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E -> Chernobyl Revisited (3/29/2011 3:12:51 AM)

For those who haven't seen it, a photo essay on a motorcycle trip through the area...

http://www.kiddofspeed.com/chernobyl-land-of-the-wolves/author.html




sabre1 -> RE: Chernobyl Revisited (3/29/2011 3:50:24 AM)

Thanks E, absolutely fascinating.




bairdlander2 -> RE: Chernobyl Revisited (3/29/2011 4:04:08 AM)

The pic cleanup workers (Liquidators) going to the Chornobyl Plant is pretty scary.Wearing dust masks to go clean up radiation?




Raverdave -> RE: Chernobyl Revisited (3/29/2011 4:22:31 AM)

Wow.............and now Japan is facing something similar if not as bad.   Thank goodness we don't have atomic power stations here in Oz.




goodwoodrw -> RE: Chernobyl Revisited (3/29/2011 6:01:29 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Raverdave

Wow.............and now Japan is facing something similar if not as bad.   Thank goodness we don't have atomic power stations here in Oz.


Hey did you forget about Lucas Heights?




Hertston -> RE: Chernobyl Revisited (3/29/2011 12:17:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: bairdlander
The pic cleanup workers (Liquidators) going to the Chornobyl Plant is pretty scary.Wearing dust masks to go clean up radiation?


The whole thing was frightful. The first firefighters there didn't even know it was a 'nuclear' incident and were trying to put out a fire in the exposed reactor core with hoses in the usual fashion. Most were dead within a couple of months, some within a couple of days.

Then there were the 'biorobots'(they called themselves that). Assorted chunks of materials direct from the core explosion ended up on the roof, and with attempts at using remote-control robots to throw them back into the building failed they just used soldiers instead. "Strap on a gas mask and a lead plate, run like hell, pick up a chunk or two of lethally radioactive crap, carry it to the hole and chuck it back in. Then leg it back."

The biggest heroes, though, to my mind were the coal miners drafted in to dig a tunnel under the reactor, so that a barrier could inserted to prevent the molten contents of the core dropping down to the water table, which would have been absolutely catastrophic. These guys knew the risks (including that of a 'meltdown' landing on their heads), only had masks, and chose not to wear those as the heat was so intense they just couldn't work when doing so.








Cyber Me -> RE: Chernobyl Revisited (3/29/2011 1:36:51 PM)

Incredible story of incompetent management causing the disaster and brave workers facing the dangers and cleaning up the mess at such a high cost. Technology failures will always plague humans and the planet. I too are thankful that Australia doesn't use atomic power.




Jevhaddah -> RE: Chernobyl Revisited (3/29/2011 2:35:49 PM)

Radiation from Japan has been found in Glasgow... thats all we need radioactive Weeges [X(]


Cheers

Jev




E -> RE: Chernobyl Revisited (3/29/2011 2:41:23 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Cyber Me

I too are thankful that Australia doesn't use atomic power.

"I too are thankful?" Is that anything like "all your base are belong to us?"

...And yet they've been running a reactor since 1958 (ostensibly for research).




Hertston -> RE: Chernobyl Revisited (4/12/2011 9:42:49 AM)

I'll punt this just to point out that according to the BBC the Fukushima incident has now been upgraded (if that's the word) to the highest level, 7, on the nuclear incident scale. The only previous such incident was Chernobyl.

This seems very worrying as although they are saying radiation leakage is (it hasn't stopped yet, of course) was 'only' 10% of that from Chernobyl, even that figure is far higher than has been indicated previously. And, of course, Japan is far more densely populated than the equivalent area around Chernobyl. [:(]




Jeffrey H. -> RE: Chernobyl Revisited (4/12/2011 7:31:34 PM)

I think the radiation is more in the water and less in the air than Chernobyl was.

Was any of this really in doubt after we saw the lids blowing off the reactor buildings ?




htuna -> RE: Chernobyl Revisited (4/12/2011 11:20:06 PM)

Amazing stuff.. thanks for sharing..




Aurelian -> RE: Chernobyl Revisited (4/12/2011 11:43:46 PM)

http://www.uer.ca/forum_showthread_archive.asp?threadid=8951

http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/remark,11034749

http://www.bluecoatboy.co.uk/#/chernobyl/4518779222




RareGoldfish -> RE: Chernobyl Revisited (4/13/2011 4:58:33 PM)

I would just want to point out that she didn't actually ride her bike through the whole area. You can actually take tours and thats what she did and just brought her helmet with her. There some pictures that where shot outside the exclusion zone with her bike.




doomtrader -> RE: Chernobyl Revisited (4/13/2011 5:11:52 PM)

I've lurked this site couple of years ago when I was working on Fallout's Doomsday mod for HoI2.
It's one of the best with actual pictures of the 'modern' Chernobyl.




Fred98 -> RE: Chernobyl Revisited (4/14/2011 10:59:14 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BASB


quote:

ORIGINAL: Raverdave

Thank goodness we don't have atomic power stations here in Oz.


Hey did you forget about Lucas Heights?



Its not a power station.

Next time you get cancer and need radiation therapy, remember where the nuclear medicine came from.

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Fred98 -> RE: Chernobyl Revisited (4/14/2011 11:01:33 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Jeffrey H.

Was any of this really in doubt after we saw the lids blowing off the reactor buildings ?




No lids blew off "Reactor" buildings!

Steam built up and the tin shed could not handle the pressure.

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Jeffrey H. -> RE: Chernobyl Revisited (4/15/2011 4:44:14 AM)

Joe, the lid blew off the buildings. The buildings that housed the reactors were blown into the sky. You don't really know the status of the equiment in there.

"Tin sheds" are not designed to hold pressure. Explosions happen because pressure is released quickly. Think about that.




Hertston -> RE: Chernobyl Revisited (4/26/2011 4:34:28 AM)

Just a brief point to mention that today is the 25th anniversary of the Chernobyl accident.




ilovestrategy -> RE: Chernobyl Revisited (4/26/2011 3:35:21 PM)

25 years? Where did the time go? I actually had hair back then and was 50 lbs lighter! [:D]




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