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yangym -> Is there a change? (in AE version) (10/13/2010 8:06:51 AM)

I bought witp (not ae) several years before and got bored.
Because there is cheat level tactics, (for example hiding all CV and deploy all dive bomber and fighters in land base)
The enemy automatically run into my land base and their battleships and carriers are all annihilated.
Stupid AI!!!
When I found this, I lost my interest in witp.

Now I bought AE version newly and applied v1.01.06g Official Update.

Is that tactics still works?





Cavalry Corp -> RE: Is there a change? (in AE version) (10/13/2010 8:23:58 AM)

Others will reply...

In AE ,its a brave new world and I doubt that even worked in WITP.

I would say there is no point in playing the AI , you need a human opponent.

Cav




jomni -> RE: Is there a change? (in AE version) (10/13/2010 9:34:07 AM)

Your tatctic will still work against AI but not as effective with all the airfield restrictions.
But I cannot image how can you not use CV's in an offensive campaign?
Deffensive, I can understand. Late in the war, that's the tactic the Japanese must use when their carriers don't stand a chance against the might of the USN.




Cavalry Corp -> RE: Is there a change? (in AE version) (10/13/2010 12:43:07 PM)

Without being cheeky it could be said playing the AI is a bit of a cheat in itself

Did not mean any offense by that...:)

Think of a good PBEM opponenbt as an super AI that takes a long time to do a turn -

Cav




Torplexed -> RE: Is there a change? (in AE version) (10/13/2010 1:11:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: yangym
Stupid AI!!!


Careful. You might hurt it's feelings.

The AI in the AE is much improved over the Witp version. It's now more of a sparring partner than just a punching bag.

But it'll never be Rocky Balboa or Apollo Creed. [;)]




topeverest -> RE: Is there a change? (in AE version) (10/13/2010 2:40:25 PM)

Yangym,

Fire up a PBEM and hold on to your lug nuts.




Misconduct -> RE: Is there a change? (in AE version) (10/13/2010 3:24:25 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Torplexed


quote:

ORIGINAL: yangym
Stupid AI!!!


Careful. You might hurt it's feelings.

The AI in the AE is much improved over the Witp version. It's now more of a sparring partner than just a punching bag.

But it'll never be Rocky Balboa or Apollo Creed. [;)]



for those of a younger generation (no offense sir) its no Brock Lesner, or Hulk Hogan!





ckammp -> RE: Is there a change? (in AE version) (10/13/2010 3:41:15 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Misconduct


quote:

ORIGINAL: Torplexed


quote:

ORIGINAL: yangym
Stupid AI!!!


Careful. You might hurt it's feelings.

The AI in the AE is much improved over the Witp version. It's now more of a sparring partner than just a punching bag.

But it'll never be Rocky Balboa or Apollo Creed. [;)]



for those of a younger generation (no offense sir) its no Brock Lesner, or Hulk Hogan!





Didn't Hulk Hogan fight (and lose to) Rocky?




Misconduct -> RE: Is there a change? (in AE version) (10/13/2010 3:49:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ckammp


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ORIGINAL: Misconduct


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ORIGINAL: Torplexed


quote:

ORIGINAL: yangym
Stupid AI!!!


Careful. You might hurt it's feelings.

The AI in the AE is much improved over the Witp version. It's now more of a sparring partner than just a punching bag.

But it'll never be Rocky Balboa or Apollo Creed. [;)]



for those of a younger generation (no offense sir) its no Brock Lesner, or Hulk Hogan!





Didn't Hulk Hogan fight (and lose to) Rocky?


I am not sure, I know he lost to Mr. T once and Apollo Creed.




terje439 -> RE: Is there a change? (in AE version) (10/13/2010 7:29:21 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Torplexed

But it'll never be Rocky Balboa or Apollo Creed. [;)]



You mean going all out offense and ignoring the defense??? [:D]

Terje




Torplexed -> RE: Is there a change? (in AE version) (10/14/2010 1:24:41 AM)


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ORIGINAL: terje439


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ORIGINAL: Torplexed

But it'll never be Rocky Balboa or Apollo Creed. [;)]



You mean going all out offense and ignoring the defense??? [:D]

Terje


I like to think of Japan as Rocky. Forget about winning or losing. You just wanna go the distance against the guy in the Uncle Sam shorts. [:D]




Torplexed -> RE: Is there a change? (in AE version) (10/14/2010 1:28:22 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ckammpDidn't Hulk Hogan fight (and lose to) Rocky?


Rocky III featured an exhibition fight early in the movie between Hulk Hogan (as a wrestler named "Thunderlips") and Rocky. It ended in a draw.




jomni -> RE: Is there a change? (in AE version) (10/14/2010 1:36:25 AM)

The AI is also a cheater so it's all fair game.




YankeeAirRat -> RE: Is there a change? (in AE version) (10/14/2010 2:16:50 AM)

The AI doesn't cheat. It just able to read the the dice rolls and plan accordingly.




janh -> RE: Is there a change? (in AE version) (10/14/2010 9:29:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: jomni
The AI is also a cheater so it's all fair game.


Hmmh, sounds logic at first, but then would you also pour salt on a bad cake -- 'cause it tastes bad anyway?




terje439 -> RE: Is there a change? (in AE version) (10/14/2010 10:41:44 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Torplexed

I like to think of Japan as Rocky. Forget about winning or losing. You just wanna go the distance against the guy in the Uncle Sam shorts. [:D]



Somehow I do not think that Japan can turn it all around in -45 by simply shouting "Adriaaan" [:D]

Terje




Terminus -> RE: Is there a change? (in AE version) (10/14/2010 11:14:12 AM)

The AI does not cheat, unless you play on higher difficulty levels. Lets not spread any other rumours.




morganbj -> RE: Is there a change? (in AE version) (10/14/2010 1:59:43 PM)

No, it just uses different rules. [8|]




whippleofd -> RE: Is there a change? (in AE version) (10/14/2010 10:23:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: bjmorgan

No, it just uses different rules. [8|]



But if you go into the battle knowing what the rules are ahead of time.... is that really cheating?

Whipple




Shark7 -> RE: Is there a change? (in AE version) (10/14/2010 10:26:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Terminus

The AI does not cheat, unless you play on higher difficulty levels. Lets not spread any other rumours.


Yep, it just does exactly what it is told to do. But at higher levels it doesn't have to follow the same set of rules as the player.

Never met an AI that didn't operate by its own rules though...only way to make an AI competative.




jomni -> RE: Is there a change? (in AE version) (10/15/2010 2:43:00 AM)

So you mean all restrictions imposed on the Player is also imposed on the AI in normal level?
I always thought they broke the rules even on normal.




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