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gfanikf -> Need help looking for a good Age of Rifles successor (2/23/2011 10:28:31 PM)

Hi, I'm a long time fan of PC wargaming, but I really haven't played in a long time. I'm looking for a good Age of Rifles successor. The game covered such a wide period of conflict and had hundreds if not thousands of scenarios done for it ranging from Colonial English Wars, Napoleon, Africa, the Opium Wars, the Ludlow Massacre, and lots of fictional ones too.

I'm just looking for a game that is the closest thing to a spiritual successor to Age of Rifles (as I've for rights reasons there will most likely be never be a sequel) with a good number of user created scenario base. I've noticed an Age of Muskets game made by Matrix, but I don't know if it covers more than the Napoleonic Era.

Thanks!



Yogi the Great -> RE: Need help looking for a good Age of Rifles successor (2/23/2011 10:32:16 PM)

Gee, this post looks familiar - wonder where it might lead to?



gfanikf -> RE: Need help looking for a good Age of Rifles successor (2/23/2011 10:36:01 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Yogi the Great

Gee, this post looks familiar - wonder where it might lead to?


I do something wrong? [&:]



Yogi the Great -> RE: Need help looking for a good Age of Rifles successor (2/23/2011 10:39:54 PM)


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ORIGINAL: gfanikf


quote:

ORIGINAL: Yogi the Great

Gee, this post looks familiar - wonder where it might lead to?


I do something wrong? [&:]


Not necessarily - many spammers start off in similar fashion is all.
Try these from HPS if serious

- Napoleonic Battles -
NAPOLEON'S RUSSIAN CAMPAIGN
CAMPAIGN ECKMUHL
WAGRAM
WATERLOO JENA-AUERSTAEDT


- Early American Battles -

1812
1776
FRENCH & INDIAN WAR
MEXICAN WAR


- American Civil War -
CORINTH
OZARK
FRANKLIN
SHILOH
PENINSULA
GETTYSBURG
VICKSBURG
ATLANTA
CHICKAMAUGA
ANTIETAM
CHANCELLORSVILLE

- Musket & Pike -

RENAISSANCE




gfanikf -> RE: Need help looking for a good Age of Rifles successor (2/23/2011 11:02:18 PM)

Cool. How user friendly would you say most HPS titles are? I took at a look at some of the screenshots, but it's hard to gauge difficulty from just that.



ilovestrategy -> RE: Need help looking for a good Age of Rifles successor (2/24/2011 12:16:32 AM)

Now I'm missing Age of Rifles. That game rocked.



gfanikf -> RE: Need help looking for a good Age of Rifles successor (2/24/2011 12:59:49 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ilovestrategy

Now I'm missing Age of Rifles. That game rocked.

I finally got it working on Dosbox (had a little trouble mounting the CD Rom), so much fun. I just love how it covers such a wide range of history and locations.



Hertston -> RE: Need help looking for a good Age of Rifles successor (2/24/2011 1:58:39 AM)

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ORIGINAL: gfanikf

How user friendly would you say most HPS titles are?


Very (as wargames go), and once you've learned your way around one you'll have no trouble with the others. Just don't expect eye candy (although the 2D maps aren't bad). You won't find many user scenarios, though.. the Tiller HPS games were designed NOT to be any sort of construction kit. The flip side is that most games come with a very generous selection of scenarios as long as you don't mind them being centred around variations, historic and otherwise, of the same campaign. Gettysburg has nearly three hundred!

To be honest, though, although I was also a big fan of AoR, things have moved on. I would strongly recommend at least taking a look a couple of real time titles (by which I mean real time, not 'RTS'!), Histwar: Les Grognards and Scourge of War: Gettysburg before taking the plunge - both have demos. Both also offer a much more realistic command experience than the HPS games, although they lack the campaign scale.





jomni -> RE: Need help looking for a good Age of Rifles successor (2/24/2011 2:52:52 AM)

But there is still nothing that comes close to AOR!
All titles mentioned so far are focused on specific eras and don't have as much custimzation and scenario building options as AOR.
AOR is like a wargame construction set.



diablo1 -> RE: Need help looking for a good Age of Rifles successor (2/24/2011 4:11:42 AM)


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ORIGINAL: jomni

But there is still nothing that comes close to AOR!
All titles mentioned so far are focused on specific eras and don't have as much custimzation and scenario building options as AOR.
AOR is like a wargame construction set.


Wasn't that part of it's title Wargame Construction Set III:Age of Rifles?



Hertston -> RE: Need help looking for a good Age of Rifles successor (2/24/2011 4:29:15 AM)

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ORIGINAL: jomni
But there is still nothing that comes close to AOR!
All titles mentioned so far are focused on specific eras and don't have as much custimzation and scenario building options as AOR.
AOR is like a wargame construction set.


We know, but he can't buy a game that doesn't exist!



sabre1 -> RE: Need help looking for a good Age of Rifles successor (2/24/2011 5:04:23 AM)

Field of Glory. They will get around to AOR era sometime.



jomni -> RE: Need help looking for a good Age of Rifles successor (2/24/2011 5:14:38 AM)


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ORIGINAL: diablo1
Wasn't that part of it's title Wargame Construction Set III:Age of Rifles?


Oh you may be right!



diablo1 -> RE: Need help looking for a good Age of Rifles successor (2/24/2011 5:48:25 AM)

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ORIGINAL: jomni


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ORIGINAL: diablo1
Wasn't that part of it's title Wargame Construction Set III:Age of Rifles?


Oh you may be right!




may be? MAY BE?! ........ http://www.mobygames.com/game/wargame-construction-set-iii-age-of-rifles-1846-1905

[:)]



diablo1 -> RE: Need help looking for a good Age of Rifles successor (2/24/2011 5:50:28 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Hertston

quote:

ORIGINAL: jomni
But there is still nothing that comes close to AOR!
All titles mentioned so far are focused on specific eras and don't have as much custimzation and scenario building options as AOR.
AOR is like a wargame construction set.


We know, but he can't buy a game that doesn't exist!



It doesn't??? http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&keywords=Wargame%20Construction%20Set%20III&tag=mobygames&index=videogames&link_code=qs



Phatguy -> RE: Need help looking for a good Age of Rifles successor (2/24/2011 2:02:06 PM)

Age of Rifles

I see there are at least three PC magazines to stay away from if you want a honest opinion.......They probably use the same talent pool to get their reviewers from, the ritalin-overdosed pimple faced 12 year olds who dont understand anything that doesnt include the term RTS in in......

pc gamer uk 65
pc player  60
pc  games 41

I think the only thing they did was try to read the manual and they got confused by something longer than 3 pages.....



Obsolete -> RE: Need help looking for a good Age of Rifles successor (2/24/2011 3:43:22 PM)

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Now I'm missing Age of Rifles. That game rocked.


This seems to be one of the titles that slipped through the cracks on me.




ilovestrategy -> RE: Need help looking for a good Age of Rifles successor (2/24/2011 4:06:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Obsolete

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Now I'm missing Age of Rifles. That game rocked.


This seems to be one of the titles that slipped through the cracks on me.




I freaking loved that game. It came and went really fast, never did figure out why it disappeared from the world so quick.



Adraeth -> RE: Need help looking for a good Age of Rifles successor (2/24/2011 4:48:41 PM)

AOR was really the "Steel Panthers" for XIX century, a real diamond



Obsolete -> RE: Need help looking for a good Age of Rifles successor (2/24/2011 5:15:05 PM)

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It came and went really fast, never did figure out why it disappeared from the world so quick.


Hmm, I see Norm Koger was behind it. Perhaps there was too much of a BLACK-BOX hidden behind the scenes to keep interest? :P

Or maybe the players just switched to TOAW a couple years later.  Around that time, there was a lot of competition in the wargaming scene.





Hertston -> RE: Need help looking for a good Age of Rifles successor (2/25/2011 8:50:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: diablo1

It doesn't??? http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&keywords=Wargame%20Construction%20Set%20III&tag=mobygames&index=videogames&link_code=qs


Of course Age of Rifles exists! [8|]

The OP was asking for the
quote:

closest thing to a spiritual successor to Age of Rifles



Hertston -> RE: Need help looking for a good Age of Rifles successor (2/25/2011 8:59:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: apathetic lurker

I see there are at least three PC magazines to stay away from if you want a honest opinion.......They probably use the same talent pool to get their reviewers from, the ritalin-overdosed pimple faced 12 year olds who dont understand anything that doesnt include the term RTS in in......

pc gamer uk 65
pc player  60
pc  games 41



Add PC Zone (UK). I still remember one from years ago where they reviewed a certain tank sim, saying "it would be more realistic to walk around the garden looking through a drainpipe" and scoring 18%. The game? Steel Beasts.

Some have a decided bias against particular genres, too. I do enjoy 'adventure' games from time to time, and every time a really decent one comes along with great puzzles and storyline Gamespot will score it 4.5, and declare it's games like this that killed the genre. They've been doing that for the last decade and, oddly enough, it's still there..



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