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bo -> Truk and Rabaul (8/24/2010 3:26:26 AM)
Not a complaint but I am confused about Truk and Rabaul, first Truk was a major anchorage for the Japanese naval forces but you show it as a 1, can it be made larger so more ships can be stationed there? Rabaul was also a major naval base but you only allow a maxium 10 for supply could someone explain to me why this is? Bo

Razz1 -> RE: Truk and Rabaul (8/24/2010 5:09:25 AM)
For supply.. each island needed support, hence convoys. Need to send convoys to increase supply. For Port size I would have to check history. Wake island is incorrect too... it should be a level one. In the Rising Sun you have options to increase port sizes. I still need to fix Wake in the Rising Sun... sure it was built larger and made into a small Naval station but in the next version of the Rising Sun it will be a level one or two with the option for a both players to upgrade the port for a cost in PP. If I find that you correct concerning Truk I will add option to increase size in the Rising Sun. It will be hard for me to find the size of the port. I do know that all the ports in Asia could barely support a heavy cruiser in WW2. It was a big headache for the Allies as it was very hard on logistical support and movement for BB's and CV's. If you can post a link as to the size of the ships that could be stationed and repaired at Truk that may help in pushing for a correction in the next patch. The problem with ports is size also determines what can be repaired. I really don't think they used Midway to repair cruisers, like replacing main or secndary guns. I believe there were a few island that were just used or converted into docking stations. We can't simulate that in SOP, so Truk may be out of the question. Do you really want the Japanese to deploy and repar BB's CV's and Cruisers at Truk? It effects balance. Think about it and please teach me something if you can find documented referance online. Lets wait and see what Anarz or Doom says....... Edit: I have been think about doing something to force the Allies to attack Truk. probably needs 1 PP and 3 VP

jomni -> RE: Truk and Rabaul (8/24/2010 5:29:32 AM)
Rabaul does not create supplies on their own. No large towns, resources and factories are there. So you need to ship supplies from a bigger base to Rabaul. In WITP, I cannot repair BBs in Truk. I need to ship them back to the home islands.

Razz1 -> RE: Truk and Rabaul (8/24/2010 7:50:16 AM)
see that's what I thought. What about major repairs of Crusiers at Truk.

bo -> RE: Truk and Rabaul (8/24/2010 7:01:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Razz For supply.. each island needed support, hence convoys. Need to send convoys to increase supply. For Port size I would have to check history. Wake island is incorrect too... it should be a level one. In the Rising Sun you have options to increase port sizes. I still need to fix Wake in the Rising Sun... sure it was built larger and made into a small Naval station but in the next version of the Rising Sun it will be a level one or two with the option for a both players to upgrade the port for a cost in PP. If I find that you correct concerning Truk I will add option to increase size in the Rising Sun. It will be hard for me to find the size of the port. I do know that all the ports in Asia could barely support a heavy cruiser in WW2. It was a big headache for the Allies as it was very hard on logistical support and movement for BB's and CV's. If you can post a link as to the size of the ships that could be stationed and repaired at Truk that may help in pushing for a correction in the next patch. The problem with ports is size also determines what can be repaired. I really don't think they used Midway to repair cruisers, like replacing main or secndary guns. I believe there were a few island that were just used or converted into docking stations. We can't simulate that in SOP, so Truk may be out of the question. Do you really want the Japanese to deploy and repar BB's CV's and Cruisers at Truk? It effects balance. Think about it and please teach me something if you can find documented referance online. Lets wait and see what Anarz or Doom says....... Edit: I have been think about doing something to force the Allies to attack Truk. probably needs 1 PP and 3 VP Hi Razz thanks for getting back to me, it was not a complaint just a question. A description of Truk was it had a huge anchorage available for the Japanes fleets, I do not think any major repairs were done there or at Rabaul such as removing gun turrets for repair, repairing torpedo damage etc, would need dry docks and they were in Japan. The reason I wanted a larger number for Truk was because I could put more fleets there but not for repair, I agree game balance would be effected if you did this. [repair at Truk] If you base your numbers for a port from 1 to 8 for supporting fleets and repairing them then I would leave it alone, as far as Wake goes the US seabees would have been lucky to build a small dock for fishing let alone a fleet anchorage there. As for Rabaul no matter how hard I try I can only get a 10 supply for this 6 port, if Wake can get any amount of supplies it wants why not Rabaul where it would be far more important to the Japanese than supplies at Wake island. Bo

bo -> RE: Truk and Rabaul (8/24/2010 7:06:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jomni Rabaul does not create supplies on their own. No large towns, resources and factories are there. So you need to ship supplies from a bigger base to Rabaul. In WITP, I cannot repair BBs in Truk. I need to ship them back to the home islands. Hi jomnin no argument on what you say, but I tried to ship supplies to Rabaul but the game mechanics only allow me to ship 10 supply points, do not understand why you brought up towns resources etc for supply, Rabaul had a lot more going for it in WW2 than Wake did and Wake can get all the supplies it wants. Bo

Tomokatu -> RE: Truk and Rabaul (8/24/2010 9:36:24 PM)
Razz noted: quote: I do know that all the ports in Asia could barely support a heavy cruiser in WW2. The nearest dock which could repair a cruiser was the Cockatoo Dock in Sydney. The USS Chicago was in port for minor repairs and servicing at the time (and was the intended target) of the Japanese submarine attack. http://www.ww2australia.gov.au/underattack/sydharbour.html Ports further North (Brisbane, Rockhampton, Darwin) didn't have sufficient docking ability to handle anything more than light (very light) boats.

17russia -> RE: Truk and Rabaul (8/25/2010 7:39:36 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bo Not a complaint but I am confused about Truk and Rabaul, first Truk was a major anchorage for the Japanese naval forces but you show it as a 1, can it be made larger so more ships can be stationed there? Rabaul was also a major naval base but you only allow a maxium 10 for supply could someone explain to me why this is? Bo During the war both bases were feared for their potential air power. Both bases were major staging areas as well but neither was equiped to repair major surface units. Ships were patched and sent to Japan for repairs. I do not believe ships even got refits at the bases above AAA and other minor tweks. The US struck both bases several times, if I remember correctly the Saratoga got a torp out of the deal and the Japanese were short a ton of planes and several 100 thousand tons of shipping. The bases possesed more fear factor than anything and were really just very functional staging grounds.

Razz1 -> RE: Truk and Rabaul (8/25/2010 5:25:28 PM)
Look at the supply level in the info box. Max supply is set at 10 for Rabul. The new version of Rising Sun will have option to increase Truk by 1 as the Japanese had a 2500 ton floating drydock.

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