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VSWG -> Loading planes on AKV (10/2/2010 1:00:41 PM)

From the manual:

Air Group Special Load: Air Groups loaded onto an aircraft transport (an AKV, or CVE) are not
disabled on load, and will arrive at their destination in the same condition as when loaded.

I can't get this to work. As soon as I load an air group into an AKV, all planes become disabled. I tried to put the AKV in a cargo, transport, and air transport TF; docked as well as undocked. I can't tranfer the planes to the AKV via the air group screen either (as you can do when moving an air group on a CV), as the AKV doesn't show up in the "Pick destination ship" screen.

Does someone know how this works? Or is it a bug? Saves are available...



USSAmerica -> RE: Loading planes on AKV (10/2/2010 1:15:26 PM)

I'm pretty sure they display as disabled on the ship, but are not when they are unloaded at the destination.



Itdepends -> RE: Loading planes on AKV (10/2/2010 1:18:46 PM)

I don't know the answer- I haven't done this yet.

But when trying to transfer the groups from the air group screen- have you tried the transfer to docked ship?- and is your air transport/transport task force docked?



VSWG -> RE: Loading planes on AKV (10/2/2010 2:18:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Itdepends

But when trying to transfer the groups from the air group screen- have you tried the transfer to docked ship?

Yes.

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and is your air transport/transport task force docked?

Yes.

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ORIGINAL: USS America

I'm pretty sure they display as disabled on the ship, but are not when they are unloaded at the destination.

OK, I will be able to check this in a couple of PBEM turns.

Thanks for the replies. [:)]



witpqs -> RE: Loading planes on AKV (10/2/2010 5:52:44 PM)

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ORIGINAL: USS America

I'm pretty sure they display as disabled on the ship, but are not when they are unloaded at the destination.


Yup.

BTW, Don Bowen also confirmed that the size of the ship matters. E.g. if it's a big squadron of big planes on a small AKV they might need to get loaded 'as cargo' (meaning not ready) just to fit.



Schanilec -> RE: Loading planes on AKV (10/4/2010 11:14:50 PM)

They tend to be disabled because they have been disassembled for shipping and then reassembled at the port of distination. Right?



bradfordkay -> RE: Loading planes on AKV (10/5/2010 1:28:08 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Schanilec

They tend to be disabled because they have been disassembled for shipping and then reassembled at the port of distination. Right?



On normal cargo ships, yes - but not with AKVs which are special aircraft transport ships. On AKVs your squadron will unload at the destination port in fully assembled mode. I believe that they are listed as "disabled" while on the ship so that there is no chance that the program will try to fly them during the voyage...



Schanilec -> RE: Loading planes on AKV (10/5/2010 4:10:46 PM)

Even twin and four engine on an AKV fully assembled?



witpqs -> RE: Loading planes on AKV (10/5/2010 4:19:22 PM)

AKV is made for it. But it must be large enough (and larger planes take up more space), sorry I don't know the formula.



Dobey455 -> RE: Loading planes on AKV (10/6/2010 1:09:30 PM)

Can you fly the A/C off the AKV to the destination Airbase when you get close?



Smeulders -> RE: Loading planes on AKV (10/6/2010 1:13:47 PM)

No, AKV have no flightdecks. 



Sardaukar -> RE: Loading planes on AKV (10/6/2010 2:33:52 PM)

[image]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/56/USSKittyHawkAKV1.jpg/466px-USSKittyHawkAKV1.jpg[/image]



Photo #80-G-73394 USS Kitty Hawk (then APV-1) (on right) transfers an F4F-4 to USS Long Island (CVE-1) in August of 1942.

Commissioned: 26 November 1941 as APV-1 (Transport and Aircraft Ferry) Reclassified: AKV-1 (Aircraft Transport), 15 September 1943



VSWG -> RE: Loading planes on AKV (10/6/2010 10:32:30 PM)


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ORIGINAL: bradfordkay

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ORIGINAL: Schanilec

They tend to be disabled because they have been disassembled for shipping and then reassembled at the port of distination. Right?



On normal cargo ships, yes - but not with AKVs which are special aircraft transport ships. On AKVs your squadron will unload at the destination port in fully assembled mode. I believe that they are listed as "disabled" while on the ship so that there is no chance that the program will try to fly them during the voyage...

I checked, and a squadron of medium bombers has just unloaded undamaged from an AKV. Nice feature...



Lecivius -> RE: Loading planes on AKV (10/6/2010 10:47:21 PM)

Man, you guys amaze me sometimes.  To be able to pull, out of the ethernet, a picture of an APV in operation to answer a question....

I stand impressed [&o]



stuman -> RE: Loading planes on AKV (10/7/2010 3:45:58 AM)

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BTW, Don Bowen also confirmed that the size of the ship matters.



Boy have I heard that before .....



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