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billyjj -> RE: Invasion of Japan (10/10/2010 11:33:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Doggie

Gee, Lutzlow, Should I apologize because The Glorious Third Reich ended because of ".American interference"? Aint gonna happen. I volunteered to defend Germany against a fascist regime just as bad as the Third Reich, but I aint gonna apologize for goosesteepers like you who think National Socialism was a good thing.

And it's only jungen like you don't appreciate how lucky they were to be in the American sector after the war. Like I said, in 1973 my money was no good in just about any bierhall in Bavaria. Not the same for your pals from France and Russia. Of course I never hated Germans like you hate Americans. The way I see it, there were plenty of decent people in Germany worth saving.


Being stationed in Germany during the 70s was about the best and easiest thing that could happen to you.. please spare us the horrible discrimination stories, you were having a blast down in munich drinking with the fraulines.



Doggie -> RE: Invasion of Japan (10/10/2010 11:35:42 PM)


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ORIGINAL: warspite1


Please tell me where on these forums (or any other) I have ever been anti-American.



Nothing anti American about cheerleading for goofballs who want to see the United States reduced to a banana republic and send me private messages about how I should convert to Islam.

Thanks, pal. With friends like you, who needs terrorists?



Lützow -> RE: Invasion of Japan (10/10/2010 11:39:53 PM)

Doggie,

actually I like the US and also have American friends here in Germany. However, I won't bother answering your boneheaded insults. Consider yourself ignored for the future.



Doggie -> RE: Invasion of Japan (10/10/2010 11:52:53 PM)

Bone heased insults?

Read your own words:

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You conceal the fact that without American land lease we probably kicked the Sovjets into oblivion and even if not, Germany had been still able to enforce a stalemate in '44, without fighting Normandy invasion at the same time. It was previous US interference which made later US protection neccessary.



Sounds pretty clear to me that you resent the United States for defeating the Third Reich. Es tut mir lied, Herr Sturmforumfuhrer. You needs to get in touch with S'aak. He can tell you where the next nazi party meeting will be held. Seems like Nazis are just crawling out of the woodwork around here.



Endsieg -> RE: Invasion of Japan (10/10/2010 11:55:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lützow

You conceal the fact that without American land lease we probably kicked the Sovjets into oblivion and even if not, Germany had been still able to enforce a stalemate in '44, without fighting Normandy invasion at the same time. It was previous US interference which made later US protection neccessary.

OMG, and nochmals OMG, alter [8|].
No friend of the Soviets, but to speculate on kicking them into oblivion and enforcing a stalemate in '44, as if that might have been a good thing.
And then insinuating US protection in the dark ages of the Cold War was a necessary consequence of NOT beating the Soviet hordes into a stalemate?

Sorry, I've attended too many a Sunday service in the Frauenkirche, Dresden to believe you really understood your statement, alter.



axisandallies -> RE: Invasion of Japan (10/10/2010 11:58:12 PM)

which of the two where really the greater evil?



axisandallies -> RE: Invasion of Japan (10/11/2010 12:00:03 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Doggie

Bone heased insults?

Read your own words:

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You conceal the fact that without American land lease we probably kicked the Sovjets into oblivion and even if not, Germany had been still able to enforce a stalemate in '44, without fighting Normandy invasion at the same time. It was previous US interference which made later US protection neccessary.



Sounds pretty clear to me that you resent the United States for defeating the Third Reich. Es tut mir lied, Herr Sturmforumfuhrer. You needs to get in touch with S'aak. He can tell you where the next nazi party meeting will be held. Seems like Nazis are just crawling out of the woodwork around here.

Es tut mir lied? really, this is how you feel?



jomni -> RE: Invasion of Japan (10/11/2010 12:24:56 AM)

Anyway, what's done is done.  And because of the result of WW2, we have a Japan that is pacifist, technologically advanced, and with a cool pop culture.
We won't have these without the A-Bomb and their loss in WW2.



Endsieg -> RE: Invasion of Japan (10/11/2010 12:30:54 AM)


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ORIGINAL: jomni

And because of the result of WW2, we have a Japan that is pacifist, technologically advanced, and with a cool pop culture.

huh?...i think you meant to say a lame and pedophile porno culture



Lützow -> RE: Invasion of Japan (10/11/2010 12:41:22 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Endsieg

OMG, and nochmals OMG, alter [8|].
No friend of the Soviets, but to speculate on kicking them into oblivion and enforcing a stalemate in '44, as if that might have been a good thing.
And then insinuating US protection in the dark ages of the Cold War was a necessary consequence of NOT beating the Soviet hordes into a stalemate?

Sorry, I've attended too many a Sunday service in the Frauenkirche, Dresden to believe you really understood your statement, alter.


Do you want to insinuate that, from a German perspective, it was the better thing to loose Barbarossa? Sorry, I grew up in Westberlin with the wall all around and learned to dislike the commies already before I even could spell 'politics'.

Anyway, my assertion here was that US participation contributed decisively to war result and made later troop deployment during cold war neccessary. That can be considered as a fact and is not meant to be offending in any way. If my former response sounded harsh, it was due to Doggies pestering tone, but I green-buttoned him now.



Endsieg -> RE: Invasion of Japan (10/11/2010 1:15:48 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lützow
Do you want to insinuate that, from a German perspective, it was the better thing to loose (lose) Barbarossa? Sorry, I grew up in Westberlin with the wall all around and learned to dislike the commies already before I even could spell 'politics'.

I lived in West Berlin 82-89, I visited for the first time in 1963 right after Kennedy's visit, I buried grandparents in West Berlin, one parent was fed by the American-Brit Airlift 48-49.

Dont tell me about the Wall, i pissed on it; Dont tell me that Germany should have/could have won Barbarossa if only the Americans hadnt interfered with their LendLease shipments to the commies. Should the Americans have started WWIII on Aug 13, 1961 ? Or was it better to play chess and finally beat them in 1989?



billyjj -> RE: Invasion of Japan (10/11/2010 1:18:01 AM)

For all you anti-commies just be lucky hitler held them off as long as he could,.. 



hgilmer3 -> RE: Invasion of Japan (10/11/2010 1:27:22 AM)


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ORIGINAL: billyjj

For all you anti-commies just be lucky hitler held them off as long as he could,.. 


As an American of Polish descent, I don't see one whit of difference between Stalin or Hitler. They both brutalized Poland.



SLAAKMAN -> RE: Invasion of Japan (10/11/2010 1:55:11 AM)

Swampmutt,
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Sounds pretty clear to me that you resent the United States for defeating the Third Reich. Es tut mir lied, Herr Sturmforumfuhrer. You needs to get in touch with S'aak. He can tell you where the next nazi party meeting will be held. Seems like Nazis are just crawling out of the woodwork around here.

Swampmutt's mushy brain is cantakerous as usual. According to him anyone who questions the simpleton, Winners History/Establishment version of WWII must be a nazi. He's Godwins Law on steroids.
Im an American and I deeply resent the notion of American & European Christians mauling each other & their children over putrid Freemason/Mystic ideologies such as Nazism or Communism. Swampmutt's tiny neuron cant comprehend that so he can wallow with the piggies in the mud for all I care. Nananananana! [:'(]



SLAAKMAN -> RE: Invasion of Japan (10/11/2010 1:57:04 AM)

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Dont tell me about the Wall, i pissed on it; Dont tell me that Germany should have/could have won Barbarossa if only the Americans hadnt interfered with their LendLease shipments to the commies. Should the Americans have started WWIII on Aug 13, 1961 ? Or was it better to play chess and finally beat them in 1989?

No the whole world shoulve made Freemasonry illegal in 1776. That wouldve prevented global cataclysm for more than 200 years. [:D][:'(]



ilovestrategy -> RE: Invasion of Japan (10/11/2010 2:12:54 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Endsieg


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ORIGINAL: jomni

And because of the result of WW2, we have a Japan that is pacifist, technologically advanced, and with a cool pop culture.

huh?...i think you meant to say a lame and pedophile porno culture



Uh no. I lived in Japan with a Japanese family and was immersed in their life and culture. They were never lame and pedophiles. This is not 2nd hand information. I was there. I lived there. I experienced the modern way of Japanese life.

I saw first hand their pacifist nature, technologically advanced society, and cool pop culture.



NefariousKoel -> RE: Invasion of Japan (10/11/2010 4:38:48 AM)


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ORIGINAL: SLAAKMAN
No the whole world shoulve made Freemasonry illegal in 1776. That wouldve prevented global cataclysm for more than 200 years. [:D][:'(]



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warspite1 -> RE: Invasion of Japan (10/11/2010 7:21:36 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Doggie


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ORIGINAL: warspite1


Please tell me where on these forums (or any other) I have ever been anti-American.



Nothing anti American about cheerleading for goofballs who want to see the United States reduced to a banana republic and send me private messages about how I should convert to Islam.

Thanks, pal. With friends like you, who needs terrorists?

Warspite1

Clearly this is pointless - I thought you may have bothered to read what I have said before making accusations against me. But you are clearly not interested in finding out the facts before you insult people; either you are too lazy or too stupid to bother with facts. Don't get me wrong, now I know the measure of you I dont care who you are or what you think, but for the record, in case any of your lazy accusations are believed by other posters:

- I am not anti-American
- I have not supported any anti-American stance on these forums - I have nothing but praise for the US in WWII - see the previous debates in the General Discussion forum, my posts on WITPAE and MWIF.
- I am certainly not a fascist like you stated on a previous post - and by the way that is a hugely insulting thing to say - my parents fought for my country against the fascists in WWII - my dad in the army, my mum as an auxiliary nurse.

I shall simply ignore you in future - other than to ensure I report you whenever I see you spread your filthly remarks that over step common decency boundaries on this forum. And just to stop feeding your ridiculous paranoia - that goes for any such remarks from anybody - regardless of which side of the politcal fence they sit.

Have a nice life.




SireChaos -> RE: Invasion of Japan (10/11/2010 9:32:48 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Doggie


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ORIGINAL: warspite1


Please tell me where on these forums (or any other) I have ever been anti-American.



Nothing anti American about cheerleading for goofballs who want to see the United States reduced to a banana republic and send me private messages about how I should convert to Islam.

Thanks, pal. With friends like you, who needs terrorists?


Do you ever actually bother reading what other people write? Or are you so stoned on your patriotism that the magical patriot pixies tell you everything you need to know about the rest of the world?


Dear rest of the US, please accept my sympathy for all those times when people think that blowhards like Doggie are typical for the US. Some of us know better.



RyanCrierie -> RE: Invasion of Japan (10/11/2010 1:04:07 PM)

A little something for all the USAF Special Weaponeers who assembled, loaded and armed the devices we so love:

How you assemble and load an atomic bomb

This is a webpage I put up with about 4 MB of photos. So 56K die. You'll notice that Little boy and Fat man switch back and forth in the photos; but this is because that's what the collection I found at NARA was like.

But you'll be able to get an idea of how they loaded them from this.



Lützow -> RE: Invasion of Japan (10/11/2010 1:20:12 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Endsieg

I lived in West Berlin 82-89, I visited for the first time in 1963 right after Kennedy's visit, I buried grandparents in West Berlin, one parent was fed by the American-Brit Airlift 48-49.

Dont tell me about the Wall, i pissed on it; Dont tell me that Germany should have/could have won Barbarossa if only the Americans hadnt interfered with their LendLease shipments to the commies. Should the Americans have started WWIII on Aug 13, 1961 ? Or was it better to play chess and finally beat them in 1989?


We're a bit belligerent, no? [8|]

You obviously missed my point and I never said the US should have launch an attack in 1961.



Erik Rutins -> RE: Invasion of Japan (10/11/2010 1:36:47 PM)

Thread locked, I will return to this one as well as time allows to see if any other action is required.



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