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jhowell -> Some Questions on Japanese Manpower (5/26/2011 5:48:53 PM)

First off, manpower is pooled, right? And it is used in the creation of new industry and for creating LCU's with men in them. Additionally it appears to be used for Japanese pilot training if the WitP Industry chart in tracker is correct.

So is manpower something that the Japanese will ever run out of? Is it a valid resource to invade certain areas for so that the local population can... volunteer to work for their liberators? And how can manpower be stockpiled if it represents people?



topeverest -> RE: Some Questions on Japanese Manpower (5/26/2011 11:34:35 PM)

IME, going after manpower is a loser, there is too much available. Concentrate on what you like that remains. There are good reasons to go after each. I prefer HI



erstad -> RE: Some Questions on Japanese Manpower (5/27/2011 12:32:06 AM)

My experience is that manpower is not a limiting factor.



Mynok -> RE: Some Questions on Japanese Manpower (5/27/2011 2:41:52 AM)


Definitely not. Not worth the effort.



Shellshock -> RE: Some Questions on Japanese Manpower (5/27/2011 4:05:59 AM)


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ORIGINAL: KiwVik
So is manpower something that the Japanese will ever run out of? Is it a valid resource to invade certain areas for so that the local population can... volunteer to work for their liberators? And how can manpower be stockpiled if it represents people?



Manpower is probably is the one area where Japan almost has parity with the US anyway.



inqistor -> RE: Some Questions on Japanese Manpower (5/28/2011 7:48:59 AM)

I have never seen any side be short on manpower.
Pooling probably represents trained replacements, or trained specialists.

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ORIGINAL: Shellshock


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ORIGINAL: KiwVik
So is manpower something that the Japanese will ever run out of? Is it a valid resource to invade certain areas for so that the local population can... volunteer to work for their liberators? And how can manpower be stockpiled if it represents people?



Manpower is probably is the one area where Japan almost has parity with the US anyway.


Actually USA had serious shortage of manpower in late 1944, Japan never had such issues. They crunched Divisions, like cold-war-era USSR nuclear-missilles. They created more Divisions, they actually could equip. If there was production-manpower shortage, there was always lots of Koreans/Chinese to "volunteer".



jhowell -> RE: Some Questions on Japanese Manpower (5/28/2011 9:14:45 AM)

So maybe the manpower that I gain from conquering the Philippines is sent back to the Home Islands where it frees up Japanese that might have otherwise had to work in the factories. These Japanese are then free to serve in LCU’s.

I still think it is weird that manpower is consumed to make new industries. What are we doing with the workers? Cementing them into the walls?

Can someone confirm if there is a once a month manpower charge to keep the Japanese pilot training program going?



Shellshock -> RE: Some Questions on Japanese Manpower (5/28/2011 10:05:41 AM)

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ORIGINAL: KiwVik

So maybe the manpower that I gain from conquering the Philippines is sent back to the Home Islands where it frees up Japanese that might have otherwise had to work in the factories. These Japanese are then free to serve in LCU’s.

I still think it is weird that manpower is consumed to make new industries. What are we doing with the workers? Cementing them into the walls?


Since manpower also represents your labor pool I assume your putting those workers to work. Not just using them as raw material to build a bigger factory.



jhowell -> RE: Some Questions on Japanese Manpower (5/28/2011 10:56:22 AM)

But when they work they are consumed...



Shellshock -> RE: Some Questions on Japanese Manpower (5/28/2011 3:10:41 PM)


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ORIGINAL: KiwVik

But when they work they are consumed...


Exactly. If you're riveting Zeros together at the night shift in the newly expanded Mitsubishi Plant, you're not exactly available to drive a tank or sling a rifle. Not without providing a replacement at least.



erstad -> RE: Some Questions on Japanese Manpower (5/28/2011 3:44:47 PM)

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Pooling probably represents trained replacements, or trained specialists.


Or it might just represent available men that could be called up out of the civilian economy when needed.



jhowell -> RE: Some Questions on Japanese Manpower (5/28/2011 4:34:31 PM)

That makes sense, so it is an abstract measure of both the number of men available to be enlisted in the army or airforce, and also the work they could do. Manpower can be stockpiled because this is representing people available to do work - the people you didn't commit to the infantry yesterday are now available to work in the factory today. Manpower is consumed when factories are built because people are assigned to these factories on a permenant basis.

Thanks for the help.



PaxMondo -> RE: Some Questions on Japanese Manpower (5/28/2011 11:38:20 PM)


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ORIGINAL: inqistor

If there was production-manpower shortage, there was always lots of Koreans/Chinese to "volunteer".

This has always been my understanding. IJ's wartime manpower shortage never approached anything like Germany experienced.



inqistor -> RE: Some Questions on Japanese Manpower (5/29/2011 10:45:12 AM)

Remember, that there are lots of services in the army.

Considering number of Koreans, who died on sunken transport ships, I would say, more than half "Engineers" in Japanese units, are non-Japanese.

Also, if you have some construction units in Philippines (or any conquered area), I bet, more than half of them will be hired local population.


Heck, in New Guinea, whole Allies foot-transport was done by locals.



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