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Krob -> Cursor moving to upper left corner (9/2/2010 3:53:54 AM)

Periodically I get a bug that causes my cursor to move to the upper left corner which results in a continuous scroll of the map.

I've no idea how to recreate the problem. I've no idea how to resolve the issue other than restarting or reloading my game. -I can only access the menu (or temporarily resume normal control) if I target an item and lock it, otherwise I can only move my cursor an inch or so before it resets to the corner.

I'm guessing upper left is 0,0 and there's something that's causing it to warp there, but I've no clue.

K



torrenal -> RE: Cursor moving to upper left corner (9/3/2010 2:03:32 AM)

Never seen this myself... do you have the same problem in other apps?

Is the mouse optical? If so, would cleaning it help? (I find optical mice have a tendency to jump 'at random' when lint or hair is involved -- even when the mouse is not being touched).

I'm not saying its not the game, but the game would normally be going through windows to mouse drivers to speak with the mouse, and I've never seen the game influence the position of the mouse (it may pay attention to it when I am in other windows, but I never recall seing the game drag the mouse around the screen for me). //Torrenal



Vanguard_DW -> RE: Cursor moving to upper left corner (9/3/2010 12:11:25 PM)

I've had this problem myself of the cursor jumping to the top left corner (though less so it seems with the latest update, maybe coincidence), assumed it was a problem with my mouse so didn't bother to report it. It mainly seems to occur when in the game editor for me. I find I can resolve it by doing a save, after the galaxy things stopped spinning the cursor is back to normal.

Also I do use an optical mouse.



torrenal -> RE: Cursor moving to upper left corner (9/4/2010 2:53:14 AM)

I never touch the game editor, and I never see the problem... (Hrm....)

When my optical mice begin jumping, I take it as a sign to clean the mouse and the surface its on (though to be honest, most of the jumps are fairly small, not 'top of screen' material). Currently using an optical tracball @ home, which hasn't had this problem (this one stops responding with too much lint), and an archaic ball mouse at work. //Torrenal



Gloryseeker -> RE: Cursor moving to upper left corner (9/4/2010 10:28:15 PM)

Ive had the same problem lots and its really annoying. The cursor to move to the top left of the screen and there's nothing you can do about it. Also it is the game and not the mouse because if you alt-tap out of the game the mouse works fine and i didnt even know there was an editor.

PS ive just joinned the forum because it has just happened to me again.



Krob -> RE: Cursor moving to upper left corner (9/6/2010 6:16:22 PM)

Totally not the mouse, though I've cleaned the cat hair out of it.

I have a dual display setup, if I move the mouse on to my secondary display, it doesn't move. Only in the game window. And, as stated before, if I lock a target, it behaves properly until unlocked again. Never seen the behaviour before in anything else. Definitely game related.

K



torrenal -> RE: Cursor moving to upper left corner (9/6/2010 7:39:01 PM)

Lets elaborate some on the detail: OS, Keyboard, Mouse, Monitor, and observed User Input symptoms

OS: Windows Vista 64 bit. Mouse: PS2 style Microsoft mouse - Product ID 52204 Keyboard: Razer Lycosa Monitor: Dual monitor. Running game from the primary display, which has the larger screen.

Observed User Input symptoms: The only mouse anomalies I see is that the game will respond to mouse clicks made in windows on monitor 2. It does this by briefly drawing a box in the game screen, as if I were going to select multiple ships. It will also respond to some keyboard input (arrow keys will scroll the game window) when focus is in non-game windows on the second monitor. I have had to specifically run other applications in administrator mode to get that kind of keyboard behavior, so its appearance outside of this mode is disconcerting. While I have observed the occasional fleet heading for the top left corner of the map, or ships teleporting there (both very rare and unreproducible), I believe those to be unrelated to any user interface problems. Mouse observed to jump? Never. //Torrenal



Dirty Foot -> RE: Cursor moving to upper left corner (9/26/2010 11:25:36 PM)

I am also getting this very bug. I can assure those in the tech support area that this is not a "user-side" error, this is completely limited to the game screen only. Also, I am only running on one monitor.

I am noticing that the issue might be tied to messages/offers box in the top left (from pirates), though it may also extend to messages from other empires. It's hard to keep track though, as I get intensely angry at the loss of my entire game and tend to only focus on that. Yes, reloading does bring back a usable game for roughly the time it takes for the issue to arise once more.

Again, I iterate that this is not a "mouse" problem. Alt-tabbing to the desktop alleviates all mouse issues immediately. I say this because I know just how defensive tech support can be about their product (Ex: "I can't replicate the issue so that means it's your fault.").

Edit:

Windows Vista (64-bit)
Logitech G15 Keyboard
Logitech G500 Mouse
Monitor is Samsung Syncmaster 2033 (though this is irrelevant to the issue)



torrenal -> RE: Cursor moving to upper left corner (9/28/2010 2:51:56 AM)

Good to have the info!

The G500 would be a corded laser mouse (lint a possible factor (which I doubt, but please check), batteries not an issue... cord might be, just be sure it's firmly connected and not frayed (again, I doubt this is the issue, but please look)). I take your mention of one monitor to mean you are not in a multiple-monitor setting...

Might be worth checking that you have the latest drivers for your mouse: http://www.logitech.com/en-us/428/5750?section=downloads&bit=&osid=13

I'm bringing monitors into this because multiple monitor environments have special considerations that can affect mouse use if not properly considered (for example, negative mouse coordinates become possible). If its glitching in a single monitor setting, that allows us to discard an entire host of possible factors.

I'm hoping we see a few more reports so we can start identifying common factors.
//Torrenal

(Grr... you would be surprised how many games involve moving to the top left corner and jumping... searching for other examples of this problem is.... difficult).



Vanguard_DW -> RE: Cursor moving to upper left corner (9/28/2010 1:38:00 PM)

I'll post a report of my own system tomorrow (if I remember!)
But I only have 1 monitor, so it's not multiple monitors causing it.



Dirty Foot -> RE: Cursor moving to upper left corner (9/28/2010 8:34:56 PM)

I don't quite know if the issue is linked. Before another mouse lock-up, I managed to kill the pirates that kept sending me a "proposal". Reloaded the game, and now I experience no mouse errors. Again, I have absolutely no proof that they were the actual issue, my knowledge of computer programming is amazingly varied and untrustworthy.



thrud -> RE: Cursor moving to upper left corner (10/14/2010 4:43:58 AM)

my mouse jumps to the corner as well. Sometimes I can save the game, and sometimes I have to end task using task manager.

I use a Dell corded optical mouse, Vista 7 ultimate 64-bit, and single monitor. Like the other posts, I have no problems with any other game/screen. The error takes anywhere from 2 hrs to 6 hrs to appear (I pause the game at night when I go to bed, instead of logging off becasue it takes a couple of minutes to load the game from scratch).

Eric



Krob -> RE: Cursor moving to upper left corner (12/17/2010 3:14:34 AM)

Necro post!

This is still an issue with 1.5.0.0. :(

Since my original post, I have found that if you save your game, the mouse reverts to normal behaviour, but the pointer will start flaking quicker and quicker after the save. So, perhaps, a memory issue?

For those of you that encounter this, you can usually lock onto an item to get control of your mouse again (though if you break the lock, it goes flying again).

K



Kadrush -> RE: Cursor moving to upper left corner (12/17/2010 12:03:38 PM)

I had this bug, try ctrl + s to save the game, then close the program

Sometimes if I manage to minimize it, the cursor is released.



elliotg -> RE: Cursor moving to upper left corner (12/17/2010 9:49:20 PM)

Hi all

I don't think this issue is related to Distant Worlds. It might show up in DW because it works your CPU and memory more than most other apps, but DW itself doesn't do anything special with your mouse.

Have you made sure that your mouse drivers are up-to-date? Possibly this is even a hardware issue - if you play DW for long sessions your PC might be working harder than it's used to, overheating, etc?

Can you outline specific steps that reliably reproduce this problem in DW?

Thanks
Elliot



Sabin Stargem -> RE: Cursor moving to upper left corner (1/1/2011 7:35:07 AM)

This problem has happened to me after saving the game. Maybe it has something to do with the game using Window's...er, windows? If I recall correctly, most games that use Window's GUI for menus and such tend to have these kind of issues. (But like one of the above posters, my technical knowledge is flaky...)



JosEPhII -> RE: Cursor moving to upper left corner (1/1/2011 4:12:41 PM)


Once this starts have you all tried double clicking the left mouse button while the curor is in the upper left corner?

The only game I've ever experienced this behavior with the cursor is Civ IV BtS. And only when I Alt-Tab out of the game. The cursor will move to the upper left corner of my monitor and I have to DBL click to get control back. The mouse is a LX-3 Logitech Optical USB corded mouse. Seems the mouse is still under CIV's control until I Dbl click.

Hope this helps.

JosEPh



Carl4243 -> RE: Cursor moving to upper left corner (4/17/2011 12:31:23 PM)

Hi all, i have been having this issue not long after the game released, and it is frustrating as hell... i stopped playing this for a number of months after no fix... i bought the expansion a couple months ago hoping this would be fixed but it's not...   sorry to necro this topic but i couldnt find any others more recent and this was 7 pages back... so i did search.

As those above have stated despite Eliot's claim that it's not DW, this only happens in this game, and i play many different games daily...  i really love DW's concept and enjoy the game very much when it works, but this bug is just KILLING it for me!... 

Oh btw, i got the bug going right now with the game minimized running in the background... which is why i'm here, i'm frustrated to hell and want to play my game!!   auto save isnt working (tried quick save liek 10x now) and it's been i think 20 min now and still goin in that corner... 2 loads also and a few min later boom, corner... sometimes it will last longer, sometimes within 30 sec.

I dont care if it's a game issue or a .net framework issue or something! i just want to be able to get threw a game without this happening a few hours into the game then every 5 min after a load.


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Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A39&SUBSYS_01981025&REV_00\3&11583659&0&D2
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbuhci.sys, 6.00.6001.18000 (English), 1/20/2008 21:47:25, 29184 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 00:39:39, 259584 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 00:39:52, 273920 bytes

    Name: Intel(R) ICH10 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 3A38
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A38&SUBSYS_01981025&REV_00\3&11583659&0&D1
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbuhci.sys, 6.00.6001.18000 (English), 1/20/2008 21:47:25, 29184 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 00:39:39, 259584 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 00:39:52, 273920 bytes

    Name: Intel(R) ICH10 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 3A37
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A37&SUBSYS_01981025&REV_00\3&11583659&0&D0
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbuhci.sys, 6.00.6001.18000 (English), 1/20/2008 21:47:25, 29184 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 00:39:39, 259584 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 00:39:52, 273920 bytes

    Name: Intel(R) ICH10 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 3A36
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A36&SUBSYS_01981025&REV_00\3&11583659&0&EA
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbuhci.sys, 6.00.6001.18000 (English), 1/20/2008 21:47:25, 29184 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 00:39:39, 259584 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 00:39:52, 273920 bytes

    Name: Intel(R) ICH10 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 3A35
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A35&SUBSYS_01981025&REV_00\3&11583659&0&E9
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbuhci.sys, 6.00.6001.18000 (English), 1/20/2008 21:47:25, 29184 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 00:39:39, 259584 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 00:39:52, 273920 bytes

    Name: Intel(R) ICH10 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 3A34
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A34&SUBSYS_01981025&REV_00\3&11583659&0&E8
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbuhci.sys, 6.00.6001.18000 (English), 1/20/2008 21:47:25, 29184 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 00:39:39, 259584 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 00:39:52, 273920 bytes

    Name: Intel(R) ICH10 Family SMBus Controller - 3A30
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A30&SUBSYS_01981025&REV_00\3&11583659&0&FB
  Driver: n/a

    Name: Intel(R) ICH10R SATA AHCI Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A22&SUBSYS_01981025&REV_00\3&11583659&0&FA
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\iaStor.sys, 8.05.0000.1032 (English), 7/29/2005 10:35:59, 402456 bytes

    Name: Intel(R) ICH10R LPC Interface Controller - 3A16
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3A16&SUBSYS_01981025&REV_00\3&11583659&0&F8
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\msisadrv.sys, 6.00.6001.18000 (English), 1/20/2008 21:46:51, 17976 bytes

    Name: Intel(R) 5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub Throttle Registers - 3438
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3438&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_12\3&11583659&0&A3
  Driver: n/a

    Name: Intel(R) 5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub System Management Registers - 342E
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_342E&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_12\3&11583659&0&A0
  Driver: n/a

    Name: Intel(R) 5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub I/OxAPIC Interrupt Controller - 342D
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_342D&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_12\3&11583659&0&98
  Driver: n/a

    Name: Intel(R) 5520/5500/X58 Routing and Protocol Layer Registers Port 0 - 3426
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3426&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_12\3&11583659&0&81
  Driver: n/a

    Name: Intel(R) 5520/5500/X58 Physical and Link Layer Registers Port 0 - 3425
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3425&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_12\3&11583659&0&80
  Driver: n/a

    Name: Intel(R) 5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub Control Status and RAS Registers - 3423
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3423&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_12\3&11583659&0&A2
  Driver: n/a

    Name: Intel(R) 5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub GPIO and Scratch Pad Registers - 3422
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3422&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_12\3&11583659&0&A1
  Driver: n/a

    Name: Intel(R) 5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub PCI Express Root Port 7 - 340E
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_340E&SUBSYS_01981025&REV_12\3&11583659&0&38
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 02:15:31, 178664 bytes

    Name: Intel(R) 5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub PCI Express Root Port 3 - 340A
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_340A&SUBSYS_01981025&REV_12\3&11583659&0&18
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 02:15:31, 178664 bytes

    Name: Intel(R) 5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub PCI Express Root Port 1 - 3408
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3408&SUBSYS_01981025&REV_12\3&11583659&0&08
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 02:15:31, 178664 bytes

    Name: Intel(R) 5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub to ESI Port - 3405
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3405&SUBSYS_01981025&REV_12\3&11583659&0&00
  Driver: n/a

    Name: Intel(R) 82801 PCI Bridge - 244E
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_244E&SUBSYS_01981025&REV_90\3&11583659&0&F0
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 02:15:31, 178664 bytes

    Name: Intel(R) 82567LF-2 Gigabit Network Connection
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_10CD&SUBSYS_01981025&REV_00\3&11583659&0&C8
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\e1y60x64.sys, 9.52.0009.0000 (English), 6/13/2008 03:41:54, 316544 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\e1y60x64.din, 5/29/2008 07:15:48, 2723 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\NicCo26.dll, 2.01.0000.0000 (English), 8/23/2007 19:58:16, 36472 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\NicInstQ.dll, 9.10.0002.0000 (English), 6/4/2008 04:00:02, 57464 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\e1000msg.dll, 9.08.0000.0000 (English), 12/14/2007 00:06:06, 121440 bytes

    Name: Standard AHCI 1.0 Serial ATA Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_197B&DEV_2363&SUBSYS_01981025&REV_03\4&4054087&0&0008
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\msahci.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 02:15:21, 29656 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pciidex.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 02:15:24, 49640 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\atapi.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 02:15:00, 20952 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\ataport.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 02:15:28, 123368 bytes

    Name: VIA OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3044&SUBSYS_01981025&REV_C0\4&1963F9A4&0&30F0
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\ohci1394.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 00:39:49, 72448 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\1394bus.sys, 6.00.6001.18000 (English), 1/20/2008 21:46:54, 65280 bytes

    Name: High Definition Audio Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_AA30&SUBSYS_AA30174B&REV_00\4&1635B5A2&0&0118
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\hdaudbus.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 00:39:41, 948736 bytes

    Name: ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series        
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9442&SUBSYS_E810174B&REV_00\4&1635B5A2&0&0018
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\atikmdag.sys, 8.01.0001.1071 (English), 10/3/2010 13:24:07, 7767040 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\ati2erec.dll, 1.00.0000.0019 (English), 10/3/2010 13:23:58, 53248 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\atikmpag.sys, 8.14.0001.6143 (English), 10/3/2010 13:24:42, 279040 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atiumd64.dll, 8.14.0010.0779 (English), 10/3/2010 13:24:36, 5202944 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atiumd6a.dll, 8.14.0010.0275 (English), 10/3/2010 13:24:10, 3147264 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atitmm64.dll, 6.14.0011.0023 (English), 10/3/2010 13:24:46, 120320 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atiicdxx.dat, 10/3/2010 13:26:09, 219348 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\amdpcom64.dll, 8.14.0010.0023 (English), 10/3/2010 13:24:46, 53760 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atimpc64.dll, 8.14.0010.0023 (English), 10/3/2010 13:24:46, 53760 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atiadlxx.dll, 6.14.0010.1054 (English), 10/3/2010 13:26:08, 338432 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atiumd6a.cap, 10/3/2010 13:24:43, 583888 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atimuixx.dll, 6.14.0010.1001 (English), 10/3/2010 13:24:21, 12288 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atiapfxx.exe, 6.14.0010.1001 (English), 10/3/2010 13:26:10, 143360 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atiapfxx.blb, 10/3/2010 13:24:05, 76216 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atiesrxx.exe, 6.14.0011.1069 (English), 10/3/2010 13:24:19, 203264 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atieclxx.exe, 6.14.0011.1069 (English), 10/3/2010 13:23:58, 462336 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atipdl64.dll, 6.14.0010.2562 (English), 10/3/2010 13:24:46, 421376 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atiedu64.dll, 6.14.0010.2514 (English), 10/3/2010 13:24:18, 59392 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\ATIDEMGX.dll, 2.00.3889.37738 (English), 10/3/2010 13:26:10, 450560 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atio6axx.dll, 6.14.0010.10188 (English), 10/3/2010 13:26:26, 20736000 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\aticaldd64.dll, 6.14.0010.0815 (English), 10/3/2010 13:26:08, 5425664 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\aticalrt64.dll, 6.14.0010.0815 (English), 10/3/2010 13:24:45, 51200 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\aticalcl64.dll, 6.14.0010.0815 (English), 10/3/2010 13:24:21, 44544 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atipblag.dat, 6/15/2010 17:28:58, 2857 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atiu9p64.dll, 8.14.0001.6143 (English), 10/3/2010 13:24:11, 37376 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atiuxp64.dll, 8.14.0001.6143 (English), 10/3/2010 13:24:02, 39424 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atig6pxx.dll, 8.14.0001.6143 (English), 10/3/2010 13:24:22, 14848 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atig6txx.dll, 8.14.0001.6143 (English), 10/3/2010 13:24:16, 21504 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atitmp64.dll, 6.14.0011.0021 (English), 10/3/2010 13:24:36, 26112 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atibtmon.exe, 2.00.0000.0000 (English), 5/11/2009 16:35:28, 118784 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atidxx64.dll, 8.17.0010.0303 (English), 10/3/2010 13:24:43, 4602880 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\atiumdag.dll, 8.14.0010.0779 (English), 10/3/2010 13:24:31, 4032512 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\atiumdva.dll, 8.14.0010.0275 (English), 10/3/2010 13:26:08, 3392000 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\amdpcom32.dll, 8.14.0010.0023 (English), 10/3/2010 13:24:08, 52736 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\atimpc32.dll, 8.14.0010.0023 (English), 10/3/2010 13:24:08, 52736 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\atiadlxy.dll, 6.14.0010.1054 (English), 10/3/2010 13:24:40, 241664 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\atiumdva.cap, 10/3/2010 13:24:14, 583888 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\atipdlxx.dll, 6.14.0010.2562 (English), 10/3/2010 13:24:19, 356352 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\Oemdspif.dll, 6.15.0006.0006 (English), 10/3/2010 13:23:59, 278528 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\ati2edxx.dll, 6.14.0010.2514 (English), 10/3/2010 13:23:59, 43520 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\atioglxx.dll, 6.14.0010.10188 (English), 10/3/2010 13:24:35, 15830016 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\atidxx32.dll, 8.17.0010.0303 (English), 10/3/2010 13:24:04, 3914240 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\aticaldd.dll, 6.14.0010.0815 (English), 10/3/2010 13:24:19, 4375552 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\aticalrt.dll, 6.14.0010.0815 (English), 10/3/2010 13:24:14, 46080 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\aticalcl.dll, 6.14.0010.0815 (English), 10/3/2010 13:24:02, 44032 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\atipblag.dat, 6/15/2010 17:28:58, 2857 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\atiu9pag.dll, 8.14.0001.6143 (English), 10/3/2010 13:24:23, 28160 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\atiuxpag.dll, 8.14.0001.6143 (English), 10/3/2010 13:24:36, 30208 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\atigktxx.dll, 8.14.0001.6143 (English), 10/3/2010 13:26:10, 19968 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\atiglpxx.dll, 8.14.0001.6143 (English), 10/3/2010 13:23:58, 12800 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\atiogl.xml, 10/3/2010 13:24:46, 21866 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\ATIODCLI.exe, 1.00.0000.0001 (English), 2/3/2009 15:52:06, 51200 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\ATIODE.exe, 1.00.0000.0001 (English), 2/18/2009 12:55:22, 332288 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\atiglpxx.dll, 8.14.0001.6143 (English), 10/3/2010 13:23:58, 12800 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\aticfx64.dll, 8.17.0010.1043 (English), 10/3/2010 13:26:09, 616960 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\aticfx32.dll, 8.17.0010.1043 (English), 10/3/2010 13:23:59, 528384 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\coinst.dll, 1.00.0002.0001 (English), 10/3/2010 13:24:11, 57344 bytes
  Driver: C:\Windows\system32\Difxapi.dll, 2.01.0000.0000 (English), 11/2/2006 07:22:14, 525792 bytes

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DirectShow Filters
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DirectShow Filters:
WMAudio Decoder DMO,0x00800800,1,1,,
WMAPro over S/PDIF DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMSpeech Decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
MP3 Decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
Mpeg4s Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
WMV Screen decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMVideo Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
Mpeg43 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
Mpeg4 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
Full Screen Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6002.18158
Multiple File Output,0x00200000,2,2,WMM2FILT.dll,
WMT Black Frame Generator,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
WMT Import Filter,0x00200000,0,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
DV Muxer,0x00400000,0,0,,6.06.6001.18000
Color Space Converter,0x00400001,1,1,,6.06.6002.18158
WMT Interlacer,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
WM ASF Reader,0x00400000,0,0,,11.00.6001.7000
Screen Capture filter,0x00200000,0,1,wmpsrcwp.dll,11.00.6001.7000
AVI Splitter,0x00600000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18158
VGA 16 Color Ditherer,0x00400000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18158
Microsoft MPEG-2 Video Decoder,0x005fffff,2,4,msmpeg2vdec.dll,11.00.6001.7110
AC3 Parser Filter,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.6002.18005
WMT Format Conversion,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
9x8Resize,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
StreamBufferSink,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.6001.18000
WMT Virtual Source,0x00200000,0,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
Microsoft TV Caption Decoder,0x00200001,1,0,MSTVCapn.dll,6.00.6001.18000
MJPEG Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18158
CBVA DMO wrapper filter,0x00200000,1,1,cbva.dll,6.00.6002.18242
MPEG-I Stream Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,,6.06.6002.18158
SAMI (CC) Parser,0x00400000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18158
VBI Codec,0x00600000,1,4,VBICodec.ax,6.06.6001.18000
MPEG-2 Splitter,0x005fffff,1,0,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.6002.18005
WMT AudioAnalyzer,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
Microsoft MPEG-2 Video Encoder,0x00200000,2,0,msmpeg2enc.dll,11.00.6002.18005
Stretch Video,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
Internal Script Command Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,,6.06.6002.18158
MPEG Audio Decoder,0x03680001,1,1,,6.06.6002.18158
DV Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,,6.06.6001.18000
Video Mixing Renderer 9,0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6002.18158
Microsoft MPEG-2 Encoder,0x00200000,2,1,msmpeg2enc.dll,11.00.6002.18005
Frame Eater,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
Allocator Fix,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
ACM Wrapper,0x00600000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18158
Video Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,,6.06.6002.18158
MPEG-2 Video Stream Analyzer,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.6001.18000
Capture ASF Writer,0x00200000,0,0,WMM2FILT.dll,
Line 21 Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,,
Video Port Manager,0x00600000,2,1,,6.06.6002.18158
Video Renderer,0x00400000,1,0,,6.06.6002.18158
Bitmap Generate,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
Proxy Sink,0x00200000,1,0,WMM2FILT.dll,
Proxy Source,0x00200000,0,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
WM ASF Writer,0x00400000,0,0,,11.00.6001.7000
VBI Surface Allocator,0x00600000,1,1,vbisurf.ax,6.00.6000.16386
WMT Sample Information Filter,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
File writer,0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6001.18000
DVD Navigator,0x00200000,0,3,,6.06.6002.18005
WMT DV Extract,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
Overlay Mixer2,0x00200000,1,1,,
Microsoft MPEG-2 Audio Encoder,0x00200000,2,0,msmpeg2enc.dll,11.00.6002.18005
WST Pager,0x00800000,1,1,WSTPager.ax,6.06.6001.18000
MPEG-2 Demultiplexer,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.6002.18005
Record Queue,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
DV Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18000
SampleGrabber,0x00200000,1,1,qedit.dll,6.06.6002.18005
Null Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,qedit.dll,6.06.6002.18005
WMT Log Filter,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
MPEG-2 Sections and Tables,0x005fffff,1,0,Mpeg2Data.ax,6.06.6001.18000
Microsoft AC3 Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,msac3enc.dll,11.00.6002.18005
WMT Virtual Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,WMM2FILT.dll,
StreamBufferSource,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.6001.18000
Smart Tee,0x00200000,1,2,,6.06.6001.18000
Overlay Mixer,0x00200000,0,0,,
AVI Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18158
WMT MuxDeMux Filter,0x00200000,0,0,WMM2FILT.dll,
NetBridge,0x00200000,2,0,netbridge.dll,6.01.6001.18000
AVI/WAV File Source,0x00400000,0,2,,6.06.6002.18158
WMT Volume,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
Wave Parser,0x00400000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18158
MIDI Parser,0x00400000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18158
Multi-file Parser,0x00400000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18158
File stream renderer,0x00400000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18158
WMT VIH2 Fix,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
Microsoft MPEG-1/DD Audio Decoder,0x005fffff,1,1,msmpeg2adec.dll,11.00.6001.7000
AVI Mux,0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6001.18000
Line 21 Decoder 2,0x00600002,1,1,,6.06.6002.18158
File Source (Async.),0x00400000,0,1,,6.06.6002.18158
File Source (URL),0x00400000,0,1,,6.06.6002.18158
Media Center Extender Encryption Filter,0x00200000,2,2,Mcx2Filter.dll,6.01.6002.18005
AudioRecorder WAV Dest,0x00200000,0,0,,6.00.6000.16386
AudioRecorder Wave Form,0x00200000,0,0,,6.00.6000.16386
SoundRecorder Null Renderer,0x00200000,0,0,,6.00.6000.16386
Infinite Pin Tee Filter,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18000
WMT Switch Filter,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
Enhanced Video Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,evr.dll,6.00.6002.18005
Uncompressed Domain Shot Detection Filter,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
BDA MPEG2 Transport Information Filter,0x00200000,2,0,psisrndr.ax,6.06.6002.18005
MPEG Video Decoder,0x40000001,1,1,,6.06.6002.18158

WDM Streaming Tee/Splitter Devices:
Tee/Sink-to-Sink Converter,0x00200000,1,1,,6.00.6001.18000

Video Compressors:
WMVideo8 Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMVideo9 Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
MSScreen 9 encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
DV Video Encoder,0x00200000,0,0,,6.06.6001.18000
MJPEG Compressor,0x00200000,0,0,,6.06.6002.18158

Audio Compressors:
WM Speech Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMAudio Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
IMA ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18158
PCM,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18158
Microsoft ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18158
GSM 6.10,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18158
CCITT A-Law,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18158
CCITT u-Law,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18158
MPEG Layer-3,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18158

Audio Capture Sources:
Microphone (VF0410 Live! Cam Vi,0x00200000,0,0,,6.06.6001.18000

Midi Renderers:
Default MidiOut Device,0x00800000,1,0,,6.06.6002.18158
Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth,0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6002.18158

WDM Streaming Capture Devices:
,0x00000000,0,0,,
,0x00000000,0,0,,
,0x00000000,0,0,,
,0x00000000,0,0,,
,0x00000000,0,0,,
,0x00000000,0,0,,
VF0410 Live! Cam Video IM Pro,0x00200000,1,2,,6.00.6001.18000
VF0410 Live! Cam Video IM Pro,0x00200000,1,1,,6.00.6001.18000

WDM Streaming Rendering Devices:
ATI HD Audio rear output,0x00200000,1,1,,6.00.6001.18000
Realtek HD Audio output,0x00200000,1,1,,6.00.6001.18000
Realtek HDA HDMI Out,0x00200000,1,1,,6.00.6001.18000

BDA Network Providers:
Microsoft ATSC Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.6000.16386
Microsoft DVBC Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.6000.16386
Microsoft DVBS Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.6000.16386
Microsoft DVBT Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.6000.16386
Microsoft Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSNP.ax,6.06.6002.18005

Video Capture Sources:
VF0410 Live! Cam Video IM Pro,0x00200000,1,2,,6.00.6001.18000

Multi-Instance Capable VBI Codecs:
VBI Codec,0x00600000,1,4,VBICodec.ax,6.06.6001.18000

BDA Transport Information Renderers:
BDA MPEG2 Transport Information Filter,0x00600000,2,0,psisrndr.ax,6.06.6002.18005
MPEG-2 Sections and Tables,0x00600000,1,0,Mpeg2Data.ax,6.06.6001.18000

BDA CP/CA Filters:
Decrypt/Tag,0x00600000,1,0,EncDec.dll,6.06.6002.18005
Encrypt/Tag,0x00200000,0,0,EncDec.dll,6.06.6002.18005
XDS Codec,0x00200000,0,0,EncDec.dll,6.06.6002.18005

WDM Streaming Communication Transforms:
Tee/Sink-to-Sink Converter,0x00200000,1,1,,6.00.6001.18000

Audio Renderers:
Speakers (Realtek High Definiti,0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6002.18158
Default DirectSound Device,0x00800000,1,0,,6.06.6002.18158
Default WaveOut Device,0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6002.18158
DirectSound: Realtek HDMI Output (Realtek High Definition Audio),0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6002.18158
DirectSound: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio),0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6002.18158
Realtek HDMI Output (Realtek Hi,0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6002.18158


Edit: Just FYI, it just stopped right after i did this posting (was checking on it periodically) so hopefully it'll last me abit...



Cvan -> RE: Cursor moving to upper left corner (4/17/2011 12:39:52 PM)

My cursor goes to upper right corner and I just start clicking like insane and it stops. Somehow clicking helped because once I left it to stop by itself but it didn't want to.



Carl4243 -> RE: Cursor moving to upper left corner (4/17/2011 2:02:26 PM)

i've had upper right corner only once on a small galaxy map before, oddly moving the mouse around in circles eventually fixed it i found, but that was the only case that it worked or went to the upper right side..  i normally like to play large galaxys and it always goes top left... clicking, moving, zooming in and out and bashing on the keyboard all dont help... half the time auto saving/quick save wont fix it either...

in some cases (doesnt work too often) only way to get the mouse back i find is if you click and hold then right click you get a ship menu, the mouse is freed up then, but the second you click and the menu goes away it goes back half a second later... if your fast you can click something before it does lol.  other one is locking the camera to a ship as someone mentioned, that also seems to work for doing stuff in the menu but when you break the ship lock it goes back to top left... sometime it undoes itself, but not often.



cookie monster -> RE: Cursor moving to upper left corner (4/17/2011 2:08:42 PM)

Ive had the bug too.

Not on my old laptop but on my brand new install desktop.

I ALT-TAB out of it and it stops.



Carl4243 -> RE: Cursor moving to upper left corner (4/17/2011 2:17:30 PM)

i'm havin the dam thing doing it right now (again for the 4th time) and i'm tabbed out to be typin this... it's still goin when i tab back in...

i got a dam pop up message just now for finding a rare resource while i was playing locked onto a ship to counter the scrolling. But now i cant lock onto anything nor pause the game cause i cant friggen close the message by pressing one of the button options.



cookie monster -> RE: Cursor moving to upper left corner (4/17/2011 2:21:46 PM)

you can also press space bar or pause key to pause



Carl4243 -> RE: Cursor moving to upper left corner (4/17/2011 2:23:38 PM)

i normally use space bar but it doesn't take effect when theres a pop up or menu open... also i cant hit the pause button :P

Edit: i managed to use the tab key to cycle the news thing (not sure why or how it got selected) so i pressed and held enter key to spamm the screen to a location, this gave me enough time to click the pop up away and pause the game... still have to stay locked to a ship cause it's still lovin that corner.



Carl4243 -> RE: Cursor moving to upper left corner (4/17/2011 4:55:56 PM)

as a note to helping solve this bug, i notice when being locked on another ship the mouse looks different, it's no longer the game image mouse but Windows Mouse... also when locked onto a ship and able to do things, i cant select a ship by clicking on it or get the drag box to select anything... as if the games mouse is still in the corner with the drag box.... but yet the games UI is still able to be used.



Carl4243 -> RE: Cursor moving to upper left corner (4/19/2011 6:26:07 PM)

well i have to stop playing my game now i guess... the extra large map i was playing, even when i shut it down and restart it a day later, is scrolling instantly when loaded up... it seems like it got stuck that way from either the save file or the longer load time could be a cause or a mix of both.

Can i get someone to comment on this so i know they have at least read and acknowledge the problem? this is not exactly an isolated issue, and is clearly something to do inpart with the game.



cookie monster -> RE: Cursor moving to upper left corner (4/19/2011 7:15:14 PM)

Are you using a wireless mouse?

I've had problems with them in some games. I had the mouse in corner of the screen in ROTS last night.

Perhaps you could try a direct wired mouse.



Carl4243 -> RE: Cursor moving to upper left corner (4/20/2011 2:17:10 AM)

ya, always wired, i dont trust wireless mouse or keyboards, plus i am on disability, so i'm always here playing my games... a wireless mouse/keyboard would keep dying on me lol.



cookie monster -> RE: Cursor moving to upper left corner (4/20/2011 2:19:13 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Carl4243

ya, always wired, i dont trust wireless mouse or keyboards, plus i am on disability, so i'm always here playing my games... a wireless mouse/keyboard would keep dying on me lol.


I just bought a fancy wireless mouse it's got a cable you can connect to a USB port to charge it up. It costs though. Otherwise I was using rechargeable batteries.



Carl4243 -> RE: Cursor moving to upper left corner (4/20/2011 8:38:37 AM)

meh, wired stuff have always done me good, wireless not so.

Really hope a dev or someone in the know can help me here, i Love this game and really want to enjoy it again! it's my Fav 4X game right now, Sword of the Stars being a close 2nd...i'm also using that Star Trek Mod, Which no cant be the cause as this happened before i got it also... i'm gonna try a complete re-install for the hell of it while i wait for something from someone... just gotta wait for new DL links since it's been awhile.



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