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MilRevKo -> How to judge a cut off cities supply lvl (3/27/2011 2:15:27 PM)

Leningrad January 1, 1942


I have had Leningrad cut from the rail line in its present position for 10 turns. Can any one help explain how the supplies for Leningrad work. I have bombed the cities manpower and it sits at 65% damage.


Will the city eventually run out of supply? The Soviet flies supplies to each hex when they can.


thanks in advance

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Pipewrench -> RE: How to judge a cut off cities supply lvl (3/27/2011 2:37:59 PM)

Leningrad is being supplied by a 1 port you have not taken to the north east of your position. the port of Swiriiza has a direct rail link east and keeps Leningrad supplied.

this is why you see the right hook strategy used sometimes to cut that rail link to that port thus isolating Leningrad.
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*Lava* -> RE: How to judge a cut off cities supply lvl (3/27/2011 3:32:56 PM)

Interesting position... been there before.

Perhaps if you bombed the port it could make life a lot more difficult for the Soviets.



PeeDeeAitch -> RE: How to judge a cut off cities supply lvl (3/27/2011 4:28:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lava

Interesting position... been there before.

Perhaps if you bombed the port it could make life a lot more difficult for the Soviets.


-edit- just checked in the 42 scenario. The ports are size 0 and can't seem to be targeted.



Joel Billings -> RE: How to judge a cut off cities supply lvl (3/27/2011 5:35:14 PM)

Actually, that seems to be a bug. The system was probably not originally set up to target towns that didn't have at least 1 population. We'll get that on the bug list.



PeeDeeAitch -> RE: How to judge a cut off cities supply lvl (3/27/2011 5:41:17 PM)

Maybe something to disallow anyway. Isolating Leningrad would be far, far easier if those ports can be shut down remotely...it would potentially fall two turns after the land route is cut without the Germans ever having to cross the Volkhov...



cookie monster -> RE: How to judge a cut off cities supply lvl (3/27/2011 5:53:29 PM)

http://witewiki.com/index.php/Isolate_Leningrad



pompack -> RE: How to judge a cut off cities supply lvl (3/27/2011 5:58:02 PM)

CM:

I had not checked the wiki in several weeks. I have to say that it is a VERY impressive piece of work as it sits right now. And it seems to improve every day.[&o]



Pipewrench -> RE: How to judge a cut off cities supply lvl (3/27/2011 6:23:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PeeDeeAitch

Maybe something to disallow anyway. Isolating Leningrad would be far, far easier if those ports can be shut down remotely...it would potentially fall two turns after the land route is cut without the Germans ever having to cross the Volkhov...


hmmm, you don't think port strikes and AA create a extra layer of combat in the initial stages to take the city? lacing ports with 100's of AA in the hopes that heavy damage could be struck early against the Luftwaffe would be a AAR in-itself.

unless 600 guns only shoot down 2 JU-88's ;)



PeeDeeAitch -> RE: How to judge a cut off cities supply lvl (3/27/2011 6:53:57 PM)


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ORIGINAL: cookie monster

http://witewiki.com/index.php/Isolate_Leningrad

Cookie, you should add something about the "back door" to that page of the wiki as well - hex 83,16 just 1 east of Pavlovo, seizure of this allows the Axis to have an easy drive to get Osinovets and isolation of Leningrad. Q-Ball has done this maneuver twice now



pad152 -> RE: How to judge a cut off cities supply lvl (3/27/2011 10:17:25 PM)

Would be nice to have some view that would show you possible supply lines to/from a location, I took the port NE of  but, didn't know about the other two.




cookie monster -> RE: How to judge a cut off cities supply lvl (3/28/2011 12:52:00 AM)


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ORIGINAL: PeeDeeAitch


quote:

ORIGINAL: cookie monster

http://witewiki.com/index.php/Isolate_Leningrad

Cookie, you should add something about the "back door" to that page of the wiki as well - hex 83,16 just 1 east of Pavlovo, seizure of this allows the Axis to have an easy drive to get Osinovets and isolation of Leningrad. Q-Ball has done this maneuver twice now


That would seem like a ''Direct Assault'' and in my mind doesn't really qualify as an ''Isolation maneovre''.

The ''Right Hook'' is more of a mass encirclement,flank breach. It's not even close to assaulting Leningrad directly.



Pipewrench -> RE: How to judge a cut off cities supply lvl (3/28/2011 3:58:20 AM)

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ORIGINAL: pad152

Would be nice to have some view that would show you possible supply lines to/from a location, I took the port NE of  but, didn't know about the other two.


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