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LTC -> New player with a question about factory/resourse locations (8/5/2010 2:31:16 PM)

Well firstly,

hello peeps [:)]

I have mostly played western front boardgames and some computergames so thought i would try my hand at a pacific game, tho i confess i am not very knowledgeable about the theatre outside area gains by japan, aircraft, ships etc i don't know by name/type so have some catch up there.

my questions are,

I have started a game ( my first even) and i realise that the economy for japan is limited so i have been running about checking what HI, LI, resourses, oil etc are located around the map so i can determine what i can leave behind and what i can take out without causing a shortfall. If i have understood the system then for example i have a requirement of 180 fuel/day and 6000 resourses/day to power the industry located on the home island of hokkaido which produces about 150 oil/day and ~22000 resourses/day so i can safely remove the oil and 15k resourses without detriment.

I was about to check the same for china etc but i find this a slow process of locating the city on map then checking the industry tab and locating that city to see what is required and what is surplus. What i wanted to know is am i missing something that allows me to check the balance by region to save time or is the city by city check the only way to calculate the values for a specific area to see what i can pull out and what i must replace.

As an aside, the units for army groups seem somewhat spread out, i realise that you wont have fully organised in range units in command chains as easily as you would on the western front but that still makes me nervous, how essential is it in the pacific to maintain command chains or can you get away without them when island hopping? in addition can you only locate units under an hq by first finding an attached unit, tho that then doesn't give you the location of the hq, as it is if i click on the hq to find its units i get every unit attached to every hq that is linked to its higher hq, for southern area that is a lot. is there some tree i am missing that i can locate an hq, see its superior hq and only the hq attached units?

lastly why oh why did you not make the manual a ring bound book so i can have it lay flat and open without destroying the spine.

any advise there would be greatly appreciated



n01487477 -> RE: New player with a question about factory/resourse locations (8/5/2010 2:49:57 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: LTC

Well firstly,

hello peeps [:)]

I have mostly played western front boardgames and some computergames so thought i would try my hand at a pacific game, tho i confess i am not very knowledgeable about the theatre outside area gains by japan, aircraft, ships etc i don't know by name/type so have some catch up there.

my questions are,

I have started a game ( my first even) and i realise that the economy for japan is limited so i have been running about checking what HI, LI, resourses, oil etc are located around the map so i can determine what i can leave behind and what i can take out without causing a shortfall. If i have understood the system then for example i have a requirement of 180 fuel/day and 6000 resourses/day to power the industry located on the home island of hokkaido which produces about 150 oil/day and ~22000 resourses/day so i can safely remove the oil and 15k resourses without detriment.

I was about to check the same for china etc but i find this a slow process of locating the city on map then checking the industry tab and locating that city to see what is required and what is surplus. What i wanted to know is am i missing something that allows me to check the balance by region to save time or is the city by city check the only way to calculate the values for a specific area to see what i can pull out and what i must replace.

As an aside, the units for army groups seem somewhat spread out, i realise that you wont have fully organised in range units in command chains as easily as you would on the western front but that still makes me nervous, how essential is it in the pacific to maintain command chains or can you get away without them when island hopping? in addition can you only locate units under an hq by first finding an attached unit, tho that then doesn't give you the location of the hq, as it is if i click on the hq to find its units i get every unit attached to every hq that is linked to its higher hq, for southern area that is a lot. is there some tree i am missing that i can locate an hq, see its superior hq and only the hq attached units?

lastly why oh why did you not make the manual a ring bound book so i can have it lay flat and open without destroying the spine.

any advise there would be greatly appreciated

Check out WitpTracker http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2236936



LTC -> RE: New player with a question about factory/resourse locations (8/5/2010 4:07:31 PM)

Thank you Damian,

This will take a little while to set up the regions as i would like to see them but was exactly what i was hoping for, very nice program.

LtC



Rob Brennan UK -> RE: New player with a question about factory/resourse locations (8/5/2010 5:50:51 PM)

Trackers well worth the effort of getting it set up, It will save you hours of map hunting and several trees worth of paper in the long run.

If its your 1'st go at AE, playing japan is a rather brave choice. Playing allies is imo a better learning curve for new players.

Have fun regardless.

EDIT - just noticed your new to the forums too , welcome to the soul sapping experience that is WitP/AE.



n01487477 -> RE: New player with a question about factory/resourse locations (8/6/2010 12:20:21 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: LTC

Thank you Damian,

This will take a little while to set up the regions as i would like to see them but was exactly what i was hoping for, very nice program.

LtC

LTC,
If you think you have to set up the regions manually, there are some region files already defined for Tracker ... http://sites.google.com/site/witptracker/regions-1 (look at the import method) ... As of 1.6 we don't have predefined regions...
Good luck and welcome to AE / Tracker



LTC -> RE: New player with a question about factory/resourse locations (8/6/2010 12:44:52 AM)

Ah i did not notice the import, still i have edited in all curretly owned jap bases and can add each new base manually as i proceed. Tho i confess i am not seeing the early blitz i was expecting, still 5 days in and apart from the oil on miri all but being blown up so far so good :)

The tracker has already saved me from taking oil reserves out of a zone losing oil daily so looking good atm. only 8k oil to find and 40k resourses/day and i will be golden.



topeverest -> RE: New player with a question about factory/resourse locations (8/6/2010 1:38:41 AM)

LTC,

Welcome to the forum. You might want to play the Allies first, if you are playing one of the campaign scn. Or try Guadalcanal. There is plenty to learn operationally that is required well before the Empire economy is tackled. IMHO, that would be a easyier learning curve.



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