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Rob Brennan UK -> RE: Nice one indeed... (12/4/2010 3:08:50 PM)
2 more strikes , one on 2 BB's in open water and minumal CAP (2 float planes) B25's miss again. 2nd was vs AP's unloading at oosthaven with NO cap ! .. and every flipping bomber missed AGAIN! , this is getting annoying. We had torp bombers at batavia just for these BB's .. what happened ? did they come in under escort ? no .. did they die horribly? yes. arghhhh . 2 survived to make attack runs but being heavily disrupted even skills over 70 missed. [image]local://upfiles/7467/B4ADE7BE7CBA4395856C90FB6D7B4035.jpg[/image]

Rob Brennan UK -> RE: Nice one indeed... (12/4/2010 3:15:54 PM)
6 Beauforts went for the same target , 2 zeros left on CAP , wish the albacores had arrived 2nd [:(] as all bombers made it through but once again 0 hits ! This cheeky little attack is i suspect the last one .. and all bar 2 bombers made it through at the cost of the escorts. BB Hyuga again missed along with several other ships. Once again ALL MISSED. what am i doing wrong here ? low level nav is below 5k alt yes ? set to 4 k bombing and skills 60+ really should hit something stationary and unloading. Does missed rhyme with pissed ! .. hummm .. [image]local://upfiles/7467/1A05B66AA1294B38B88853022725348F.jpg[/image]

Rob Brennan UK -> RE: Nice one indeed... (12/4/2010 3:21:13 PM)
KB hit batavia again and sank every ship in port. Good think soerbaja has been cleared out , even the AS originally there is operating at an isolated base now. The full power of KB is awesome at this stage of the war , its a truly terryfying weapon. [image]local://upfiles/7467/B7DA0078C9584DD8AEDFAEBC82A4FD7A.jpg[/image]

LoBaron -> RE: Nice one indeed... (12/4/2010 3:24:36 PM)
I think what played an additional role was the bad weather. The attacks were under either Thunderstorms or Severe storms, that could have hurt the chance for a lucky hit.

Rob Brennan UK -> RE: Nice one indeed... (12/4/2010 3:31:21 PM)
The final tally . Time to lick our wounds and think again. This is war and we all know S%i^ happens in war [;)] [image]local://upfiles/7467/09F16B8D86084E3B84B8C9E44CE2A628.jpg[/image]

LoBaron -> RE: Nice one indeed... (12/5/2010 8:48:04 AM)
While Japan is busy doing the "I can destroy the Royal Dutch Airforce in one day" thing, a small window of oportunity opened up for us sneaky US of A. [;)] On day two of the invasion of Java KB revealed her position (not that the indicators weren´t already quite obvious before) between Borneo and southern Sumatra, so we decided to shoot at something that is not supposed to shoot back. To be more clear, Yorktown and Enterprise moved between northern Honshu and southern Hokkaido to sink some. They did, although the raid was hampered by bad weather, so no AM phase was flown, cutting the potentially dropped presents to half. Still there was at least the small pleasure of destroying Japanese assets and return the favour they are doing to our Allies at Java. I am under no illusions that many of the targets will sink, every single target ship was in a port hex, but the ones that were hit by 2 1000pdrs will still have to roll a good dice one or the other time. Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Hakodate at 119,53 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 15 minutes Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 11 SBD-3 Dauntless x 13 No Allied losses Japanese Ships xAK Hokkai Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire xAK Calcutta Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires xAK Hiteru Maru, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Sikisan Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Hirosaki/Aomori at 118,54 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid spotted at 26 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 10 minutes Allied aircraft SBD-3 Dauntless x 12 Allied aircraft losses SBD-3 Dauntless: 5 damaged Japanese Ships xAK Chicago Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire xAK Taian Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire xAK Hokusei Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage xAK Italy Maru Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Ominato at 119,54 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 15 minutes Allied aircraft F4F-3 Wildcat x 8 SBD-3 Dauntless x 13 No Allied losses Japanese Ships xAK Nitiho Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Mantai Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires xAK Gyoko Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Uga Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Sapporo at 120,51 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid spotted at 21 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 8 minutes Allied aircraft SBD-3 Dauntless x 13 No Allied losses Japanese Ships xAK Tihuku Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire xAK Seizan Maru xAK Syoto Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires xAK Nanko Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage Other news is that NZ now got more bang. 4 weeks after its departure a large convoy arrived in Auckland unscrached, containing lots of shiny stuff for either Noumea, Fiji, or both. Considering that Japanese ressources will be bound to the Java operation this naturally favours some quick decisions, but well, the next days will show how fast we really are. Auckland is not SF and this convoy is a monster. Will take a few days-

Rob Brennan UK -> RE: Nice one indeed... (12/8/2010 8:17:47 PM)
OOPS ! 2 torp hits , along with ammo explosion followed by fuel explosion and a glug glug noise .. end of US raid to the marshalls. Japans oozing down Jave and up sumatra. [image]local://upfiles/7467/47F4FF95C41F498DB074527EBC34D848.jpg[/image]

LoBaron -> RE: Nice one indeed... (12/8/2010 10:55:58 PM)
That definitely hurt. The original plan was to raid the Marshall Islands, now I am not sure. This is the situation: Now got 3 CV´s (originally 4 were intended for the raid) ready to dash into the Marshalls. Thats a bit few for real comfort. I want to escort strikes in case there is CAP over the islands, so potential CAP over the carriers would be about 50 fighters. The problem is that this could be just too few to fend of a dedicated escorted Netty attack. Hornet is ready to go in PH, but I would have to wait for the escorts, which are currently upgrading. I might have just enough in 2 days to send her to Wake island to join her sisters. But this means that as a whole the operation would be delayed about 5-6 days and KB finished her work on Java 4 days ago. Considering that I have no idea where Mike will send his carriers of doom next, a time loss of 5-6 days could mean the difference between a successful raid and a CV battle that happens much too early for my taste. Third option naturally would be to take a deep breath, cancel the raid, send the CV´s back to Pearl and wait for a new opportunity. Which would most probably be the wise thing to do... [8\|] Damnit, this game is always hardest when all you want is revenge. [;)]

witpqs -> RE: Nice one indeed... (12/8/2010 11:30:37 PM)
The other thing is that they now have location on your carriers...

LoBaron -> RE: Nice one indeed... (12/8/2010 11:43:10 PM)
That aint so bad as Mike only knew the location of one group (Yorktown/Enterprise, now only Enterprise) as they were on a raid against Japan and bombed Marcus Island on the way south in the hope of getting one of those pesky AVs. He is -hopefully- not aware of the second group with Saratoga and Lady Lex which is now in position to join up with Enterprise. My reasoning is that he is not afraid of a single US CV to wreck much of a havoc, and I expected him to be prepared in the Marshalls anyway. Still at the moment I tend to call it a day, dutifully wait for the June upgrades and play good boy. Losing one fleet CV is bad enough, risking more could unneccesarily extend the supremacy of KB. Marshalls have 2 pumped up Netty squads IIRC, if he upgraded the fighters there he might also have a couple of Zeros. Too much risk with the small early ´42 fighter outfits of the US CVs I think.

LoBaron -> RE: Nice one indeed... (12/10/2010 6:04:07 PM)
Ok the breaking news is that the RN avenged the demise of Yorktown on May 10, 42, but the master of desaster in person should have the honour of telling about this battle, so no details from me. [X(][sm=00000622.gif] The other CV´s should be ok, but it seems the area west of Pearl is infested with subs (probably some of them in transit). They will meet with CV Hornet and their oilers SW of pearl and then proceed to cover the reinforcement operations for Noumea and Suva, and help increase the general defenses of the area. At least one should be ready soon to defend itself at least for some time. Auckland is bristling with units from the convoy arrival and the ships are made ready for small amphib shuttle runs to get troops and light aircraft to both locations. It will not hold against a major invasion yet but if Mike wants to take them while calculation close to the limit he will be welcome to try. IF the units get there. IF.

LoBaron -> RE: Nice one indeed... (12/10/2010 6:14:22 PM)
And before I forget. US long range subs without working torps are really shortening my life expectancy. Bad for your blood pressure when you have to watch something like this: Submarine attack near Marcus Island at 123,85 Japanese Ships AV Kiyokawa Maru Allied Ships SS Pike AV Kiyokawa Maru is sighted by SS Pike SS Pike launches 4 torpedoes *PLOINCK!* Submarine attack near Marcus Island at 123,85 Japanese Ships AV Kiyokawa Maru Allied Ships SS Pike AV Kiyokawa Maru is sighted by SS Pike SS Pike launches 4 torpedoes *PLOINCKPLOINCK!* Submarine attack near Marcus Island at 123,85 Japanese Ships AV Kiyokawa Maru Allied Ships SS Pike AV Kiyokawa Maru is sighted by SS Pike SS Pike launches 4 torpedoes Third spread missed completely. Probably with the single working torpedo... [sm=Christo_pull_hair.gif] A DD is now trying to accomplish what the sub was unable to but its perfectly possible that it will be too late for the party. A hop from Wake takes a bit.

Rob Brennan UK -> RE: Nice one indeed... (12/11/2010 9:52:54 PM)
Revenge time ! Allied SCTF steams into Batavia harbour and has a few encounters to say the least ! AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 10, 42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Batavia at 49,98, Range 2,000 Yards Japanese Ships DMS W-10, Shell hits 7, and is sunk Allied Ships CA Cornwall CA Exeter CL Sumatra CL De Ruyter CL Tromp CL Enterprise CL Danae CL Dragon CL Mauritius DD Pope DD Whipple DD Van Ghent Next up Day Time Surface Combat, near Batavia at 49,98, Range 19,000 Yards Japanese Ships SC CHa-4, Shell hits 1, and is sunk SC CHa-11, Shell hits 1, and is sunk SC CHa-12, Shell hits 1, and is sunk Allied Ships CA Cornwall CA Exeter CL Sumatra CL De Ruyter CL Tromp CL Enterprise CL Danae CL Dragon CL Mauritius DD Pope DD Whipple DD Van Ghent and now to the days main event ! this was made even worse afterwards by allied subs pickig off some lone damaged Ak's/Ap's in the region too. Day Time Surface Combat, near Batavia at 49,98, Range 18,000 Yards Japanese Ships TB Hato, Shell hits 9, and is sunk TB Kiji, Shell hits 9, and is sunk PB Tomozono Maru #3, Shell hits 2, and is sunk PB Aso Maru #3, Shell hits 11, and is sunk PB Eifuku Maru, Shell hits 15, and is sunk PB Taiko Maru, Shell hits 21, and is sunk xAK Kogane Maru, Shell hits 8, and is sunk PB Marei Maru, Shell hits 18, and is sunk xAK Teimei Maru, Shell hits 4, on fire xAK Liverpool Maru, Shell hits 9, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Malta Maru, Shell hits 11, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Sinkyo Maru, Shell hits 10, and is sunk xAK Asaka Maru #3, Shell hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Syoryu Maru, Shell hits 2, on fire xAK Anzan Maru #2, Shell hits 8, and is sunk xAK Bingo Maru, Shell hits 5, heavy fires xAK Ryuzin Maru, Shell hits 1, on fire xAK Yoneyama Maru, Shell hits 3 PB Tatebu Maru, Shell hits 15, and is sunk xAK Kinrei Maru, Shell hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage xAP Asama Maru xAP Hakusan Maru, Shell hits 9, heavy fires, heavy damage xAP Dairen Maru, Shell hits 9, and is sunk xAP Hoten Maru, Shell hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage xAP Tsingtao Maru, Shell hits 6, heavy fires xAP Taizan Maru, Shell hits 21, and is sunk xAP Keihuku Maru, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk xAP Ussuri Maru, Shell hits 18, and is sunk xAP Ural Maru, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk PB Yodozo Maru, Shell hits 24, and is sunk Allied Ships CA Cornwall, Shell hits 1 CA Exeter, Shell hits 2 CL Sumatra, Shell hits 1 CL De Ruyter, Shell hits 1 CL Tromp CL Enterprise, Shell hits 1 CL Danae CL Dragon, Shell hits 1 CL Mauritius, Shell hits 1 DD Pope DD Whipple DD Van Ghent Japanese ground losses: 10971 casualties reported Squads: 240 destroyed, 100 disabled Non Combat: 283 destroyed, 396 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 296 (180 destroyed, 116 disabled) Vehicles lost 259 (125 destroyed, 134 disabled) [image]local://upfiles/7467/4CA30C0DB5F4477C8207CB94AE490C7B.jpg[/image] Not all one sided though as we bumpbed into some heavy hitters on the way out (my mistake as i put soerbaja as home port NOT back to christmas island) .. this what getting greedy causes (only soerbaja can load CA ammo) .. Day Time Surface Combat, near Batavia at 50,98, Range 17,000 Yards Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses No Allied losses Japanese Ships BB Mutsu BB Yamato, Shell hits 5 CA Mikuma, Shell hits 7 CA Suzuya, Shell hits 3 CA Kumano, Shell hits 4 CL Kitakami, Shell hits 3 CL Oi, Shell hits 7, on fire DD Kazegumo DD Makigumo DD Kuroshio DD Maikaze DD Tokitsukaze DD Nowaki DD Arashi, Shell hits 1 DD Hagikaze DD Tanikaze DD Asashio DD Arashio, Shell hits 1, heavy fires Allied Ships CA Cornwall, Shell hits 32, and is sunk CA Exeter, Shell hits 25, on fire CL Sumatra, Shell hits 7, heavy fires CL De Ruyter, Shell hits 2, on fire CL Tromp, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk CL Enterprise, Shell hits 4, on fire CL Danae, Shell hits 17, heavy fires, heavy damage CL Dragon, Shell hits 12, heavy fires, heavy damage CL Mauritius, Shell hits 6 DD Pope, Shell hits 5, and is sunk DD Whipple, Shell hits 25, and is sunk DD Van Ghent, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk Allies strike back with a deadly sub attack .. CL Oi sinks ! Submarine attack near Batavia at 49,97 Japanese Ships CL Oi, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage Allied Ships SS KXVIII Thw British CV's were 3-4 hexes away from the yamato but bad weather in the morning caused them to stay on board , come the afternoon the Yamato had sailed out of range but we did find one AK (damaged) and the BB Hyuga ! Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Batavia at 50,97 Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid spotted at 33 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 19 minutes Allied aircraft Albacore I x 7 Fulmar II x 10 Allied aircraft losses Albacore I: 2 damaged Japanese Ships DD Minegumo BB Hyuga, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage Next Day we sent in 3 SCTF with 2 BB's each vs tjiljap /batavia and the other place .. i was hopeing to catch the ~Hyuga inbatavia before she disbanded .. and we DID ! Night Time Surface Combat, near Batavia at 49,98, Range 10,000 Yards Japanese aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses No Japanese losses Japanese Ships BB Hyuga, Shell hits 12, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk CA Maya, Shell hits 3, on fire Allied Ships BB Revenge BB Royal Sovereign CL Dauntless, Shell hits 1 DD Edsall DD Stuart DD Vampire, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk Poor old vampire got unlucky and the Jap CA sailed off without a scratch but we did get the main protagonist .. no other engagements today , but the dutch AF continues to die horribly and still cannot hit anything on the seas , killed a few tanks so not all bad.

Rob Brennan UK -> RE: Nice one indeed... (12/13/2010 8:17:21 PM)
May 18th 1942 Daily Mail OUTRAGE as japanese forces attack hospital ships on relief duty near sumatra ! the murderous japanese sank the liner Manoora and killed over 200 medical personell including 160 nurses. Japan gets a measure of revenge hitting a fast AP convoy west of sumatra retiring from cocos islands. This wasn't realy unexpected but the alternative was to return via cape town and i didnt want the delay, in hindsight i should have done. the BB Royal soverign ate a torp in the morning phase but she is hardly dented. the brit CV's are almost in ceylon and should be fine. We have set all surviving ships to various ports at full speed ahead and try and out run the KB. While hopeing that Offense man isnt brave enough yet to get close to colombo. Given we could run east to sabang as the closest port i'm hopeing he'll try and catch me there as i have no ships heading in that direction. One upside to this is (i would imagine) he is utterly unaware of my build up at cocos islands and the presence of 2 RN BB's still there [;)]. As i have 0 fighter cover at Cocos they will rely on stealth (cough , cough) to escape detection. As it is , RAF forces in sri lanka are woefully low/crap .. i just hope he doesnt realise this and close up the range. Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Sabang at 30,70 Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid detected at 33 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 13 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 27 B5N1 Kate x 12 B5N2 Kate x 11 D3A1 Val x 27 Japanese aircraft losses D3A1 Val: 1 damaged Allied Ships xAP Lancashire, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage AMC Kanimbla, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Hotspur AMC Manoora, Bomb hits 8, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk xAP Moreton Bay xAP Aquitania, Bomb hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage [image]local://upfiles/7467/A5BC36FBA14B43C8B5F71356ACA512E8.jpg[/image]

Rob Brennan UK -> RE: Nice one indeed... (12/15/2010 11:40:12 AM)
18th May 1942 quote: The USN CChester gets a posthumous medal as unluckiest ship on the high seas today, the same sub attackedA 3 times and finally sank her south of Noumea. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 18, 42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Isle of Pines at 117,162 Japanese Ships SS I-10 Allied Ships CA Chester SS I-10 launches 6 torpedoes I-10 diving deep .... Sub escapes detection -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Isle of Pines at 117,162 Japanese Ships SS I-10 Allied Ships CA Chester, Torpedo hits 1 SS I-10 launches 6 torpedoes Sub escapes detection -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Submarine attack near Isle of Pines at 117,162 Japanese Ships SS I-10 Allied Ships CA Chester, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage CA Chester is sighted by SS I-10 SS I-10 launches 6 torpedoes Tha AVG was posted to changsha today and did very very well vs some decently escorted raids today, only one japanese formation was encountered without escorts vs 6 with Oscar cover. fortunately the P40B with great drivers can eat Oscars for lunch. Stood down tomorrow as i suspect japan will go through a weeks air reorganising as has been par for the course in the past when they had heavy losses. Over in burma Offenceman has alluded to some secret japanese plan/buildup . given my recon coverage and uninterupted heavy bombing of the imperial guards and the 1st Thai regiment i don't see much changing on his side. On ours however the 7th? aussie division has just arrived in mandalay and has been ordered forward to engage with british armour and some burmese volunteers. I'm hopeing that we can retake magwe and base adjacent while routing the japanese out of the clear terrain in burma. once he moves hi airforce in en-mass however i doubt we can hold it but this advance was never envisaged anyway its just an opportunity to put the hurt on japan where and when we can. air losses mostly over china, the 4 seagulls on the ground ?? no idea. [image]local://upfiles/7467/BA00A3D8DA1C4ABBA28166A0915CBD83.jpg[/image]

LoBaron -> RE: Nice one indeed... (12/15/2010 3:58:17 PM)
The 4 Seagulls where the unlucky planes having a very bad day on CA Chester. [;)] At this phase of US advance into Noumea and the Fijis you cannot safeguard against such situations. Took the risk, lost, time to move on. At least I now slowly getting a clearer picture of the Japanese sub dispositions which now seem to try to harrass Noumea and Suva. There is at least 8-9 boats in the area so a combined effort by air and sea will be needed to keep them in check. As I am trying to secure those bases fast future losses cannot be avoided but the first steps are aleady in the making, like light ASW forces to both locations and a Marauder squad to Noumea, to minimise them.

Rob Brennan UK -> RE: Nice one indeed... (12/15/2010 6:36:42 PM)
This is becoming habit forming ! AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 20, 42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Submarine attack near Pamekasan at 58,106 Japanese Ships SS I-153 Allied Ships CA Exeter, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage CA Exeter is sighted by SS I-153 SS I-153 launches 8 torpedoes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Submarine attack near Banjoewangi at 57,107 Japanese Ships SS I-158 Allied Ships CA Exeter, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage GLUG GLUG CA Exeter is sighted by SS I-158 SS I-158 launches 8 torpedoes Exeter had just finished fixing up emergengy flooding in soerbaja and fear of imminent air attack made her captain (me) nervous, so a night excape on cruise speed to broome was ordered . started out 52/7/0 . also lost 2 main gun turrets to japanese battleship fire a week earlier. Also in Java , japanese bomb soerbaja airfields at will and nobble a few transports and search a/c , the bombers were off raiding jap tank units trying to take Tjiljap on the javanese west coast. We held for 2 more days but i suspect japan will resume fighter cap over this tomorrow so we wont be bombing it again. Ground combat at Tjilatjap (51,102) Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 1023 troops, 0 guns, 183 vehicles, Assault Value = 91 Defending force 1068 troops, 10 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 31 Japanese adjusted assault: 29 Allied adjusted defense: 25 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), fatigue(-), experience(-) Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-) Allied ground losses: 126 casualties reported Squads: 2 destroyed, 11 disabled Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 5 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Assaulting units: 4th Tank Regiment 7th Tank Regiment Defending units: 5th Coastal Gun Battalion Pontianak Base Force Real news happened in china , Japan has unhinged the SW defences , time for a tactical withdrawl. Japanese air power has been huge down here for weeks on end and its telling finally. We will be trying to stay in woods where possible and therefore abamndon luchow ? but what about Wuuchow to the south ? only got token forces there but it has strategic resources and factories, its also still connected by trail to the main chinese lines. Think we'll stay here for 2 reasons , make him come and take it by force and 2) hopefully distract his af for a few days. [image]local://upfiles/7467/C02B90EDA48D464980CDC7BDB28B7C4E.jpg[/image] Ground combat at 73,55 Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 12904 troops, 122 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 424 Defending force 4918 troops, 52 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 126 Japanese adjusted assault: 594 Allied adjusted defense: 49 Japanese assault odds: 12 to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), experience(-) Attacker: shock(+) Japanese ground losses: 348 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 24 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 16 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Allied ground losses: 2097 casualties reported Squads: 85 destroyed, 8 disabled Non Combat: 91 destroyed, 17 disabled Engineers: 2 destroyed, 1 disabled Units retreated 3 Defeated Allied Units Retreating! Assaulting units: 24th Division Defending units: 64th Chinese Corps 62nd Chinese/A Corps 16th Group Army

LoBaron -> RE: Nice one indeed... (12/16/2010 11:19:50 AM)
Agree 100%. No need to leave and have built the forts for nothing. Let him come and take it. Worst thing that could happen is that you lose the units. The only point against that would be if you lack the forces to stall him again, and I don´t think the Wuchow garrison would make a difference. I think the same applies for Kukong, though I wonder if the two garrisons should be merged to defend Wuchow only...

Alfred -> RE: Nice one indeed... (12/16/2010 1:14:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LoBaron ...I think the same applies for Kukong, though I wonder if the two garrisons should be merged to defend Wuchow only... IMHO, the rough rule of thumb in China is that other than at Chungking, Changsha and Sian, a Chinese garrison of more than 3 Corps will exceed the available food supplies at the base. Alfred

LoBaron -> RE: Nice one indeed... (12/16/2010 1:22:29 PM)
As always valuable info, thanks Alfred.

LoBaron -> War Status Report Jun 09 42 (12/30/2010 12:39:52 PM)
So, since the war is currently more or less static I´d like to give you a small statusupdate on the current situation of the US/NZ side with a focus on the areas of interest: US CV: Since a sub got lucky SE of Wake and finished of Yorktown with just 2(!!) torps I am very carful with the remaining flattops. 2 are right now runnig through their June upgrades and the others are docked at Pearl. Currently I consider using them for fast Air transport of several bomber and fighter groups to Auckland, not sure if this is a good idea but they don´t have anything to do right now except waiting for the group size increase and also for Wasp. KB on the other hand should be now close to max strenght and Mike is a bit more careful announcing its position, so no free raiding at the moment, and I don´t want to risk collecting another torpedo salvo anyway. NorthPac: Here we are doing a slow, quiet crawl along the Aleuthians without air cover. I am trying to avoid getting Mikes attention here as long as the chain lacks fallback positions to the east. The furhtest exposed base is Adak Island, which received a Inf Brigade and Arty yesterday, support units will follow soon. I wont progress much further here until I am able to fast-construct airbases along the chain, the first SeaBees are already training for the area. The plan here is simple: Steady buildup with low value forces as long as Japan remains strong. In case Mike totally ignores this area it will grow into an offensive platform to threaten the Kuriles and finally mainland Japan. South/SouthWestPac: For me basically the areas overlap and I don´t have any intention to change that. Auckland has received a fine ammount of troops now and many of them have been shuttled to Noumea and the Fidjis. The current frontline bases are Noumea/Koumac, with Koumac relying heavily on Australian support and Noumea bristling with US/USMC troops (although bristling is still a bit on the optimistic side). Fidjis received one Marine Regiment and more is on the way, I opted for a deep defense in this area consisting of a triangle with Vavau being the main base behind the two islands of Pago Pago and Suva. The advantage of this is as soon as the distribution is finished I can run in troops to Vavau to both northern bases in case of an invasion and provide mutual support from there. Wake: Interesting, Mike has left the Island in peace now. In my opinion this is a mistake. The island has received no reinforcements up to now but I am really considering to do so. Both the MarineDef unit and the BF are at full strnght and I have 20000+ suplies there. No air as if Mike thinks the island is no threat then I wont spoil him until I made up my mind about reinforcing. If I can shuttle another unit of raiders there and maybe some additional arty this will mean the return of th Catalinas to the island. And if Mike really does nothing tho threaten the base it will be in a position where it can treaten the reinforcement of Kwalein Islands and develop into a sub base which will relive Midway of the job because Wake is located closer to potential hunting grounds. Other news, but its Robs job to talk about details: China is slowly starving, I wonder if this is realated to the Chinese troops being forward deployed, but I don´t see much of an alternative here. Frontline is stable though and Rob is doing a great job keeping any japanese advances at bay. Java is split into the Japanese north and the still Dutch south, this will change soon though as Mike is advancing fast. Burma is Robs masterpiece at the moment. Mike already stated that the Burmese front reminds him of the Africa campaign, because of the changing luck in battle. Rob was able to hold Mandalay and even did a small expedition to the south although this resulted in a gutted Indian division. Still, I am enjoying every battle replay there simply because thats where the knife fight is taking place. Thats it for now. Happy new year, and may 2012 be a good year for everybody except Mikes troops... [:D]

Rob Brennan UK -> RE: War Status Report Jun 09 42 (1/2/2011 7:43:31 PM)
Happy new year from the war office in London (quite literally last week[;)]). Senior MOD staff dropped by for advice and of course the legendary hospitality (if you have the right ration cards ). Well Burma - the situation has reversed utterly since the last pictures , allied expeditionary force was bushwhacked by the japanese in Magwe and 11th indian div was badly treated. Frontline is back in Mandalay but the better news is japan withdrew from Lashio (im guesing because of terrible supply and constant allied bombing) Small burmese forces have re taken the area and 3-4 independant regiments (Indian) are slowly heading there while 11th Div (the battered one) rails from mandaly to stop any weak japanese grabs. Supply in burma is pretty bad too with nowhere without a yellow or red mark on it ! Drawing supply doesnt seem to help so im filling up the forward indian bases by pulling in supply with the hope that when i drop thier demand but up birmas the escess will flow across the jungle (a bit) supply losses are irrelevant as india is burgeoning with supply and fuel. Sadly in the air , allied command 'forgot' to send orders to the bombers to stand down and 80 ! blenhiems were lost over magwe with 6 wellies and 4 liberators .. OUCHIE.. that was me forgetting or being complacent. The much reduced fighter arm (due to withdrawls) will aim for revenge by heavily sweeping magwe next turn. Java . fortress Madeoin has finally been spotted by japanes forces and is being bombed daily , with 80k+ supply and AV over 1500 iirc we should hold out here for a while. This also stopped the jap bombing of christmas island so we will try and get some more supply in there (10k atm) and use it as base for harassing his shipping around Java. Madeoin can do this too with L5 AF's but depending on bombing and operational runways. Main fleet moved from cocos islands due to horrible refuelling problems and 2 BB's reside in Darwin with 3DD escort . Target or threat to japan ? yet to be discovered. The CV fleet with its 1st withdrawl due in 30 days is sailing south from Colombo with heavy surface forces to see if we can find some raiding oportunities in the DEI. I'll not deliberatly risk the CV's but might as well use them as they wont be back till 44 ! CW DD's have sunk 2 jap subs around christmas island and south java so far so we will keep 4DD's in cocos to harass his subs spotting and supply interdictions. Overall June July is a terrible time for the non US forces as withdrawls (esp of a/c) are killing me in CW areas. China , holding. Kukong is ok with suply even with 5-6 corps arty and AT units. Most other bases are in the yellow at best and even the forward stacks are starting to show supply problems (none at 0 yet but slowly decreasing). I'm guessing kukongs supply is being helped from Wuchow to the west which still has operating industry and a tiny garrison. AVG is pulling out for Burma missions untill it has to go too ! America will get some really really good pilots for its pools once the AVG disbands. The chinese AF will try and disrupt japans training with left over H41's and Lancers. Alfred :- Thanks for the tip but even with every transport i have (dutch chinese/USA/CW) lifting in supply from Ledo china is dropping slowly but surely. Japan comstant bombarding is imo causing this but Japan must be using up supply like sweets in this theatre. I just hope it comes back and haunts him at a later date. Piccies to come and apologies for the long overdue update.

Rob Brennan UK -> RE: War Status Report Jun 09 42 (1/2/2011 11:57:09 PM)
15 + 16 June 1942 Burma .. RAF fighters get a measure of revenge over the japanese airforce in Magwe, We are not going down quietly in this part of the world. given Offencemns form he will most likely move his AF out next turn so i will send in the heavy bombers to help KO the oil there and keep the sweeps up (hurricane 1's will be withdrawn for upgrades). Japan has dozens of AA gun units here so alt will be high, lysanders from mandalay do keep the place under constant recon however (likewise B25 recons keep an eye on rangoon for low jap fighters to hit there with the heavies) [image]local://upfiles/7467/2A8486B86EFF4DEC947D5994BFDF0C19.jpg[/image]

Rob Brennan UK -> RE: War Status Report Jun 09 42 (1/3/2011 12:29:22 AM)
Over in china Japan makes a move on the weakest section of the outlying sian defence perimiter and really pays a heavy price even after some massive air to ground attacks (thankfully we are in a wooded hex , not by accident [;)]). Ground combat at 87,41 Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 69594 troops, 600 guns, 177 vehicles, Assault Value = 2443 Defending force 30391 troops, 137 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1123 Japanese adjusted assault: 2666 Allied adjusted defense: 1837 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), fatigue(-), experience(-) Attacker: shock(+) Japanese ground losses: 10216 casualties reported Squads: 73 destroyed, 496 disabled Non Combat: 40 destroyed, 460 disabled Engineers: 13 destroyed, 50 disabled Vehicles lost 26 (4 destroyed, 22 disabled) Allied ground losses: 3461 casualties reported Squads: 8 destroyed, 220 disabled Non Combat: 10 destroyed, 219 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled Assaulting units: 15th Division 35th/B Division 59th Infantry Brigade 41st Division 3rd Ind.Mixed Brigade 110th Division 35th/A Division 27th Division 35th/C Division North China Area Army Defending units: 93rd Chinese Corps 43rd Chinese Corps 61st Chinese Corps 80th Chinese Corps 5th New Chinese Corps 8th Group Army 1st War Area 34th Group Army given the 1-1 day 2 was a bit of a nailbiter as japan can usually make up the odds but they did not this time. Ground combat at 87,41 Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 62472 troops, 600 guns, 176 vehicles, Assault Value = 1952 Defending force 34319 troops, 184 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1206 Japanese adjusted assault: 1933 Allied adjusted defense: 1978 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), experience(-) Attacker: shock(+) Japanese ground losses: 6591 casualties reported Squads: 55 destroyed, 186 disabled Non Combat: 84 destroyed, 202 disabled Engineers: 5 destroyed, 14 disabled Allied ground losses: 2670 casualties reported Squads: 10 destroyed, 132 disabled Non Combat: 18 destroyed, 175 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled Unusually this attck really favoured the chinese defenders , wheter this is because of his constant attacks (in this hex and previously) the chinese experience is 55 ish and they can now weather heavy combat. but whatever the reason destroyed units really favoured the chinese , we have 300 move AV heading to here anyway as it was the weakest sector with more from sian as a backstop just in case. Japanese air raids were the usualy hideaous affairs with more escorts than i have planes ! Morning Air attack on 80th Chinese Corps, at 87,41 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 5 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-21-Ic Sally x 115 Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 60 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 66 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled even an invigorated chinese AF cant cope with this , Offenseman does not give us many opportunities for easy air combats over china anymore. As i referred to last post Wuchow is still operating , japan suddenly seems to have noticed and i suspect thier planes are new trainees. I'm suprised Wuchow has lasted this long at all with 1/3rd of a weak corp guarding it , but the industry was worth keeping imo as long as possible. Morning Air attack on 62nd Chinese/C Corps, at 76,57 (Wuchow) Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid spotted at 24 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 6 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-21-IIa Sally x 3 Ki-30 Ann x 29 Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 14 Ki-48-Ib Lily x 6 Ki-49-Ia Helen x 22 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 38 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Thats all for today , Ill show you Java next turn and explain the last bastion defences there. [image]local://upfiles/7467/45362BF683174013B2D5BB1371AE7130.jpg[/image]

LoBaron -> RE: War Status Report Jun 09 42 (1/11/2011 7:25:16 PM)
Jun,27,42: The Battle between BC Repulse and I-165. May the commander of the sub rest in peace. Honorable duel. o> I-165 put two torpedoes in two separate attacks on target. These turns are the reason why WitP AE is my favourite game. [sm=duel.gif] SS I-165 launches 4 torpedoes at BC Repulse (one torpedo hits amidships) I-165 diving deep .... DD Inconstant fails to find sub, continues to search... DD Inconstant fails to find sub, continues to search... DD Inconstant attacking submerged sub .... DD Inconstant cannot establish contact with SS I-165 DD Inconstant fails to find sub, continues to search... DD Inconstant attacking submerged sub .... SS I-165 eludes DD Inconstant by hugging bottom SS I-165 forced to surface! BC Repulse firing on surfaced sub .... Sub slips beneath the waves

Rob Brennan UK -> RE: War Status Report Jun 09 42 (1/11/2011 8:41:51 PM)
Now for a picture any Japanese sub commander would really really hate [:D] Sorry for lack of updates , just either not much has happened or so much has (china) that i have no idea whats going on there ?????. [image]local://upfiles/7467/C2AEAF1628E1449FA59A8DD7A55A9B92.jpg[/image] This sub torpedoed the Repulse on her way to bombard batavia .. Sub attack near Oosthaven at 46,97 Japanese Ships SS I-165, hits 4 Allied Ships BC Repulse, Torpedo hits 1 CL Dauntless DD Inconstant DD Isis The Repulse did as ordered with little result , the 2 CA's showing up in port according to recon were false (as expected tbh). Night Naval bombardment of Batavia at 49,98 Japanese aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed on ground Allied Ships BC Repulse CA Devonshire CL Capetown CL Dauntless Japanese ground losses: 165 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 12 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 14 disabled Airbase hits 20 Airbase supply hits 7 Runway hits 141 Still the runways i wanted to shut down so the Brit Cv's lurking nearby were not atacked by netties , The japanese hadnt moved any in in hindsight. the Brit CV's were hopeing to have a go at palambang or batavia but were spotted early and i ran like a girl away from trouble. Still more :- BC repulse was again torpedoed on the way back to Cocos islands .. Sub attack near Oosthaven at 46,97 Japanese Ships SS I-165, hits 13, and is sunk Allied Ships BC Repulse, Torpedo hits 1 DD Inconstant The DD forced the sub to the surface and the rest is shown by the piccie .. one DEAD sub with 3 15 inch shell holes in her [;)] TTFN

LoBaron -> RE: War Status Report Jun 09 42 (1/11/2011 9:15:56 PM)
That was a cool battle to watch. [:D] Good to see you are pulling back north to the Changsha area. If I was Mike I´d opt for a river crossing between the city and Kweilin if I am able to break through that far. What do you think about light defense behind the river, most of all the wood hex?

Rob Brennan UK -> RE: War Status Report Jun 29 42 (1/12/2011 8:36:42 PM)
I'm going to try and hold the river , even in 'open' cities , not much forts there and i've moved a lot of men out of changsha west to help the line. Kukong was indefinsible so moved north a few days ago .. it'll be a nasty journey but necessary. I'm going to try and shorten supply routes a bit all over china as the supplies just arent getting thrugh in places , less wastage can only be a good thing. also had to cancel the airlift and Ledo is supplying mandalay siege defenders , japan made a couple of odd bombardments and the allied artillery made him hurt badly there , but i don't like the look of the AV one bit. Ground combat at Mandalay (59,46) Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 63843 troops, 664 guns, 214 vehicles, Assault Value = 2550 Defending force 52146 troops, 795 guns, 1238 vehicles, Assault Value = 1636 Japanese ground losses: 1208 casualties reported Squads: 7 destroyed, 76 disabled Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 37 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 8 disabled Guns lost 11 (2 destroyed, 9 disabled) Allied ground losses: 15 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled) Japan hold the air here for now as the brits had to retire to calcutta for new a/c . the fighters will be back in 2 days. also out of java the dutch AF had been hitting japanese AK's in palembang and some AMC's hard off borneo , lownav and 1000ft works ! thank you forums. 3 AMC's sunk/damaged and about 6-8 AK/L's elsewhere. I have a cunning plan in java too . the dutch armour is moving out of its 'nest' in madeoin as we only face 500 AV vs our 1000. and we can go galloping round java being really annoying esp if he hasnt garrisoned batavia properly. [image]local://upfiles/7467/05F64926DA74450F934537DBA8C36078.jpg[/image]

helmseye -> RE: LoBaron + Robbrennan vs Offenceman, allied secret AAR (1/13/2011 11:33:57 AM)
do you have an idea of what lend lease is made available over the coming months? by the way hello Rob Richard

LoBaron -> RE: LoBaron + Robbrennan vs Offenceman, allied secret AAR (1/14/2011 11:11:13 AM)
Welcome helmseye. Lend lease? Don´t know what that is. Must be some Atlantic Warfare Fairy tale. In the Pacific I need my DD´s same as Rob does. And he is already dropping stuff in burma from my precious B17s, thats about as much lend I am ready to bear. [:'(] Ok for me it got a bit more interesting last turn, as Mike showed up with KB 160miles NE of Pago Pago. The carriers have been detected before already, thank you Catalina drivers, and so the damage was not to bad. Loss tally is 1AP, 2AMC (these hurt a bit), a DMS, a couple of AKLs and an ACM. Since the true backbone of the area is Vavau he is free to bomb the hell out of places like PP if he wants, and Vavau at least got some sub par fighter cover (18 F3A, 18 Buffaloes and 25 P40E). Theairfield is sadly still not big enough to make offensive action an option but I got surface combatants lead by a CA there and hope for a night intercept A bit more critical is the huge distance the KB is able to travel in two days while raiding. The big question now is: will he proceed south? If yes, where are his reppers? And if no, will he turn back north or west? I have a stomach feeling that since the Carriers were very fast last turn they do not have a replenishment fleet with them, which shortens his list of options but makes him cover more distance. So my best guess is he will either go back north, or move to the west, attack the Fijis and Noumea and then complete the circle back to Truck. Anybody got experience with the operational radius of KB without tankers and the closest bases either Kwaleinn or Rabaul?

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