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tedbert86 -> Supply and Invasion by Sea Questions (4/5/2011 1:28:03 AM)

I played a number of the individual island scenarios and thought I had a decent handle on how supply works. (I am one who really likes to devastate units by maneuver to cut off supply. ) I took the plunge into the Pacific Campaign and am experiencing some growing pains. It is my first time through with the whole Pacific Campaign so I do not mind losing as long as I learn. At the expense of pretty much the rest of the Pacific theater, I combined almost all my U.S. Naval forces in the Hawaiin Sea Zone to try to prevent invasion. Nevertheless Japan successfully did an amphibious assault on unoccupied hexes in Hawaaii. First question, how can I better protect against amphibious assault using my Naval Forces? Since the landing the Japanese units have been constantly supplied at level 20. I have taken pains to keep a large naval force in the Hawaiin Sea Zone and even tried putting forces into nearby sea zones to cut off their supplies. I look pretty much every turn at what Japanese ships are in the Hawaaiin sea zone and even on turns when there are none, the Japanese land units are still at 20 supply. Other times there may be one or two patrol groups that come in before I fight them off, and even then all the Japanese land units are still at 20 supply. From the manual I though patrol groups could only supply two supply points per patrol group and even that would be reduced by my U.S. groups in the sea zone. With the amount of ships I have in the Hawaaiin sea zone I just cannot understand how the Japanese land units can still be so well supplied (constant 20). I could understand from time to time them getting some minimal supply by "blockader runners" and even supply going down steadily rather than a complete drop, but I do not understand what is happening. As with many other things I figure there is something I am missing or doing wrong as the game seems to make sense in other aspects, even though sometimes I have to try a few different things to understand the gameplay properly, so I am thinking I am missing something on the gameplay here and would appreciate it if someone could walk me through how to do what I am trying to do (cut off sea supply by using a large naval force) and explain the rules better to me. I am really enjoying the game, this is just one hurdle I cannot seem to figure out on my own. Thanks for your help.

Best regards,
Ted




Max 86 -> RE: Supply and Invasion by Sea Questions (4/5/2011 4:29:31 PM)

I believe the troops in Hawaii are receiving supply from naval units in adjacent zones. The AI tends to move ships in and out according to some logic that escapes me. Stay with it and you will win.  I don't think supply drops to critical levels after one or two turns, it takes awhile.

Use land a/c to hit the enemy ships, then use all naval a/c from all CVs next. Upgrade infantry divs on Hawaii to corps and reinforce to full strength.  Also, each turn there is, IIRC, a 30% chance of enemy fleet detection so there is a chance that they are being re-supplied without you being able to intercept / detect. 

I am a new player too and am using the same approach, all naval assets grouped together in Hawaii to fight off the invasion attempt.  Don't be shy about using a/c against enemy naval targets as much as possible.  This becomes pretty costly for the Japanese after awhile and they will stop re-supplying eventually.  Then bomb the pi$$ out of the unsupplied land units and they will crumble pretty quick.




tedbert86 -> RE: Supply and Invasion by Sea Questions (4/6/2011 12:21:37 AM)

Max86 thanks




Razz1 -> RE: Supply and Invasion by Sea Questions (4/7/2011 6:13:57 PM)

It was changed in before release and the manual was not updated.

The AI has automatic supply from amphibious invasions. The human must use ships.


You can not prevent invasions. You can hope to intercept them. Then you need to combat them and hope you can sink some amphibious ships.

Up grade Pearl Harbor to a corps or build one and place it there.




ilovestrategy -> RE: Supply and Invasion by Sea Questions (4/8/2011 1:11:18 AM)

I lose Pearl everytime and take it back. I've yet been able to hold it. But the Nips do get taken out! [8D]




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