10 x 234/1 actually landed in the hands of 9. SS-Pz. Div.
4 x 234/1, 1 x 234/3 to 116 Pz Div. (unit full with 16 s PSW)
3 x 234/1 to 12. SS-Pz.Div.”HJ” (unit full with 16 PSW, light and heavy)
1 x 223, 2 x 222 to 25. Pz.Gren.Div.
3 x 234/2, 3 x 234/3 to Pz. Brigade 150

December

Production of 234/3 was stopped. 11 x 234/1, 17 x 234/3 and 25 x 234/4 were delivered to Insp. 6. 2 x 232 and 1 x 233, 6 x 222 and 3 x 223 were repaired and delivered to arsenals. Types available for distribution thus 17 x 234/1, 6 x 232 (all issued), 4 x 234/2, 26 x 234/3, 8 x 233 (all issued), 6 x 222, 6 x 223 (all issued). The old material was issued to 21. Panzer, Grossdeutschland and the Ersatzheer. At the end of the month remaining stocks were: 2 x 234/1, 1 x 234/2, 3 x 234/3, 25 x 234/4, 2 x 222.

2 x 222, 3 x 234/1, 3 x 234/3 to SS-Pz.Div “Frundsberg”
4 x 234/1 to Pz.Gren.Div. Brandenburg (to the 3 already on strength, see above)
3 x 234/3 to 4.SS Pol.Pz.Gren.Div
3 x 234/3 to Pz. AA Lehr-Kp (this unit together with what was then the Aufklärungs-Lehr-Abteilung - not to be confounded with ALA 130 - became part of Radfahr-Jäger-Brigade 10).
1 x 223 to OB HGr B
1 x 232, 2 x 234/3, 3 x 223 to the Ersatzheer
1 x 234/3 to Feldherrenhalle
1 x 234/3 to 1. Pz. Div.
2 x 234/3 to 13. Pz.Div.
1 x 234/3 to 23. Pz. Div
3 x 234/3 to 24. Pz. Div.
1 x 222, 2 x 223 to 5. Pz. Div.
8 x 234/1, 1 x 234/3 to 1./190. Pz.Gren.Div (became part of AA Hirschberg, Pz. Brigade 103)
4 x 232, 2 x 233 to Grossdeutschland
3 x 234/2 to 7. Pz.Div (the last Pumas issued directly to a frontline unit)
3 x 234/3 to 17.SS.Pz.Gren Div.
6 x 233, 1 x 232 to 21. Pz.Div.

1945

January

37 x 234/1 and 3 x 234/4 were entering arsenals.7 x 222, 6 x 223, 1 x 232, 3 x 234/3 and 1 x 233 were repaired. It’s interesting to note that the ration between the variants often changes drastically between months. In summer, a big portion of 234/3 were produced early, leading to shortages of the 234/1 needed in bigger numbers and big stocks of 234/3. In February, only 234/4 would be delivered, while in March the deliveries would be split almost evenly between the two only variants left in production.

39 x 234/1, 1 x 232, 1 x 234/2, 6 x 234/3, 1 x 233, 28 x 234/4, 9 x 222 and 6 x 223 were in arsenals. This is the first month 234/4 were issued, although arsenals received them already in December. 7 x 234/1, 1 x 234/3, 7 x 234/4, 3 x 222 and 2 x 223 remained in stock at the end of it.

2 x 234/2, 7 x 234/4 to Brandenburg (4 x 234/1 and 3 x 234/3 already on strength, see above, unit thus complete, unit also wrote a test report on the of 234/4)
5 x 234/4 to 10. Pz.Gren.Div.
3 x 234/1 to Pz. AA Lehr-Kp (3 x 234/3 already on strength, see above)
2 x 234/3 to Feldherrenhalle (now having 3 x 234/3)
2 x 234/1, 1 x 234/3, 5 x 222 to Pz. AA “München” (the Zuführungsliste erroneously lists 7 le PSW, for Pz.Jagd-Brigade 104))
8 x 234/1, 7 x 234/3 to 24. Pz. Div. (complete type 45 Stabskompanie of a Aufklärungsabteilung, only one such in the Heer)
1 x 232, 6 x 234/1, 1 x 233, 1 x 234/2 to Ersatzheer
5 x 234/1, 1 x 222, 4 x 223 (or 221) to Polizei Schule Wien (this unit also had an assortment of older foreign PSWs, it’s not sure what happened here, a handwritten note only has 7 PSW leaving arsenals Feb. 10th, the unit fought and was destroyed in and around Vienna).
4 x 234/1 to SS-Pz.Div. “Totenkopf”
1 x 234/1, 2 x 234/3, to 1./ Pz. AA 190 (unit now at 9 x 234/1 and 3 x 234/3)
1 x 234/1, 6 x 234/4 to 4 Pz. Div

February

26 x 234/4 delivered. 5 x 222 and 2 x 223 repaired and delivered.
Available 7 x 234/1, 1 x 234/3, 33 x 234/4, 6 x 222 and 5 x 223.
Remaining in stocks: 11 x 234/4, 6 x 222, 4 x 223

6 x 234/4 to FBD (for some reason listed as not being part of the Heer).
5 x 234/1, 3 x 234/4 to Pz. (Gren) Div. Kurmark (Neuaufstellung)
2 x 234/1, 1 x 234/3 to 25 Pz.Gren.Div (Auffrischung, the Zuführungsliste has 3 more cars, if indeed delivered, they were le PSW, as stocks of all variants other than 234/4 were now empty).
1 x 222 to KG Kluge
4 x 234/1 to FBD (Auffrischung)
3 x 234/4 to Pz.Div.HG (Stelle ausserhalb des Heeres, Luftwaffe)
3 x 234/4 to Pz.Div. Jüterborg (Neuaufstellung)
3 x 234/4 to Pz. Div. Schlesien (Neuaufstellung)

March

The material of the Heereswaffenamt ends with February. 35 sPSW were delivered to Insp 6, 2 sPSW and 16 le PSW were repaired and delivered. It’s not possible to say which variants were produced in what numbers, but remarks on the Zuführungsliste identify at least some deliveries to units.

4 x 234/1, 3 x 234/4 to 25. Pz.Div.
4 x 234/1, 4 x 234/4 to Pz. Div. Müncheberg
5 PSW to Feldherrenhalle, maybe 3 x 234/1 and 2 x 234/4 (new Pz.Korps Feldherrenhalle)

7 x PSW to 13. Pz. Div, maybe 4 x 234/1 and 3 x 234/4 (new Pz. Korps Feldherrenhalle)
3 x PSW toPz. Div. HG , maybe 234/4
4 x PSW to 8. Pz. Div, maybe 234/4
3 x 234/1, 3 x 234/4 to Begl.Kp.z.b.V (Begleitkompanie I, KG Moews)
8 x 222, 4 x 223 to A.A. 115

If the above is correct, then at least 18 x 234/1 had to be produced, leaving 17 x 234/4. Stocks would go down to 8 sPSW and 12 le PSW at the end of the month

April
Nothing on production, it’s possible that none were delivered.

3 x PSW to Pz. Div. HG (probably all sPSW)
6 x PSW to 25 Pz. Gren. Div (probably 2 x sPSW and 4 x le PSW)
6 x 234/4 to 116 Pz. Div. Probably ending up with Pz. AA. Döring (possibly 2 sPSW and 4 le PSW, according to an order dated April 7th to raise a KG from 116. Pz. Div.)
se Aufstellung / Zufürungsliste bekannt ?




D.Ilse -> RE: New skins (8/3/2010 1:53:53 PM)

4 x 234/1, 3 x 234/3 to 9. SS. Pz. Div. (unit ending refreshing with 13 PSW, light and heavy)

and that wasn't til Nov.44 prior to the winter offensives. No deliveries were made June to Sept of the 234s to II.SS Panzer Korps.





zon -> RE: New skins (8/3/2010 4:48:48 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: D.Ilse

4 x 234/1, 3 x 234/3 to 9. SS. Pz. Div. (unit ending refreshing with 13 PSW, light and heavy)

and that wasn't til Nov.44 prior to the winter offensives. No deliveries were made June to Sept of the 234s to II.SS Panzer Korps.




Thanks for the info. Perhaps a 234/3 didn't get to Arnhem area, despite some sources to that effect. Again, I am not adding any vehicles to the current lineup.




zon -> RE: New skins (8/3/2010 5:02:24 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Manu

which scale do you use for the vehicles? Looking great!


They are registering at 8.5 pixels per metre, for the most part a bit bigger than the current vehicles in LSA.

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gabeeg -> RE: New skins (8/3/2010 5:36:29 PM)

those look, very, very nice...will download when available.  Thanks




Bamilus -> RE: New skins (8/3/2010 11:40:12 PM)

sexy [:)]




CaptRio -> RE: New skins (8/4/2010 1:01:08 AM)

Amazing indeed!!!!

These guys should hire you, top notch work!




Bradley62 -> RE: New skins (8/4/2010 1:23:51 AM)

Excellent work zon, thank you.




Pzt_Serk -> RE: New skins (8/4/2010 2:14:42 AM)

Impressive work Zon, Could it work with TLD?  Also, its a minor comment but could you add muzzle brake for 75mm guns? (Panthers, MK IV and StuG had them for exemple)

Cheers





squadleader_id -> RE: New skins (8/4/2010 2:34:00 AM)

Looking great! Very nice work! *drool*




zon -> RE: New skins (8/4/2010 3:48:56 AM)

Thanks all for the great feedback. Very encouraging.

Pzt_Serk, I've found muzzle brakes never seem to look so hot at this scale, but I might take a shot at it.




final_drive -> RE: New skins (8/5/2010 11:57:44 PM)

Zon,
Looks great. Remember the screenshot from years ago.

D.Ilse,
quote:

Sorry to Pee in your Panzerspahwagen lemonade

You forgot to mention your source. Hans Weber would have appreciated.

Cheers




Andrew Williams -> RE: New skins (8/6/2010 4:29:57 AM)

Hey Zon

Have you tried any of the LSA maps in CC2Redux?




zon -> RE: New skins (8/6/2010 5:35:36 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Andrew Williams

Hey Zon

Have you tried any of the LSA maps in CC2Redux?


I haven't, Andrew.




D.Ilse -> RE: New skins (8/6/2010 7:15:26 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: final_drive

Zon,
Looks great. Remember the screenshot from years ago.

D.Ilse,
quote:

Sorry to Pee in your Panzerspahwagen lemonade

You forgot to mention your source. Hans Weber would have appreciated.

Cheers


[:o] I thought he was meantioned in the first paragraph, since I was looking at that and another s.PSW article Mr. Weber did. I just did a quick scan before posting to make sure 9.SS and 10.SS didn't have /3s til post.9/44

Although 116.Pz did go to Arnhem and it did have 234/1 and 234/3 in it's 116.Pz AA. I am not sure if the AA saw action in the Post Market Garden German operations.




Platoon_Michael -> RE: New skins (8/7/2010 1:56:23 PM)

Any chance you could do one for WAR?
Those look very nice and would enhance the game a lot more inmho




zon -> RE: New skins (8/19/2010 4:47:57 PM)

Michael, I can't see myself getting into a WAR vehicle mod. Conflict of interest of sorts, since I did some Allied vehicles for that release :)






zon -> RE: New skins (8/19/2010 4:49:30 PM)

Some more screens...

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zon -> RE: New skins (8/19/2010 4:50:21 PM)

Char vs Shermans

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zon -> RE: New skins (8/19/2010 4:51:20 PM)

M10, Daimler, UC

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zon -> RE: New skins (8/19/2010 4:52:36 PM)

PZIIIs, Marder

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zon -> RE: New skins (8/19/2010 4:53:13 PM)

Shermans, Stu, scout car

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